Greetings,
Marsha:
I would concede that pure experience is synonymous with Dynamic Quality.
Value, the pragmatic test of truth, is also the primary empirical experience.
The Metaphysics of Quality says pure experience is value. Experience which is
not valued is not experienced. The two are
No idea who said it, but to be fair DMB that contradiction is the
standing problem with a discussion group whose subject is beyond words
- it's all about claims that transcend words - a tricky game..
Ian
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
Either
Hi Tuukka,
It may not be the type of reassurance you were looking for, but I value your
posting in this forum.
Marsha
On Mar 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Tuukka Virtaperko m...@tuukkavirtaperko.net
wrote:
Everyone,
I asked DMB, who on this mailing list does he like or consider a good
p.s. I value everyone's posts. Was it Nietzsche or Lisa Simpson who said
That which does not kill us makes us stronger.? And above all I value the
MoQ.
On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:03 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Tuukka,
It may not be the type of reassurance you were looking
Hi.
I really don´t understand why some people get so aggressive.
If you are participating to get enlightened, no one should disparage
anyone's opinion, even if it doenst' seem to be pertinent to the discussion
theme. In addition personal insults put you down,
Be in peace
Antonio Roberto
2012/3/25
dmb:
...experiences come whole, pervaded by unifying qualities that demarcate them
within the flux of our lives. If we want to find meaning, or the basis for meaning, we
must therefore start with the qualitative unity that Dewey describes. The demarcating
pervasive quality is, at first,
Hi Mark and All,
Imho Pirsig has provided the conception for that cypher DQ/SQ. DQ is the
indefinable emotional reality and SQ is defined intellectual reality.
Joe
On 3/25/12 6:11 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
The use of an appropriate cypher is required to decrypt
passages, which
Hi Carl,
Is free will an illusion? No. But if you want, you can choose to think
so.
Yours,
John
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Carl Thames ctha...@centurytel.net wrote:
Okay, one more time, only this time I'll actually include the link:
Hi Marsha and all,
Are human cognitive processes the only experience of structured reality or
can animal/human instincts process DQ?
Joe
On 3/25/12 9:40 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Craig,
On Mar 25, 2012, at 11:43 PM, craig...@comcast.net wrote:
[Craig, previously]
Can
Hi Joe,
No, not if you have a Heart.
Marsha
On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha and all,
Are human cognitive processes the only experience of structured reality or
can animal/human instincts process DQ?
Joe
On 3/25/12 9:40 PM,
Antonio, all,
I agree. There has been a lot of thoughtless bickering.
-Tuukka
26.3.2012 18:13, Antonio Roberto Maestrello wrote:
Hi.
I really don´t understand why some people get so aggressive.
If you are participating to get enlightened, no one should disparage
anyone's opinion, even if it
Hi Marsha
The heart is cognitive. It is indefinable in that capability of processing
DQ instinct along with its definable pumping blood function? I would guess
flight or fight behavior indicates something indefinable is recognized.
Joe
On 3/26/12 11:51 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Mark,
Huh?
Hi Tuukka,
I would use the term anthropocentric. This means that the way we
see things is the way they must be. While this can be seen as
completely true, sometimes it is taken too far in my opinion.
Mark
My ears always perk up at the term because my philosophical mentor,
Hi John,
Yes, I agree. Quality for an electron may be different than human quality.
I simply was giving Tuukka another word for what he was presenting since he
requested an alternative term. Re-read his post that I was responding to and
you may understand why I suggested the word
Hi Joe,
What I meant by cypher was an algorithm which can be used to decipher Lila.
Mathematics and language are one and the same. Plenty has been written on this
and it is one of the foundations of Kabbalah. Look it up if you are
interested. It is just a different approach to MoQ.
Sent
Mark Smith stated, yesterday and today:
What I meant by cypher was an algorithm which can be used to decipher Lila.
Mathematics and language are one and the same... The use of an appropriate
cypher is required to decrypt passages, which is the difficult part (and has
occupied me for
Ian, all,
I posted my letter to Robert Pirsig here about an hour ago for
evaluation and a second opinion. I wanted to make sure I express myself
clearly in that letter. Unfortunately, for some reason, the letter
didn't come through. In the meantime, you can read the letter here:
All,
I'm wondering whether this letter makes sense. A bunch of second
opinions would be useful. I cross-posted this to LS. No reason to
exclude them from this discussion. This is not a letter to Pirsig from
MD - it is a letter to Pirsig from me, and I'm active in both groups.
For those
All,
apparently the letter came through almost instantly after I posted a
notification that it didn't. I did not intend to confuse you.
-Tuukka
27.3.2012 4:10, Tuukka Virtaperko wrote:
Ian, all,
I posted my letter to Robert Pirsig here about an hour ago for
evaluation and a second
Aha, I see. Foiled by my own predilictions again. :-). Thanks Mark for
clarifying.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 26, 2012, at 3:49 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
Yes, I agree. Quality for an electron may be different than human quality.
I simply was giving Tuukka another
Hi Ant,
Thank you for your interest. I have joined company with another better versed
than I at this. There are so many ways to go about this. I will start to let
some stuff dribble out as it takes better form. I do not want to sound too
idiotic (although I may often give the appearance to
Why does Lila need it? : )
In unrelated news, I once had a dream intuition that the Riemann Hypothesis
could be solved cryptographically: by treating the known zeroes as data
points relative to the natural numbers. Beats me if it would work, but it
came with some great imagery: the Riemann
Hi MRB,
I suppose it does not need it.
One way of seeing this form of manipulation is as an inroad to the
subconscious. When we read passages, there is a brief moment when the words
enter our minds, before we reassemble the words into our intellectual static
understanding. That is words have
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