[MD] static patterns of value

2013-09-21 Thread Andre Broersen
Marsha to dmb: Try to present an actual argument and present actual evidence to support your claim. Where are the actual quotes made by me that put me in the category of a nihilistic relativism or a solipsistic subjectivism? Andre: By your insistence that all is emptiness (a la Nagarjuna).

[MD] Fwd: Re: DQ is neither this nor that?

2013-09-21 Thread David Morey
I mean sigh not sign by the way, also, if you actually provide some good reasons I am happy to listen, if they are good reasons I am open to persuasion and can change my mind, this is what I mean by intellectual integrity, also yes your quotes hint that Pirsig agrees with you, but they

Re: [MD] static patterns of value

2013-09-21 Thread David Thomas
On 9/21/13 4:46 AM, Andre Broersen andrebroer...@gmail.com wrote: Andre: By your insistence that all is emptiness (a la Nagarjuna). You use this to dismiss any attempt to correct your confused understanding of Pirsig's MoQ. Secondly, you use your own experience to dismiss any attempt at

Re: [MD] static patterns of value

2013-09-21 Thread david buchanan
Marsha to dmb: ...Where are the actual quotes made by me that put me in the category of a nihilistic relativism or a solipsistic subjectivism? Andre replied: By your insistence that all is emptiness (a la Nagarjuna). You use this to dismiss any attempt to correct your confused understanding

Re: [MD] static patterns of value

2013-09-21 Thread david buchanan
Andre said to Marsha: By your insistence that all is emptiness (a la Nagarjuna). You use this to dismiss any attempt to correct your confused understanding of Pirsig's MoQ. Secondly, you use your own experience to dismiss any attempt at correcting your confused understanding of Pirsig's MoQ.

Re: [MD] static patterns of value

2013-09-21 Thread Joseph Maurer
Hi David B and All, Logos Logic. The unchangeable changeable! Logos is determined by definition! Logic evolves creating new definitions SOM, DQ/SQ! Joe On 9/21/13 12:25 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: To say that static patterns are ever-changing is like saying our

Re: [MD] DQ is neither this nor that?

2013-09-21 Thread MarshaV
dmb, Hahaha!!! You do test my patience. :-)Luckily I understand you to be a flow of bits and pieces of ever-changing, conditionally co-dependent and impermanent static patterns: inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual patterns of value flowing within