Interesting fishing attempt that fails with Mozilla mail

2005-09-23 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
I just received an obvious fishing message that was directing me to https://signin.ebay.com. It looked really interesting, fishing using an https site rings a bell, but this was the real ebay login site (I had a doubt at first, was that the comeback of some i18n trick ?), so I really wondered

Re: Multitab vs. unique session id

2005-08-17 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
RML wrote: Yes, IE gives me 2 session id's. That what I expected to get on a multi-tab browser too. Are you *sure* of that ? If you click twice on the blue e, you'll get two instances of the application, and then two different session id. But if you get a new windows of the same instance

Re: Some of the help on offer...

2005-06-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Gervase Markham wrote: I don't care if the petnames toolbar was proposed by your grandmother, the man in the moon or Bruce Schneier. It will be evaluated in exactly the same way. What's more I see no connexion with the page Ian referenced (Application and not only user level rights

Re: Revoking the Root

2005-05-24 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Julien Pierre wrote: I'm saying the standard defines no way to revoke a lost CA root, because it doesn't make sense. When a root is compromised, there is no PKI standard that can fix this. To be precise, the standard says that path validation begins with a trust anchor, and that the trust

Re: Revoking the Root

2005-05-24 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ian G wrote: So if one wanted to follow the standard one could create two keys, Alice and Bob, and have Alice sign Bob's PK. Bob then becomes the root and is used to sign all lower level public keys. Alice is the trust anchor. Then, store Alice and Bob together, and if they ever get

Re: Allow/Disallow Java applets per site

2005-05-14 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Fabrizio Marana wrote: 1.0.4 is the proof I needed to escalate this again. [...] So again: per site java plug-ins/applets control would make FireFox more secure... There is *no* connexion between the very serious problems that were fixed in 1.0.4 and java/applet. Honestly I was tempted to stop

Extensions as a security risk [Re: More Phishing scams, still no SSL being used...]

2005-05-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Peter Gutmann wrote: [...]. The problem with ActiveX controls isn't (apart from one or two proof-of-concept ones) someone creating a malicious signed control (or FF plugin, or whatever). Really ? Why is there a product dedicated to avoiding them, then ?

Re: Improving Authentication on the Internet

2005-05-10 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Gervase Markham wrote: As an example (and I don't know of anyone who is actually suggesting this), what if we made all CAs who issued non-zero accountability certs post a $1,000,000 bond against losses from phishing attacks performed using their certs? Would you consider that a lockout measure?

Re: Allow/Disallow Java applets per site

2005-05-09 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: There's a common comment that it's a good thing that FF only has one security zone, which removes the risk of priveledge escalation attacks. I couldn't help thinking today that Firefox in fact indeed has two security zone, and that the recent problems are privilege

Re: Allow/Disallow Java applets per site

2005-05-08 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Daniel Veditz wrote: Absolutely not true, there is a version of the ByteVerify Java attack that affects Sun's JRE 1.4.2_05 and older -- and Firefox users can be infected. If you have this older JRE then it's most definitely NOT harmless. Dan, what do you refer to exactly ? I've seen some

Re: uri.schemeIs as blocker

2005-04-15 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Michael Krax wrote: [...] It seems this function gets used to implement blocker conditions in the code, to prevent that a malicious uri (e.g. javascript) gets used in a piece of code with chrome priviliges: if (uri.schemeIs(javascript)) return The problem that i see is, that if ever an

Re: Two downbeat articles on browser security

2005-04-13 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ian G wrote: http://www.ebcvg.com/articles.php?id=673 Mozilla: The Honeymoon is over Well, this time it's the analysis by the expert who's selling antivirus/http filters. Unfortunately, many will fail to his incredibly specious assessments about the recent vulnerabilities in Mozilla without

Re: Remote Controlling A C++ XPCOM Component In A Signed JavaScript Page In a HttpS WebSite

2005-04-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Vincent THOREL wrote: I have written a XPCOM C++ Components. [...] It work in signed JAR and requested privilege(UniversalXPConnect) is accepted from remote host because it is signed. But the problem is, I want to use this component into a HTTPS page. And when I run this page, i got in

Re: Low security SSL sites

2005-04-04 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Doug Wright wrote: Gerv suggested I post this here for discussion - copied from bug 288693 When visiting 'secure' sites that use outdated encryption, Firefox/Thunderbird should give a big ugly warning about the dangers of submitting information to this site. [...] My personal preference would

Re: about bug 286107 : Remember visited SSL details and warn when changes, like SSH

2005-03-15 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
, as I'm from tomorrow in holiday for two weeks with little/none internet access. Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: I have some comments about this request, but I'm not sure inside the bug is the best place. Anyway the bug is about implementing some things that have been discussed here recently

Re: Strawman proposal for SSL UI changes

2005-03-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Frank Hecker wrote: That pretty much completes my night-time excursion into the wonderful world of Firefox security UI discussions. Feel free to flame away. A few days ago, I reached pretty similar ideas as a conclusion of the recent debatting, reinforced by remembering how valid the old SSL

Re: Error Code: -8075

2005-03-10 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Nelson Bolyard wrote: I'll bet the error message you get contains more than just that number. Does it contain much more than : couldn't establish a secure connection to xxx error code -8075 ? (at least this message use the correct format for the error, it's better than 'error e00b' when it

Re: New EU requirement to display monetary limits for SSL pages

2005-02-28 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ian G wrote: [...] OK, that's good to know that there is no number involved. That just leaves us with determining what information *is* in this cert, and how it is that it needs to be presented to the user, and what the legal and contractual ramifications of all this information is. We should

Re: Long Term IDN/punycode spoofing strategy concept

2005-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Gervase Markham wrote: - The text used to explain the feature isn't at all clear to average users. What is an encrypted security key? What does it mean if it's missing? The message bar doesn't say. +1 I thought it would be *really* obscure for the average user.

