Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

Hello. Good news for the many fans of the MSE "Programming is Fun!" book! The translation of chapter 1 and 2 into English and French is ready to test. The German version of chapter 1 and 2 was adapted for international code too. Included pdf in German, English and French: progfun_de.pdf

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

> sak is independent of a specific GUI toolkit, so I suggest you keep your repository where it is. Hello Graeme. Indeed sak can be used for fpGUI and LCL too. Here, in MSE universe, was committed only the MSE branch of sak. I have to confess too that I did use mseuniverse-sak to proof using

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/25/18 9:08 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > Looking at MSEUniverse now (I haven't in a very long time), it seems the > structure has changed completely, and MSEUniverse is now some > "repository group" and other repositories can become sub-groups of it. > Not sure why you would want that,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 25/09/18 07:59, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > When I make suggestions or pull requests to any other project (git > based), I clone there repository, branch, make my changes and > suggestions in that branch and notify the original author. Looking at MSEUniverse now (I haven't in a very long time),

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 24/09/18 13:40, fredvs wrote: > The last commit of mseuniverse-sak_mse date from more than 3 years and is no > more compatible with last msegui commits. sak is independent of a specific GUI toolkit, so I suggest you keep your repository where it is. Martin simply needs to removed his "proof of

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> That most likely will not work because mseuniverse/sak Of course, with git I would not have hoped for anything else. Finally with patience and only one password in mind: https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak/commits/master > Anyway, I added you as developer to mseuniverse/sak. Have fun! ;-)

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On 9/24/18 2:46 PM, fredvs wrote: >> Which of your repos you want to push to my mseuniverse/sak? > > https://github.com/fredvs/sak > That most likely will not work because mseuniverse/sak and github.com/fredvs/sak don't have the same ancestor. remember the --force issue? Anyway, I added you as

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

> Which of your repos you want to push to my mseuniverse/sak? https://github.com/fredvs/sak -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

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> What do you want to do? I only want to commit last change of sak_mse project. The last commit of mseuniverse-sak_mse date from more than 3 years and is no more compatible with last msegui commits. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

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On 9/24/18 2:28 PM, fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > Pfff, not easy. > > I did: > > $ git remote add origin https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak > > then > > $ git push --all > > Username for 'https://gitlab.com': fredvs > Password for 'https://fre...@gitlab.com': > > > result after

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Hello Martin. Pfff, not easy. I did: $ git remote add origin https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak then $ git push --all Username for 'https://gitlab.com': fredvs Password for 'https://fre...@gitlab.com': > result after username + password: remote: You are not allowed to push code to

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/22/18 3:08 PM, fredvs wrote: > Re-hello. > > Huh, i do not see sak_mse projet in MSEuniverse. it is deleted ? > Here: https://gitlab.com/mseuniverse/sak Please note, the MSEuniverse, the books and the MSElang repositories are now in MSEide+MSEgui group because people complained about

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/22/18 2:58 PM, fredvs wrote: >> Hmm, I see I forgot to push the restored dbfilter demo DB file. > > Are you sure? > In the screenshot in commitlog the magenta colored label for the remote "origin/master" branch is two commits behind the local "master" branch. Martin

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

Re-hello. Huh, i do not see sak_mse projet in MSEuniverse. it is deleted ? Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

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Huh, maybe you are taking about https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/mseuniverse. If so, sory for the noise. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

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> Hmm, I see I forgot to push the restored dbfilter demo DB file. Are you sure? In https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/mseide-msegui/commits/master the last commit is from 20 Sep, 2018 3 commits. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/21/18 8:56 PM, fredvs wrote: >> Why don't you copy your /.ssh directory to a memory stick? > > For the same reason as for my car keys (I continually lose them or do not > remember anymore where they are). > With a unique password in head, I have less problems. > You use a unique password

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

> don't know what you want to do. Can you explain? OK, as beginning I propose to do this: Configure my PC to be able to commit ideU to MSE GitLab too. 1) Clone my ideU (Github) directory to ideu_gitlab (for GitLab). 2) Delete old .git in ideu_gitlab 3) Do in that directory $ git init 4)

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

> Why don't you copy your /.ssh directory to a memory stick? For the same reason as for my car keys (I continually lose them or do not remember anymore where they are). With a unique password in head, I have less problems. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

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> It is intended to be printed on A4 paper. Are you taking about paper that needs to kill trees, needs lot of energy and is highly polluting to produce and was using as support in older centuries? And to print needs chemical products also highly polluting. Sorry but I do not want to be

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/21/18 3:59 PM, fredvs wrote: >> Or do you use SSH in GitHub with a valid key pair and damaged your key pair > for GitLab? > > No, I do not use SSH with Github, only a password. > I know that SSH is more secure but I do not code forbidden things so I am > not afraid. > > And it is much more

