Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-28 Thread Michelle Gross
From our website: WHAT IS POLICE BRUTALITY? Communities United Against Police Brutality defines police brutality as the use of excessive or unnecessary force by police officers with the purpose or expectation of causing death, bodily harm or mental harm to a human being. It is generally

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-28 Thread timothy connolly
I don't much jump into the fray anymore but I do want to address some misconceptions about Barbara Schneider. If one reads the investigative report of the event it becomes painfully clear that the police over reacted. You won't find many police wanting to defend action taken in this instance.

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 10:40 PM, Michelle Gross wrote: At 09:02 PM 10/26/03 -0600, Neal Krasnoff wrote: Don't change the subject. Address the statement of fact as written. snip On Oct 26, 2003, at 3:24 PM, Rosalind Nelson wrote: Mark Anderson writes: snip Michelle Gross posted a few days ago

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Terrell Brown
Neal Krasnoff wrote: That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control, center mass. Rosalind Nelson responds: The officers might benefit from more

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Anne McCandless
Today it became apparent to me that the definition of POLICE BRUTALITY varies. How do people on this list, esp CUAPB, define police brutality? Anne McCandless Jordan Blank Bkgrd.gif

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-27 Thread Michael Atherton
Anne McCandless wrote: Today it became apparent to me that the definition of POLICE BRUTALITY varies. How do people on this list, esp CUAPB, define police brutality? Interesting assignment. This question has helped me realize that there are at least two definitions, depending on the

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Rosalind Nelson
Mark Anderson writes: We continue to see postings on this List complaining about all the police brutality, but there seems to be no distinctions made between true police brutality and the whining and blatant lies by many criminals looking to get out of their screw-ups

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Anderson Turpin
n Bancroft - Original Message - From: Anne McCandless To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:24 PM Subject: [Mpls] Police Brutality Ten months ago, we were going through a similar debate when two Mpls police officers were accused of urinating o

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread WizardMarks
Rosalind Nelson wrote: Doctors can be good people or bad people. Some of them are very good at what they do and some are bad. But there seems to be an understanding among doctors that they need to have a standard of ethics that applies to all of them. WM: I don't think that is

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Shawn Lewis
I want to clarify one thing. My post: Arrest takes place at Downtown Mpls Jail during demonstration comes directly from e-mails from Michelle Gross: From : Michelle Gross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject :CUAPB EMERGENCY ALERT!! Date :Sat, 25 Oct 2003 21:58:24

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 4:01 PM, WizardMarks wrote: Every cop wants to go home to his/her family at the end of shift. That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control,

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Rosalind Nelson
Neal Krasnoff wrote: That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control, center mass. The officers might benefit from more nuanced training. Unfortunately for

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Oct 26, 2003, at 8:40 PM, Rosalind Nelson wrote: Neal Krasnoff wrote: That is why an officer, when faced with an apparent EDP who is attacking the officer with a knife - will react as his training has taught him: ...sight alignment, trigger control, center mass. The officers might benefit

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-26 Thread Michelle Gross
At 09:02 PM 10/26/03 -0600, Neal Krasnoff wrote: Don't change the subject. Address the statement of fact as written. Neal Krasnoff Loring Park I'd be delighted. In the Barbara Schneider case, she was shot to death over having her radio too loudly. Her neighbors and building manager knew very

RE: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-24 Thread ken bradley
I have been very vocal regarding Minneapolis police behavior in the past, specifically excessiveforce by our police (police brutality). I have to agree with Jim Bernstein on this issue. Officer Haaf brutal murderwas a horriblecrime andhas no prior connection to policebrutality in this city.

[Mpls] Police Brutality Marches:CUAPB and Coalition of Black Churches

2003-10-23 Thread Shawn Lewis
Basically, Same issues different groups who are active on this issue. Protest march decries Minneapolis police brutality Terry Collins and Howie Padilla, Star Tribune Published October 23, 2003 Near the end of a three-hour rally against police brutality Wednesday, protesters sealed the day

[Mpls] Police Brutality Complaints

2003-10-23 Thread Michelle Gross
At 09:45 AM 10/22/03 -0500, Dyna wrote: I just returned from a trip to Tucson Arizona, and I read about the Minneapolis incident in the Arizona Daily Star. It struck me that in Tuscon, despite the usual obnoxious cop attitude, the police really do try to help everyone, even the freaks. I think

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists Martha Donald as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word. Jon Gorder Loring Park

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Tamir Nolley
In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists Martha Donald as a life 'stolen' by law enforcement. To which Jon Gorder replied: Could Ms. Gross post that list here for us? Stolen is an odd word. TN I've always thought of Melissa

re: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Barbara Lickness
Tamir writes: This created a climate where those who had mental problems, (already unstable enough) became terrified of law enforcement and the case could be made, that this led Martha Donald to arm herself and thus led to the tragic death of both of these women. I say: I have posted about this

RE: [mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Bernstein
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tamir Nolley Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: [mpls] Police Brutality In a message dated 10/22/03 11:09:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CYAPB lists

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality Complaints, tipping

2003-10-23 Thread Neal Krasnoff
On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 09:27 AM, Michelle Gross wrote: Actually, the Minneapolis Police Department is considered by other police departments to be one of the most brutal and one of the most poorly run police departments in the country. I base this on numerous discussions with

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread Joncgord
In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha Donald) Could you provide quotes or other evidence that supports that statement? Thanks. Jon Gorder

RE: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread David Brauer
In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha Donald)   Could you provide quotes or other evidence that supports that statement? Thanks.         Jon

Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality

2003-10-22 Thread Anne McCandless
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Police Brutality In a message dated 10/22/03 8:36:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When people consider cop-killers victims of police brutality (i.e. Martha

[Mpls] Police Brutality Conference

2002-07-23 Thread wcooley
From: SMTP%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23-JUL-2002 10:27:02.87 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subj: Mpls. List Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:27:02 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mpls. List The October 22 National Coalition against Police

[Mpls] Police Brutality

2002-04-09 Thread W. Brandon Lacy Campos
I am a member of the Board of Directors of YouthAction, a national non-profit dedicated to supporting youth who are organizing for social change and justice in their communities. This weekend past, we had our second annual gathering for youth organizing in San Antonio, TX. During the conference