Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
] Which has been implemented in DOS2 already. And why is it so hard to ] initialize once without going to Basic? Does it have something to do with ] that CLEAR-issue? No. It has to do with the way in which MSXDOS.SYS (which is loaded in high area of memory) manages the DOS memory. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management to DOS2 and use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan really rules. Yep, but most of the TSR's will use the memmory management of memman also, so if you seperate those routine most of the current TSRs won't work anymore (and I doubt if somenone will rewrite them.) David .--. |o_o | |:_/ | "One difference between SuSE and Red Hat is that the // \ \ former operates in a country where people don't sue (| | ) each other over coffee being too hot." /'\_ _/`\ Linus Torvalds \___)=(___/ MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
It uses what ever the Micro Cabin game also uses. In my case a korean FM-PAC and ofcourse the PSG. You will probably find it on http://www.file-hunter.com in a few days. Just give me some time to collect everything... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pablo Vasques Bravo-Villalba Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB)) Alex Wulms wrote: ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :) []s, -Parn (ICQ#1693182) /| | | |\ \| ___ |/ http://parn.cjb.net/ \/ - \/ Parn's Music Station | | Game Music XMs and more! -- --Izati Aba Mehinam Eto Kafe Nan MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
At 10:22 12-7-00 -0300, you wrote: Alex Wulms wrote: ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) Hey, I want it. Where can we find it? Does it work with both MSX-Music and PSG? :) If you mean the TSR can play only the PSG versions of the music, no. I think that particular routine wasn't included. If you means something else, then it definetly is YES!! GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
] At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote: ] ] I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You ] can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM ] version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to ] properly load a TSR under DOS. ] ] That's why MemMan TSR management rules. If we could extract that TSR ] management system and adapt it for DOS2 only, we wouldn't have that problem. We would still have the problem that the TSR management routines must be loaded in BASIC environment. But indeed, in that case, you need to go to BASIC only once in stead of many times. But then again, if you load memman, you also need to go to BASIC only once. And in that case you do not only have a splendit TSR manager but also a very good memory manager. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't switch it off. That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM ? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses the BDOS to print or to zero if it uses asciiz strings. Pierre MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
At 18:06 10-7-00 +0200, you wrote: The problem is, you always see the welcome message of MemMan. You can't switch it off. That should be no problem. How about using a disk editor to patch MEMMAN.COM ? Just change the first character of the welcome message to '$' if it uses the BDOS to print or to zero if it uses asciiz strings. That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to Basic to initialize the rest... GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
[MemMan] That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to Basic to initialize the rest... Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000! ;-)). The specs are lying around somewhere on e.g. funet. Eric MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
At 10:43 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote: [MemMan] That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to Basic to initialize the rest... Hm, then why not rewrite the entire MemMan (Yeah! MemMan2000! ;-)). The specs are lying around somewhere on e.g. funet. Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management to DOS2 and use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan really rules. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
Hi, Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Greetings, Frits Sure. But I think it's better to leave the memory management to DOS2 and use the TSR-manager from MemMan, because that part of MemMan really rules. GreeTz, BiFi MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
] ] Hi, ] ] Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes. Great tool. All microcabin musics on the background :-)) Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
] ] ] [MemMan] ] That's one solution. You must admit it's not a nice one, but it IS one. ] IMHO it's better to rewrite the MemMan init-routine to NOT let it go to ] Basic to initialize the rest... I wish you much success with writing a TSR initialization routine that runs under DOS and does not need to go back to BASIC but loads the code in such a way that it is not destroyed when the user eventually goes to BASIC anyway. I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to properly load a TSR under DOS. Kind regards, Alex Wulms -- Visit The MSX Plaza (http://www.inter.nl.net/users/A.P.Wulms) for info on XelaSoft, Merlasoft, Quadrivium, XSA Disk images, the MSX Hardware list, SD-Snatcher on fMSX, documentation and lots more. MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
At 00:37 12-7-00 +0200, you wrote: I myself have never been able to do so. Just take for example R800-drive. You can only load it from BASIC. And the only reason that I never made a DOS .COM version of it is exactly because, by my knowledge, it is impossible to properly load a TSR under DOS. That's why MemMan TSR management rules. If we could extract that TSR management system and adapt it for DOS2 only, we wouldn't have that problem. GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
RE: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
At 11:44 11-7-00 +0200, you wrote: Speaking about tsr's. Does anyone still use/remember Micro Music ? Yes I do... What about it? GreeTz, BiFi Visit my Home Page at www.bifi.msxnet.org mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FTP: ftp.bifi.msxnet.org ICQ #36126979 MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
Re: MemMan issues (wasRe: A1 Spirit (disk version for 128KB))
MemMan sucks. It loads in an awful way (exiting to Basic). AFAIK, there is the ONLY way in which a TSR can be loaded. It is due to an incomplete design of MSX-DOS (makers did not though on page 3 memory reservation...) However it is posible to avoid the BASIC exit messages and the "_SYSTEM" print in the screen. I explain it in SD MESXES#13. 8-) *** NEXT BARCELONA MSX USERS MEETING: DECEMBER 9TH *** -- Konami Man - AKA Nestor Soriano (^ ^)v Itsumo MSX user [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://konamiman.msx.tni.nl Difference between Windows and a virus is that virus never fails. -- MSX Mailinglist. To unsubscribe, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe msx [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without the quotes) in the body (not the subject) of the message. Problems? contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information on MSX can be found in the following places: The MSX faq: http://www.faq.msxnet.org/ The MSX newsgroup: comp.sys.msx The MSX IRC channel: #MSX on Undernet
