Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread Eric Howgate
- Original Message - From: Keeshond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders Which do you consider to be the best decoder ? I have convinced myself that Winamp 2.22 sounds better than later versions -

[MP3 ENCODER] test sample

2000-08-17 Thread Pierre Hugonnet
Hello, I have a interesting (I think) test sample (.wav ~1.6MB), which consists mainly of cymbal hits, with some drums and bass. The problem here is the the cymbal hits. Small reports using lame 3.70 (the last stable release) and 3.85b (last beta?) is below. However: the CBR result was better

RE: [MP3 ENCODER] Multi PCM file coding and decoding

2000-08-17 Thread David Brown
| I don't think disk space is a problem these days. | The (big) advantage of one large mp3file containing the entire album (like | AiD suggests) is that players like winamp don't delay playback when a track | ends and another begins. When using seperate files, Winamp checks playtime, | ID3-TAG

[MP3 ENCODER] joint-stereo and 3d-suround

2000-08-17 Thread Jack Davis
Someone told me, that using -mj will destroy 3d-suround information. It is caused due switching from m/s to stereo and back. Using -mf will solves this problem, because it will not switch between the modes. In the past, i thought only fraunhofers joint-stereo has a similar problem (phase lost

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread Ross Levis
I tried the in_mpg123 Winamp plug-in for my FM radio station a few weeks ago but I had to switch back to nitrane. If it finds a non-existing file in the playlist it just stops playing -- doesn't advance to the next song. I occasionally have this problem so I can't use it. I e-mailed Shibath

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Multi PCM file coding and decoding

2000-08-17 Thread Ivo
This gap is a pain in the arse and is THE thing I hate most about MP3. When this problem has been sorted in LAME i will be happy. Personnaly i feel a 'fix' to this problem is long overdue. Haven't made a study of the subject, but surely there is a purpose to this gap, other than that the

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread David Starks-Browning
On Thursday 17 Aug 00, Ross Levis writes: I tried the in_mpg123 Winamp plug-in for my FM radio station a few weeks ago but I had to switch back to nitrane. I read on the in_mpg123 web page that it doesn't support streaming. Could this be your problem? (I haven't tried it myself, based on this

Sv: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread Peter Olufsen
Another problem in in_mpg123 is that in some files it gives a high "click" in the beginning. This problem is in mpglib, it also appears in .wav-files decoded with lame --decode (I think that Shibath has found the error, but it's still there in 3.86). So instead i have renamed the in_mp3.dll

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] test sample

2000-08-17 Thread Zia Mazhar
Symbals are probably the instrument that is most difficult to encode correctly! Pierre Hugonnet wrote: Hello, I have a interesting (I think) test sample (.wav ~1.6MB), which consists mainly of cymbal hits, with some drums and bass. The problem here is the the cymbal hits. Small reports

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread Naoki Shibata
David I read on the in_mpg123 web page that it doesn't support streaming. David Could this be your problem? David David (I haven't tried it myself, based on this information. My personal David "jukebox" is a streaming httpd server.) Sorry, I'm very busy now and can't make new version of

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] test sample

2000-08-17 Thread Pierre Hugonnet
Since I've seen that the last beta was 3.86b, I tested it on the same sample. The improvement over 3.85b is significant, and now I can ear almost no artefact but on CBR 128 and below: lame 3.86b (--lowpass 15 for all VBRs) CBR 96 horrible/artefacts CBR 128 acceptable/slight

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] The best decoders

2000-08-17 Thread Keeshond
Sorry, I'm very busy now and can't make new version of in_mpg123. Perhaps I'll be freed by the weekend after next. Well, sorry, Mr.Shibata. Actually, before their summer vacations, some people still have to work like slaves in Japan...sort of a traditional ritual at this season. And, he

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Optimization

2000-08-17 Thread Segher Boessenkool
i mean in terms of speed like using faster algo like Lee's IDCT for faster implementation. rgds soyeb Ok. Yes, been there, done that. The 32 point dct II, as well as the 18 point dct IV. Both with a Lee -like algorithm. Works like a charm :-) The slowest part is the polyphase windowing, and

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Optimization

2000-08-17 Thread Soyeb
You can use NamLing's algorithm for that instead og 512 mul for each iteration it will take 256 + 32 mul, i am not able to figure out how to implement recursive formulla. The Namling's paper is available at "Two polyphase filter architecture for MPEG audio",Namling,Shih, IEEE trans. speech and

Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] MPEG audio decoder compliance

2000-08-17 Thread Roel VdB
Hello Rob, Thursday, August 17, 2000, 12:54:08 AM, you wrote: RL If you can point me to a specific implementation I can try to test it RL directly. The only requirement I have is that the implementation support some RL way of saving the decoded output to a file (e.g. WAV). Would be great:

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Optimization

2000-08-17 Thread Segher Boessenkool
You can use NamLing's algorithm for that instead og 512 mul for each iteration it will take 256 + 32 mul, i am not able to figure out how to implement recursive formulla. The Namling's paper is available at "Two polyphase filter architecture for MPEG audio",Namling,Shih, IEEE trans.

