It's tough for an ordinary citizen to know what needs to change
systematically when we are in the dark as to what systematic problems are
at the root of the police actions.
Regarding Civilian Review, I believe that they were originally set up to
address isolated instances of excessive force.
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Rich McMartin sets out a wild and provocative suggestion that perhaps we
should just abolish the police force in Minneapolis and see
Dean Zimmermann wrote:
Rich McMartin sets out a wild and provocative suggestion that perhaps we
should just abolish the police force in Minneapolis and see hat happens.
When I first read it I was aghast, surely he must be kidding. But, then,
really, is the alternative any better?
Just
I went to the police to get the information since I have a friend there I can
trust. I asked, 'how does the officer see the situation?' and got the answer I
wrote. In the case of Mr. Saunders, the officeres did not have the information
that Mr. Saunders' family had tried to get HCMC to keep him
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In a message dated 11/23/00 9:03:26 PM Central Standard Time,
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yes, it is definitely about time that we start challenging
Carol Becker wrote:
From the Minneapolis City Charter, Chapter 6, Section 1
The executive committee shall, by and with the consent of a majority of all
of the members
of the city council, ...
Carol, or any other list members: Please help me out with some information
about just what the
I'd like to clarify my statement since I was deemed "complacent" about police
behavior. From listening to an intelligent, articulate officer who was not at
the scene when Mr. Saunders was shot, I can say that the squad car officers are
trained to see something different than you who were also
he City Council."
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Carol Becker wrote:
Please forgive me if I have missed previous comments on this aspect of the
issue. I was just wondering if there is, or has ever been, talk of setting
up a 'state-wide' police misconduct review board. Such a board would
(hopefully) objectively deal with the most egregious charges of police
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I'd like to clarify my statement since I was deemed "complacent" about police
behavior. From listening t
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Perhaps we should just abolish
Is this really about the police? Or is it about the inability of our
administration to envision a community that supports both it's citizens and
it's police force? Or is it about the effect of other areas of our
administration that fail to recognize what is not working in our
communities? Or is
In a message dated 11/24/00 10:26:26 AM Central Standard Time,
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squad car officers are
trained to see something different than you who were also not there are
seeing.
That means that the city's population and the line officers--and hence all
other
police personnel
I am not sure why this issue of police parking and the
abuse of power it implies has not yet been tied into
the Mpls police dept's FIFTH KILL OF THE YEAR (though
police might argue that three of those should not
count since they were mentally handicapped).
What ever happened to that
In a message dated 11/23/00 9:50:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can we please have a discussion on this list about
proper police conduct and how we can hold police
accountable for deviations from proper conduct?
This is a sore subject - no pun intended - considering I was mugged in my own
yes, it is definitely about time that we start challenging our
out-of-control - or perhaps too-much-in-control police department. i
think the FIVE KILLINGS IN THE PAST YEAR is a further manifestation of a
police department that is not held accountable to our elected civilian
government.
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The way the city charter is written, the Chief of Police is responsible only
to the Mayor. Please remember, the City Council members have little if any
authority over the police.
In a message dated 11/23/00 9:03:26 PM Central Standard Time,
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yes, it is definitely about time that we start challenging our
out-of-control - or perhaps too-much-in-control police department. i
think the FIVE KILLINGS IN THE PAST YEAR is a further manifestation of
Ms. Collier,
I think you have definitely read the City Charter incorrectly. Chapter 3, section 4
of the City Charter provides the executive committee is responsble for the appointment
and removal of the police chief. The executive committee includes the mayor, the city
council president and
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