Re: [MORPHMET] Geometric Morphometric variables used as traits

2017-11-06 Thread Antigoni Kaliontzopoulou
Hi Jonathan,

there is a multivariate estimate for phylogenetic signal, with the
corresponding significance testing, were you can test for phylogenetic
signal in shape as a multidimensional trait. The method is described in Adams,
D.C. 2014. A generalized K statistic for estimating phylogenetic signal
from shape and other high-dimensional multivariate data. *Systematic
Biology*. 63:685-697, and implemented in the function physignal of geomorph
R package.

All the best,
Antigoni

On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Miller 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I´d like to ask you if any of you could suggest me some geometric
> morfometric variables that could be used as traits for a phylogenetic
> signal test. Up to now I have taken only the PC1 and PC2 from a PCA after
> doing the nomal treatment to the landmarks sets... After that I also used
> as trait the centroid size, but is it there any other variable that could
> be informative about the sape that I can also use??? I´m working with
> snails and a set of 24 landmarks and semilandmarks in around 20 samples per
> species...and 20 species...and the question I want to solve is if the
> shell shape in the phylogeny is distributed randomly or follows some
> pattern...
>
> If anybody could suggest me something will be great!
>
> Thank you all in advance!!!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan
>
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[MORPHMET] Geometric Morphometric variables used as traits

2017-11-06 Thread Jonathan Miller
Dear all,

I´d like to ask you if any of you could suggest me some geometric 
morfometric variables that could be used as traits for a phylogenetic 
signal test. Up to now I have taken only the PC1 and PC2 from a PCA after 
doing the nomal treatment to the landmarks sets... After that I also used 
as trait the centroid size, but is it there any other variable that could 
be informative about the sape that I can also use??? I´m working with 
snails and a set of 24 landmarks and semilandmarks in around 20 samples per 
species...and 20 species...and the question I want to solve is if the  
shell shape in the phylogeny is distributed randomly or follows some 
pattern... 

If anybody could suggest me something will be great!

Thank you all in advance!!!

Best wishes,

Jonathan

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