Alexander,
Our aim for the multitouch and gesture work is to have the underlying
support installed by default in the 10.10 environment. The bare minimum
needed to make this happen is to promote mtdev and utouch-grail to main
from universe, although we hope to get all utouch-* packages into main
Hi all,
I've got a DKMS package ready for consumption for Apple's Magic
Trackpad. I would like a few people to test it out to ensure everything
is working properly. There's *magic* sequences that you have to send to
the device to switch it into multitouch mode, so feedback on whether its
working
Hi all,
We have MIR approval for mtdev, grail, and gesturetest! This is what we
need to do next:
1. Upload new utouch-grail (1.0.10-0ubuntu1) to unstable ppa with
Conflicts: xserver-xorg-input-gevdev (because we're switching to evdev)
and a Breaks: libutouch-geis1 1.0.8
2. Upload new
Hi all,
Normally we do all our packaging and reviewing in lp and bzr. However,
the xserver-xorg-input-evdev package is maintained in git at
git.debian.org. I have pushed a new version of evdev with gesture
changes to git://kernel.ubuntu.com/cndougla/xserver-xorg-input-evdev.git
branch ubuntu.
I
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 09:36 -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:18:17AM -0400, Chase Douglas wrote:
Hi all,
Normally we do all our packaging and reviewing in lp and bzr. However,
the xserver-xorg-input-evdev package is maintained in git at
git.debian.org. I have
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 18:46 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 08/20/2010 05:18 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
Normally we do all our packaging and reviewing in lp and bzr. However,
the xserver-xorg-input-evdev package is maintained in git at
git.debian.org. I have pushed a new version of evdev
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 18:18 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 08/20/2010 03:57 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
Hi all,
We have MIR approval for mtdev, grail, and gesturetest! This is what we
need to do next:
1. Upload new utouch-grail (1.0.10-0ubuntu1) to unstable ppa with
Conflicts
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 19:39 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
The patch is easier to grasp now, that's good! We need to test this one a bit
more, so no real ack yet. :-)
I've pushed this latest update to ppa:utouch-team/unstable. Once evdev
is published I'll remove gevdev from the unstable ppa.
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:30 -0600, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
Hey folks,
Ikbel's itching to get started on the next version of Ginn. I've given
him the go-ahead, but we could use your input/ideas on the planned
configuration management for Ginn (apps need to know how to intercept
gestures,
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 06:16 -0400, Paul S wrote:
My multitouch screen laptop supports 64 bit and on lucid I'm running
full disk encryption.
I notice the cdimage for maverick daily has just 32 bit for netbook.
Are there any plans to include 64 bit and also alternate installers?
AFAIK, the
Hi all,
Yesterday Henrik and I spent some time separating out the hid drivers
from the internal hid code in our utouch test driver packages. As such,
the multitouch-kernel-source package, which contained just the
magicmouse drivers, has been renamed to magicmouse-kernel-source. If you
have the
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 17:39 +0100, John Lea wrote:
Hi All,
I have just published version 0.2 of the Unity Gesture UI Guidelines; it
is available at http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfkkjjcj_1482g457bcc7 .
There are a lot of changes so it is worth having a quick read through,
but the most
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 15:50 +0100, John Lea wrote:
On 07/09/10 14:41, Chase Douglas wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 10:26 +0100, John Lea wrote:
On 02/09/10 21:32, Chase Douglas wrote:
1. The spec says, Performing the 'greedy' trigger gesture on top of an
application that does
Hi Didier,
I've pushed new packages to:
lp:~mtdev-team/mtdev/packaging
lp:~utouch-team/utouch-grail/packaging
These updates should help fix some gesture recognition issues and enable
fake multitouch support for legacy synaptics hardware when using the
evdev X input module. Please upload these
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 18:39 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 09/13/2010 06:21 PM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
[...]
Note that issues (3), (4), and (5) above could be remedied by
implementing additional gesture processing at the geis
(application-side) layer of the uTouch stack to give
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 06:11 -0600, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
Hey all,
There was some interesting chatter and note-taking on #xorg-devel today
around X, MT, and gestures, so I thought I would pass it along:
To give some context, ajax was acting as a transcriber for the MT and
gesture talks at
As I've thought some more about the current grail architecture and the
future when we have XInput 2.1 with full multitouch support, I realized
there may be an issue with our current implementation.
Grail currently takes MT input and looks for a subscribed gesture. If
there wasn't any, the MT
Hi all,
In case you haven't seen it yet, Peter posted a great blog entry on MT
in X. It's a high level overview of the concepts and issues involved,
don't worry if you're not an X hacker :). He also give his thoughts on
the gesture work we've put forward in Ubuntu.
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 14:10 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 10/05/2010 03:46 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
[...]
2. Application specific gesture or non-gesture MT events are performed
a. A series of MT events are sent by X to the WM and other clients
(flagged as being grabbed by the WM
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 14:21 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 10/04/2010 08:48 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
[...]
When I thought about MT grabbing, I realized that grabbing really needs
to be done on a per-finger basis, and the client needs to decide early
on whether to grab the touch through
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 08:23 -0600, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
Hey folks,
Chase and I have been discussing issues in our struggle to support MT on
Synaptics hardware. We tried to make some appropriate decisions, but
ultimately, to go any further, we need input from the MT community, from
Xorg
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 10:34 -0400, Chase Douglas wrote:
I'm going to ask around on the xorg-devel and linux-input mailing lists
on what others think the proper solution to this issue is. Feel free to
chime in here or elsewhere with your thoughts.
FYI, the thread on those lists can be found
Hi all,
We fixed an issue with the Magic Mouse and gestures late in the Maverick
development cycle. The updated libutouch-grail1 package didn't make it
onto the CD, so we're working on a Stable Release Update (SRU) for it.