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/21/18 3:41 PM, fredvs wrote: >> The English and French PDFs have a completely different layout than the > German original. Is this intended? > > Huh, completely no, the only thing I did is to disable the 2 columns feature > of the text-layout. > And fit some images on the right place. >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/21/18 3:59 PM, fredvs wrote: >> Or do you use SSH in GitHub with a valid key pair and damaged your key pair > for GitLab? > > No, I do not use SSH with Github, only a password. > I know that SSH is more secure but I do not code forbidden things so I am > not afraid. > SSH is more

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> Or do you use SSH in GitHub with a valid key pair and damaged your key pair for GitLab? No, I do not use SSH with Github, only a password. I know that SSH is more secure but I do not code forbidden things so I am not afraid. And it is much more easy for a nomad like me that

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

>The English and French PDFs have a completely different layout than the German original. Is this intended? Huh, completely no, the only thing I did is to disable the 2 columns feature of the text-layout. And fit some images on the right place. IMHO it is much more comfortable to read and that

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On 9/20/18 7:22 PM, fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > Before that I attack gitlab, could it be possible to check the first chapter > in English (or French if you can) ? > I don't know well English nor French so I can not comment on the text. Some expressions probably are not ideal. " Als erstes

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Friday 21 September 2018 00:11:34 fredvs wrote: > > It is like in GitHub. > > In GitHub they only ask a password. > You want to use the HTTPS protocol in order to push (not recommended)? Please use the URL https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/mseuniverse.git instead the SSH URL

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Friday 21 September 2018 00:06:29 fredvs wrote: > > the examples could be made in English. > > And maybe the images too. > Of course. I know that I can not convince you, the following comments are meant for other readers. > I am not convinced that using branches would make things easier for

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> It is like in GitHub. In GitHub they only ask a password. -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

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> the examples could be made in English. And maybe the images too. I am not convinced that using branches would make things easier for the translator. In my case, I load 2 projects in LyX, the template progfun_en.lyx and the target progfun_fr.lyx and compile + switch from one to the other. But

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

Hello Martin. Before that I attack gitlab, could it be possible to check the first chapter in English (or French if you can) ? This to see if I am on the right way. Included pdf files: progfun_en.zip progfun_fr.zip

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On Thursday 20 September 2018 14:18:24 fredvs wrote: > > Please post them to MSEuniverse. > > Br. They ask me for keys (and, like for my car, I do not know where > they are). > It is like in GitHub. Martin ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Thursday 20 September 2018 14:22:56 fredvs wrote: > > I made the necessary branches and pushed them to gitlab: > > https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/books > > I do not see the English branche. ;-( > Forgotten, sorry. Here it is: https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/books/tree/master_en Martin

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> I made the necessary branches and pushed them to gitlab: > https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/books I do not see the English branche. ;-( Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

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> Please post them to MSEuniverse. Br. They ask me for keys (and, like for my car, I do not know where they are). (But maybe if you give some easy light, with console commands (please no git programs) I will be less terrorized.) Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Thursday 20 September 2018 13:19:07 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > Because of my terror of git, I will give the translated files in a zip file > per lang. > According your wishes. (no change in filename of the lyx file.) > Please post them to MSEuniverse. That there will be no common git

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

Hello Martin. Because of my terror of git, I will give the translated files in a zip file per lang. According your wishes. (no change in filename of the lyx file.) > The examples could be made in English. OK. I will do first the checked translation for English and French. Then Spanish and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Wednesday 19 September 2018 20:13:31 fredvs wrote: > Hello Martin. > > Ok, it was in mse.module ---> mse_fr.module created. > Please make the change in the dedicated branch, don't change the filename. So later changes in mse.module can be propagated to the different languages easily. An

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

> Or does LaTeX-LyX provide a better translation mechanism? I do not know, I use my custom way to translate your German pdf into pdf of other language. Then I use LyX and change text from German to other lang (using copy-paste from the translated pdf). All works ok, I block on a little detail:

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On Wednesday 19 September 2018 02:21:18 fredvs wrote: > > Not sure that using LyX will be easier than editing the pdf with > LibreOffice Draw.and re-export as pdf. > But ok, I will try with LyX. > Translating the LyX source is better because the document layout is defined there. Simply modifying

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Hello Martin. OK, the lyx files are in /books/layouts. Not sure that using LyX will be easier than editing the pdf with LibreOffice Draw.and re-export as pdf. But ok, I will try with LyX. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

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> The Latex/Lyx project is here: > https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/books/tree/master/programmierspass > if you like to translate without disrupting the document layout. = LyX error: Module not available The module mse has been requested by this document but has not been found in the list of

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSE Programing Pass Book

On Tuesday 18 September 2018 16:09:00 fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > Included translation of the MSE Programing Pass book: Thanks, please push it to MSEuniverse when you think it is good enough. The Latex/Lyx project is here: https://gitlab.com/mseide-msegui/books/tree/master/programmierspass if you

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Hello. Huh, after a deeper check, it appears that the translation (done by Google-translate) from Germain into English, Spanish and Portuguese is more or less understandable (but needs work). But for translation from German into French, there is lot of work to make it understandable. I will do