Re: New EU requirement to display monetary limits for SSL pages

2005-02-25 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ian G wrote: [...] So the task for the Euro cert in question [...] [...] What planet are these guys on? What are we supposed to do, run it through a web translation engine? It certainly opens a can of worms. I asked around for any experience of these things, but got no answers on the

Re: Domain spoofing (and a personal greeting)

2005-02-23 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ka-Ping Yee wrote: I came to this list after hearing about the widely publicized IDN spoofing attack on Firefox. [...] So, what happened? Yee, what you see as a list is primarily a newsgroup 'netscape.public.mozilla.security' on which it's easy to get all the old messages, and it would be very

Re: TrustBar is too late, Amazon.com is for sale

2005-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Julien Pierre wrote: Ian G wrote: LOL... Amazon.com domain for sale :) I couldn't resist taking screenshots of how this hack looks in Mozilla under Solaris. That's certainly distinctive ! Add Microsoft to the *guilty* list. The reused the same glyph for cyrillic caracters as for latin one. The

Re: security alert from Pandasoftware

2005-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Chagi wrote: They can be exploited by remote users to carry out diverse actions on systems, such as uploading malicious software The first case should be exploited by remote users to push the user to put malicious software on his computer while thinking it is not executable content. All three

Re: Optional SSL Client Authentication

2004-12-17 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Nebergall, Christopher a écrit : If Optional Client Authentication is specified should /does Mozilla prompt the user for th eir PIN to access the i r certificates? Yes, it will prompt. And if the user clicks cancel, it will just connect without authentification which you should be able to

Re: 2005 - The Year of the Snail

2004-12-13 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Duane a écrit : [...] I've been shoving people onto ubuntu [...] It's the second time in a short interval I read a recommendation of Ubuntu as a No worries, everything just works linux distribution. ___ Mozilla-security mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SHA1 within a firebird extension

2004-10-06 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Ian Grigg wrote: Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote: He does not compute the SHA1/MD5, he returns the cert.sha1Fingerprint, cert.md5Fingerprint value from a nsIX509Cert object he gets back from nsISSLStatus status. Darn. One supposes that this is authoritive, in that NSS will also If you don't trust

Re: More info on You cannot connect to x.y.z because SSL is disabled

2004-08-26 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
$Bill wrote: This are the messages I get when tryin to go to a secure site : You cannot connect to x.y.z because SSL is disabled Could not initialize the browser's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory. [...] There is over 100MB of

Re: fewer virus, etc. attacks with Mozilla ?

2004-06-16 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Michael Lefevre wrote: On 2004-06-11, Jean-Marc Desperrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As 1.4.1 is it's most recent version publicly available [snip] Actually it's not - 1.4.2 was released a few weeks ago, and binaries are available. Mozilla.org didn't make a big announcement because it's

Re: Mozilla targeted malware in the wild

2004-04-08 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Daniel Veditz wrote: Ben and I, in person. Actually the argument's pretty much over, there's not much point in doing the work if the default (which 99% don't change) is to work the same way as today. I don't know about FireFox GUI, but please, please, if you do it as white list, *don't* add

Re: Mozilla targeted malware in the wild

2004-04-06 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Daniel Veditz wrote: (I'm serious, by the way: we're most likely turning off XPInstall by default for most sites for Firefox 1.0) It does make more sense to sign XP package. Site-level restriction is a problem for load repartition (isn't mozdev strongly overloaded ?), and make the consequence of

Re: Importing certificate

2004-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Robert Irving wrote: I am trying to import a .cer security certificate, but I keep getting asked for a password and then getting the error message: [...] So far as I know, there is no password for this, [...] I'll fully agree with that :-) Any help? First the correct group for certificate related

Re: Firebird/Thunderbird and PKCS#11

2003-08-25 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Julien Pierre wrote: [NSS DB access not multi-process safe] Solving this problem involves using a new database format. The NSS team researched the issue of licensing other database code that didn't suffer from the single-process limitation, but none was found that would satisfy all licensing

Re: How to configure OCSP?

2002-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
Julien Pierre wrote: No. There was a code-freeze for mozilla 1.1a, and the checkin of this fix also had to be delayed until after the 1.1alpha was built. So you need a recent nightly build to get this fix (last night would have it for sure). If this still does not fix your problem, please

Re: CN component SubjectAltName Extension of the

2002-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
dhiva wrote: I have a Cert with CN as host name and multiple host name listed on SubjectAltName extension, but i am getting Domain name mismatch warning ? I'm sorry, but I've never heard of this way of using SubjectAltName for server certificates being normalized anywhere. Can you supply

Re: How to configure OCSP?

2002-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier
I need to test with a recent build, but while I have been since a long time been able to successfully validate web site with OCSP, despite often hitting bug 141256 (the lines Kai quoted when opening 141256 were my analyse of this problem), I have never been able to validate mail