Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:29:18 +0100, Hans-Peter Zeedijk wrote: Do I always need a seperate powersupply for a harddisk? Only if the drive is relative new or for use in Laptops (e.g. Quantum LPS series) I had one of those drives build into a Phillips 8250 with no problems. You mean 2,5" HDDs, don't you? Is DOS2 built in in one of these interfaces? In HSH, no. In Gouda, yes in MK, yes but not all of them. Novaxis from Gouda? With Dos 2??? Which version I think you are wrong... It would be a surprise to me to discover my Novaxis 1.50 has DOS 2 built inside after almost four years using it... CYA Get EuroLinked!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re[2]: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
[SCSI] What harddisks can I connect? Everything: ZIP, JAZZ, Bernouli, Syquest, CD-ROMs [...] But forget about ZIP-plus (The ZIP with both parallel and so-called SCSI interface). This thing uses a controller which should automatically detect the difference between a parallel and SCSI connection. The parallel part is ok, but the SCSI implementation is that _lousy_, that a) It won't work unless the ZIPplus is the only device in the SCSI chain b) if you have by any chance another device in the chain, the cances that it will get corrupted are almost 100% Eric (speaking out of own experience :-( ) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
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-- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden:maandag 22 februari 1999 13:53 Aan: owner-msx-outgoing; msx Onderwerp:Re[2]: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP! [SCSI] What harddisks can I connect? Everything: ZIP, JAZZ, Bernouli, Syquest, CD-ROMs [...] But forget about ZIP-plus (The ZIP with both parallel and so-called SCSI interface). This thing uses a controller which should automatically detect the difference between a parallel and SCSI connection. The parallel part is ok, but the SCSI implementation is that _lousy_, that a) It won't work unless the ZIPplus is the only device in the SCSI chain b) if you have by any chance another device in the chain, the cances that it will get corrupted are almost 100% Eric (speaking out of own experience :-( ) So you have a ZIP drive connected to your MSX? I am planning to do the same. Do you have any tips? I have a HSH SCSI interface. Robert MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
Van: Manuel Bilderbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talking about SCSI interfaces: Which one is better: HSH or Gouda 1.001? (I can choose now) I think Gouda, its faster and electronically stronger than the HSH. (I broke a HSH after 1/2 year use and using Gouda now for over 2 years) It is still based on the same controler: I have 3 gouda's, 2 of them heve been broken at least once! (controller problems). Mari van den Broek has (or had) a HSH with no problemes at all. What's the story about SCSI terminators? Leave terminators on interface and last device in the chain, the rest no terminator! That is the way it should be! What harddisks can I connect? Everything: ZIP, JAZZ, Bernouli, Syquest, CD-ROMs every capacity harddisk with a 50 pin cable or any other with the appropriate adapter/gender changer. No more than 7 devices, including controller. (You can connect tapestreamers, DAT drives, scanners, etc, but there is no software to use them, but they still work) on MSX it is even possible to connect a second computer to a scsi-chain. Do I always need a seperate powersupply for a harddisk? Only if the drive is relative new or for use in Laptops (e.g. Quantum LPS series) I had one of those drives build into a Phillips 8250 with no problems. I asume you mean: if the harddisk doesn't need to much power. But why connect the harddisk inside the computer? Then your dos2 and scsi controller should be inside too! And that is not going to be easy. Is DOS2 built in in one of these interfaces? In HSH, no. In Gouda, yes in MK, yes but not all of them. In the Gouda there is no DOS2 present!! these are able to use the dos2 build in the computer, regardless in which sub-slot DOS2 is placed. if you have a hsh, then dos2 must be in a lower slot then the hsh-cartridge itself. This also counts for the older mak/green interfaces. The gouda uses in Turbo-R the build in dos2, for MSX2 it should do either, but I am not sure (lets try at the fair) If so, does it give a problem since I already have DOS2 built in my MSX? no, one will shut off the other. the first one will be used (in a lower slot) Any useful answers will probably be put in The Ultimate MSX FAQ! Ask and you will get an answer if I can give you one greetings -+-+-+-+-+-+- Maico Arts Isabella van Portugalstraat 9 5346 PJ OSS the Netherlands tel: +31-412-690757 fax: +31-412-690432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (using just one address is enough) -+-+-+-+-+-+- MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
