Re: [MD] Free speech

2009-06-11 Thread X Acto
python skit in the life of brian when they were stoning that guy for speaking the name of jehova. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm2BsjACkuI   From: X Acto xa...@rocketmail.com To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:28:36 PM Subject: [MD

Re: [MD] Free speech

2009-06-11 Thread plattholden
Ron, I think we're much closer to agreement about free speech than we are apart. We agree it does not include the right to incite a riot by yelling fire in a crowded theater or incite a mob to lynch a suspected horse thief or rapist. My position is simply that hate speech laws are open to wide

Re: [MD] Free speech

2009-06-11 Thread John Carl
Interesting right now with a holocaust denier so much in the news... What it has led me to wonder is the proper role of ostracism. If we deny the hater his speech, isn't that just more likely to force him into action? Since this thread began with Nick, it's relevant to wonder if we don't

Re: [MD] Free speech

2009-06-11 Thread david buchanan
Platt said to Ron:Once liberty is lost it is almost impossible to get back, and perhaps our most precious liberty is to speak openly without fear of reprisal. dmb says:I guess it depends on what you mean by reprisal. If it means violence or some kind of revenge, especially by the

Re: [MD] Free speech

2009-06-11 Thread John Carl
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:54 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.comwrote:\ I'm very much in favor of reprisals. Reprisals are what keep us honest. David, the most appropriate reprisal is social rejection. If the tribe rejects you, then to a degree your existence diminishes and you possess

Re: [MD] Free Speech

2008-03-14 Thread pholden
Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Speaking of American being the land of free speech... I learned today that New Model Army (a British alt-punk band), a favorite of mine for years, were denied visas to perform on the 2007 world tour for having a song on their album critical of

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