Re: new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-07-04 Thread Gervase Markham
Amir Herzberg wrote: I wonder: was the mere fact of you meeting with them a secret? If so, did you get permission to disclose this secret (was it declassified)? The existence of the meeting was not a secret. http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/008126.html It must have been `top

Re: new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-06-29 Thread Amir Herzberg
Doug Ludy wrote: I am a newcomer who knows a little bit about group process. It has been fascinating to watch this newsgroup at work--brilliant minds and powerful egos working toward similar goals. I am reminded of a debate in the English parliament. Rather than viewing the current impasse

Re: new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-06-29 Thread Amir Herzberg
Gervase Markham wrote: Amir Herzberg wrote: It is not an issue of fairness, it is an issue of open process. I am indeed disappointed to find that Mozilla is not acting openly. As a believer in open process, I am concerned that the result may be suboptimal. I would like the process to be

Re: new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-06-29 Thread Gervase Markham
Duane wrote: But how can you trust a process going on behind closed door and excluding everyone else? We're not developing security protocols, we're developing best practices and UI. And I am very strongly of the opinion that there needs to be a public review process, and have made that

new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-06-28 Thread Amir Herzberg
Gervase Markham wrote: Ian Grigg wrote: This is clearly not the case - in partnership with the other browser vendors, we are together working out the most appropriate UI and then all implementing it. That's fine, but of course not currently an open process. Duane kindly setup an open

Re: new anti-fraud mailing list for discussing improving browser security UI

2005-06-28 Thread Doug Ludy
Gervase Markham wrote: Amir Herzberg wrote: It is not an issue of fairness, it is an issue of open process. I am indeed disappointed to find that Mozilla is not acting openly. As a believer in open process, I am concerned that the result may be suboptimal. I would like the process to be