I hope that I am welcome to participate in the
discussion of the past several days.
Having particularly enjoyed elephant's monosyllabic
response to the Zen Koan, I was reminded of Alan Watts' relating a version of
this Koan in a lecture, many years ago. InMr. Watts' version, the Master
Hi Marty!
I read in your post that you are re-reading LILA, and you had mentioned that
you found it "darker, with an almost depressing tone." LILA was one of those
books that literally blew my mind when I read it, and I haven't seen the
world in anything near the same way since. One of the
if driven from a pure quest for quality, will
always be moral (well, there's that circular thinking creeping in again) and for
which codes are unnecessary!
Thanks to all for the opportunity to share these
thoughts.
Thracian Bard
is the one that is neither comfortable nor
painful (a dichotomy) but rather a constant combination of both (holistic
realization or mindfulness).
Again, Bravo!
Thracian Bard
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Subje
ithesis to discover
a greater Truth than the sum of the parts.
Thracian Bard
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THRACIAN IMPRECISELY SPECULATE
constantly changing. What
is important on these true roads is the experience, never the
destination.
Thracian Bard
reader the error of
it.
Note:
Granted, these theses require some reading between
the lines, but my experience has been that withall great literature, as in
Zen philosophy, it is the space between the lines that defines the
words.
Thracian Bard
, a doorway to the
"Collective Unconscious." For others, it is the embodiment of the Tao.
Thracian Bard
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elephant wrote
Elephant,
Your postings always challenge me to open my mind
to try to see other's perspectives more clearly as did your latest one to Platt
in which you stated:
"It certainly isn't higher quality to
remove an "as if" which belongs there.I never saw an actor, however
high-quality his
Dear Jeremy Guy,
Excellent pair of posts! You've gotten right to the heart of the matter!
The Bard
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From:
Dear fellow colleagues,
Jeremy Guy asks:
Would anyone agree we are clinging to
old values because we are afraid ofthe full implications of the Quality
interpretation of reality.
I would, without a doubt, agree. I've
experiencedthis clinging, and I see it every day in others. We have been
atoms" included). The only problem is that we humans are not aware of it.
Now there's a paradox!
The Bard
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Thracian Bard wrote:
I
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Dea
Dear Elephant,
I know that this is off the point, but a comment of
yours perplexes me.
Elephant: ...so we'd
face some pretty vexing (and ridiculous) questionsabout where the souls and
bodies of the actors go off to, when Hamlet comesinto being and the actors
disappear...
Since laboratory
Dear Elephant, I must commend you on a truly clever
response. As I write this I will try to avoid the various logic traps planted
therein, but I fear that I may fall into one. Well, here goes;
Elephant writes:
Bard. About those ancient
traditions. The greeks were a diverse andinventive
Dear Elephant,
I am still considering the many thought-provoking comments from your post of
April 10th, and reassessing my views, as a result. Your absence from the
Group during your abbreviated sabbatical will be sorely felt. Wishing you
the best during your time away.
The Bard
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This brings me to the crux of this post.
It seems that while their are many types of dynamics at work in the
universe, the only ones that are truly "
Dear Clarke,
In response to your enquiry regarding the term
Hellenistic, my understanding is that the term was coined circa 1600-1700 AD
using the root Hellene, which I believe is adapted from a Greek word which
essentially meant "a Greek". Hellenistic refers to the time period succeeding
Dear Colleagues,
I hope that I am welcome to join the thread. I was drawn in as I was reading
the various interpretations of enlightenment inherent in this discussion of
consciousness/awareness. In my study of Zen Buddhism, it appears that
enlightenment is never a state of consciousness or a
Dear Colleagues,
ZEN7...'s
Writes:
I can see that you are only
speculating on what it might be like to be enlightened; and anyway, Buddhas
aren't supposed to brag.
In response, allow me to offer another
theory:
The fact that Bodhisattvas do not choose
to define "enlightenment"may be
Dear Elephant,
Great Post! You expressed it beautifully. I especially liked the poetry
analogy!!
The Bard
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growing to fill up threads, but I think now we return this thread to
Thracian Bard; that is, give up or move elsewhere :)
Andrea
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Dear Colleagues,
Rog writes:
Seek not that which is
comfortable, but that which is best, and be aware that that which is best is
itself dynamic.
I believe that this is one of the most important
lessons in the study of MoQ. Allow me to further elaborateby saying that
when we cease to think
Dear Colleagues,
Gerhard Wrote: ...What kind of
value has money / economics? I think I would say that money has a social value,
and should be regarded as a method for the society to function and has noting to
do with a intelectual level of quality.
In response, I would progress one step
Dear David,
Your post addresses a very important distinction between Western and Eastern
approaches to enlightenment (i.e.the conflict between allopathic and
holistic theory). The use of chemical agents to essentially tranquilize the
ego in order to remove the filters that it produces so that
Dear Rasheed,
I am excited to find some of my fellow colleagues in the study of the MOQ,
also drawn to the I Ching. As library material the I Ching can seem quite
vague and not particularly viable. The reason seems to be that the I Ching
is a dynamic and living text which lies dormant like the
Dear Rasheed,
My apologies for not elaborating on the use of yarrow stalks and cyclical
reading.
Yarrow stalks are the stalks of the herb, yarrow which the traditional
Taoist masters would grow as part of their apothecary. The stalks are cut
and rubbed smooth at lengths of between 8 and 14
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