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mpglib layer I/II decoding

2000-08-17 Thread Robert Hegemann
Hi all! Albert Faber schrieb am Don, 17 Aug 2000: Yesterday, I made the modification/additions in order to support layer I/II decoding. However, since my linux environment is not running correctly right now (and since I'm always scary to change things without testing them) I did not made the

Re: Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] MPEG audio decoder compliance

2000-08-17 Thread Gabriel Bouvigne
RL If you can point me to a specific implementation I can try to test it RL directly. The only requirement I have is that the implementation support some RL way of saving the decoded output to a file (e.g. WAV). Would be great: http://www.daansystems.com/coolplayer It's useless as this

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mpglib layer I/II decoding

2000-08-17 Thread Robert Hegemann
Hi all! I just updated the Makefiles and tested LAME's new decoding capabilities with some toolame-02h generated MP2s. I did not find the time to do the same with mp[1g] files yet, maybe later. OK, I found the time, but with LayerI there seems to be a problem:

[MP3 ENCODER] XingMP3 Encoder for Linux

2000-08-17 Thread DataFlow
From Xing dev-site: http://www.xingtech.com/support/extest/ External Testers External Testers have access to pre-release versions of Xing Products. At this time, there are no active public beta test programs. However, we are currently soliciting for qualified testers for our forthcoming release

[MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files

2000-08-17 Thread Sterling Windmill
Anyone know of any utilities that will convert an mp3 into an mp3 compressed wav file? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Multi PCM file coding and decoding

2000-08-17 Thread Frank Klemm
:: This gap is a pain in the arse and is THE thing I hate most about MP3. When :: this problem has been sorted in LAME i will be happy. Personnaly i feel a :: 'fix' to this problem is long overdue. :: :: Haven't made a study of the subject, but surely there is a purpose to this gap, ::

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] CRC on MP3

2000-08-17 Thread Steve Lhomme
Thanx very much ! That was the kind of info I was looking for. Even the ISO spec are available :) (not sure if it's their initial form) And sadly it seems that the CRC is much more complicated than I thought (just scanning a part of the header and the whole audio encoding). - Original

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files

2000-08-17 Thread Steve Lhomme
It's called Rename (dev code is F2) on Windows. You just rename your mp3 files with a wav extension. - Original Message - From: "Sterling Windmill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: [MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files Anyone

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Multi PCM file coding and decoding

2000-08-17 Thread Mathew Hendry
From: "DataFlow" [EMAIL PROTECTED] then why do all encoders add this gap? anyone knows this? Check the archives of the list: Mark Taylor wrote quite a lengthy explanation a while back. Maybe it's on the web site too. IIRC, the delay at the beginning can be removed, but would result in

Re[4]: [MP3 ENCODER] MPEG audio decoder compliance

2000-08-17 Thread Roel VdB
Hello Gabriel, Thursday, August 17, 2000, 5:59:46 PM, you wrote: RL If you can point me to a specific implementation I can try to test it RL directly. The only requirement I have is that the implementation GB support some RL way of saving the decoded output to a file (e.g. WAV). Would be

[MP3 ENCODER] Xing header problem

2000-08-17 Thread Bill Currie
I've been having problems with lame `randomly' writing `incorrect' Xing headers. I finally figured out that it's not random (it's my fault) and lame isn't writing incorrect Xing info, but no info at all. What's been going on? I start up lame lame -k -v -V 0 -b 160 -B 320 foo.wav foo.mp3 and

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files

2000-08-17 Thread Sterling Windmill
I realize that it will play if renamed, but I need an actual wav header to be present, I know these utilities exist, I just can't seem to find one. From: "Steve Lhomme" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files Date:

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] mp3 compressed wav files

2000-08-17 Thread Robert Hegemann
Sterling Windmill schrieb am Don, 17 Aug 2000: I realize that it will play if renamed, but I need an actual wav header to be present, I know these utilities exist, I just can't seem to find one. You may look at dailymp3.com ? Ciao Robert -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list (

Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Xing header problem

2000-08-17 Thread Robert Hegemann
Bill Currie schrieb am Don, 17 Aug 2000: I've been having problems with lame `randomly' writing `incorrect' Xing headers. I finally figured out that it's not random (it's my fault) and lame isn't writing incorrect Xing info, but no info at all. What's been going on? I start up lame lame -k