I_ball wrote: The first version of the "new" novaxis "rom" is finished. It you want it you can get it from me. The hardware you need for it is. Any scsi interface with the same scsi controller as the novaxis scsi. Which ones are they? 2 mappers , because the "rom" will be installed in your secondary mapper... Talking about SCSI interfaces: Which one is better: HSH or Gouda 1.001? (I can choose now) What's the story about SCSI terminators? What harddisks can I connect? Do I always need a seperate powersupply for a harddisk? Is DOS2 built in in one of these interfaces? If so, does it give a problem since I already have DOS2 built in my MSX? Etc! Any useful answers will probably be put in The Ultimate MSX FAQ! -- Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://www.sci.kun.nl/marie/home/manuelbi MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
RE: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
Some answers, i have a HSH SCSI interface, (it is for sale, incl 32Mb disk) - No DOS2 builtin - External power supply is very advisable, disks are powerhungry, especially at startup - SCSI interface is terminated internally in cartridge, you need at the other side of the SCSI cable also a terminator. In general a total of 2 terminators, one at both end of the cable. That is true for all SCSI setups, 90% of SCSI problems are related to termination/cable errors. - Any SCSI-2 disk will do. Small (256 or less) are useful and cheap because of the 8*32Mb partition limitation. I have not seen a partition mapper utility for the HSH interface Hans http://www.geocities.com/omsx -Original Message- From: Manuel Bilderbeek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP! I_ball wrote: The first version of the "new" novaxis "rom" is finished. It you want it you can get it from me. The hardware you need for it is. Any scsi interface with the same scsi controller as the novaxis scsi. Which ones are they? 2 mappers , because the "rom" will be installed in your secondary mapper... Talking about SCSI interfaces: Which one is better: HSH or Gouda 1.001? (I can choose now) What's the story about SCSI terminators? What harddisks can I connect? Do I always need a seperate powersupply for a harddisk? Is DOS2 built in in one of these interfaces? If so, does it give a problem since I already have DOS2 built in my MSX? Etc! Any useful answers will probably be put in The Ultimate MSX FAQ! -- Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://www.sci.kun.nl/marie/home/manuelbi MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
What's the story about SCSI terminators? SCSI has a start and an end. The start assumes the cable to have a certain impedance, which is the value it would have if the cable is endless. Any device not being the last should have impedance 0. This is not possible, but it will be very low. The last device should still look like the cable is endless, iow the impedance should be the same as that of an infinitely long cable. That is what a terminator is. It adds this impedance to the cable. (Which explains the name: it terminates the cable) SCSI systems are quite stable. I have heard of people putting a terminator on every device, or none at all, and the system still works. But it should have one terminater at the end, and none at other places. I hope this helps. Bye, shevek --- Visit the internet summercamp via http://polypc47.chem.rug.nl:5002 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
Some answers, i have a HSH SCSI interface, (it is for sale, incl 32Mb disk) - No DOS2 builtin - External power supply is very advisable, disks are powerhungry, especially at startup How do you arrange that? - Any SCSI-2 disk will do. Small (256 or less) are useful and cheap because of the 8*32Mb partition limitation. I have not seen a partition mapper utility for the HSH interface If you're selling your disk seperately, please contact me... Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://www.sci.kun.nl/marie/home/manuelbi MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
Re: NOVAXIS scsi and general questions added! HELP!
-- Van: Manuel Bilderbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talking about SCSI interfaces: Which one is better: HSH or Gouda 1.001? (I can choose now) I think Gouda, its faster and electronically stronger than the HSH. (I broke a HSH after 1/2 year use and using Gouda now for over 2 years) What's the story about SCSI terminators? Leave terminators on interface and last device in the chain, the rest no terminator! What harddisks can I connect? Everything: ZIP, JAZZ, Bernouli, Syquest, CD-ROMs every capacity harddisk with a 50 pin cable or any other with the appropriate adapter/gender changer. No more than 7 devices, including controller. (You can connect tapestreamers, DAT drives, scanners, etc, but there is no software to use them, but they still work) Do I always need a seperate powersupply for a harddisk? Only if the drive is relative new or for use in Laptops (e.g. Quantum LPS series) I had one of those drives build into a Phillips 8250 with no problems. Is DOS2 built in in one of these interfaces? In HSH, no. In Gouda, yes in MK, yes but not all of them. If so, does it give a problem since I already have DOS2 built in my MSX? no, one will shut off the other. Etc! Any useful answers will probably be put in The Ultimate MSX FAQ! -- Grtjs, Manuel PS: MSX 4 EVER! (Questions? See: http://www.faq.msxnet.org) PPS: Visit my homepage at http://www.sci.kun.nl/marie/home/manuelbi MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/) MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the body (not subject) "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes :-) Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] (www.stack.nl/~wiebe/mailinglist/)