The SRU process is at the last stage where we need people with a Magic
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 16:02 +0200, Zeno Albisser wrote:
On 10/12/2010 03:49 PM, ext Chase Douglas wrote:
This leads us to the gesture recognition mechanism Peter and I have been
discussing. Since we can't perform gesture recognition in the server, we
have to potentially perform recognition
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 17:23 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 10/14/2010 09:39 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 20:43 +0200, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On 10/13/2010 06:03 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
Good point. Would you mind going through, step-by-step, the case where
we start
On 11/22/2010 12:21 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
If the question is whether we want to enable gestures spanning more than one
application/window, it seems the answer is yes. Given that, using a global
gesture recognizer is efficient. Putting it in the window manager then makes a
lot of sense.
On 12/05/2010 10:10 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
Hey all;
Recently went through a great saga getting the touch screen (don't have
a stylus) working on a Dell XT2 under RHEL6+errata.
Huge thanks to Fafux[1] for lots of help.
My last remaining issue is calibration.
When I start up X, the
Hi everyone,
I booted up 2.6.37 today to find that gestures weren't working from my
magic trackpad. Due to a change made in the magicmouse driver, the
trackpad was saying it provided relative axis data. This throws off
grail, and failure ensues.
I have pushed a patch up to the linux-input
On 12/19/2010 11:40 AM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
Sorry for taking so long to reply to what is obviously a great opportunity -
it took a bit to get things sorted on our side. I now have commitments from
the people responsible for five of the six games to update the code so it
works with
On 01/20/2011 08:46 AM, Duncan M. McGreggor wrote:
On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Florian Boucault wrote:
What does that mean for users of grail/geis if Compiz is not used?
Due to limited resources and the need to focus on a limited set of
tasks, all of our development efforts involve
Hi all,
I just wrote a short blog post about the XI 2.1 work:
http://voices.canonical.com/chase.douglas/2011/01/24/multitouch-input-through-x-update/
Today I just pushed new versions of the packages to the ppa, including
support for grabbing mechanisms and pointer emulation of touchscreens.
On 02/02/2011 12:20 PM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 01/30/2011 05:07 PM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
Anyway, our next steps are:
- Get the rest of the games packaged. I don't expect big issues here
anymore.
- Get XInput to work.
Anything we're
On 02/03/2011 08:21 PM, OXullo Intersecans wrote:
On 02/feb/2011, at 20.59, Chase Douglas wrote:
* Overall, I'd suggest moving to bzr and hosting on launchpad. It's
certainly your choice where you host things, but I think you would find
launchpad helpful for handling source code and bugs
On 02/07/2011 02:28 PM, Duncan M. McGreggor wrote:
On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:16:20PM -0500, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 02/07/2011 11:00 AM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
This is a function of the fact that you can do two very
different things
On 02/07/2011 06:25 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
Henrik and I had a great discussion today. I'm going to try to summarize
the conclusions:
1. We need to have timeouts for system, or global, gestures. A system
gesture takes precedence over sending events to clients, so we need to
make a decision
Hi all,
Some more people (including Keith Packard) have reviewed the protocol
upstream. I think we have all the protocol issues hammered out now, it's
just a matter of implementation. However, in response to the reviews,
many small bits of the protocol have changed. These are mostly renames
of
On 02/22/2011 09:56 AM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
Hi everyone,
we have all multitouch games packaged and working with the updated XInput 2.1
API :-).
Installing python-libavg-games from OXullo's ppa
(https://launchpad.net/~oxullo/+archive/libavg) on top of the utouch stack
should get
On 02/23/2011 03:20 AM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:42:34PM -0500, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 02/22/2011 09:56 AM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
Hi everyone,
we have all multitouch games packaged and working with the updated XInput
2.1 API :-).
Installing python-libavg-games
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On 02/23/2011 06:23 PM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
On Feb 23, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 02/22/2011 09:56 AM, Ulrich von Zadow wrote:
However, this highlights an issue. I spent the last week and a half
making touch events integrate into the pointer event stream, and this
broke
Hi all,
I'm trying to work my way to core dev. Unfortunately, this is tricky
because I don't do much universe package management, so the typical
route of going through MOTU doesn't fit me well. In lieu of MOTU, I'm
creating a core dev application, and I'm going to have one of the
Developer
On 02/25/2011 09:58 AM, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
I second the praise and excitement shown by others on the list :-)
But, as Chase pointed out when I first enthused, let's not forget that
the majority of this work was done by Denis Dzyubenko -- thanks,
Denis!!! What's more, you and Chase make
On 02/28/2011 11:56 AM, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 02/28/2011 11:48 AM, Chase Douglas wrote:
All in all, I've got your games working properly out of the box here. I
just need to push two fixes to X and get you the patches to libavg.
I've pushed the libavg patches to:
https
Hi all,
We now have pre-release XI 2.1 work in Natty proper, so I'm moving bug
fix builds for this work to the main ppa:utouch-team/unstable ppa. I
have a feeling we'll re-purpose the ppa:utouch-team/xorg-unstable for
moving the gesture recognizer to the client side of X instead of part of
the X
On 03/07/2011 02:15 PM, Florian Boucault wrote:
On 03/07/2011 07:53 PM, Henrik Rydberg wrote:
On Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 07:50:44AM -0700, Duncan McGreggor wrote:
Hey all,
Just wanted to let everyone know about something cool... I was catching
up with the lead developer for the non-3d/GL(ES)
On 03/07/2011 04:09 PM, Florian Boucault wrote:
I suspect that we have not tested the feature in Natty for some time
now. It works flawlessly in Maverick. I will look into the Natty case as
soon as possible.
Chase, Henrik, can you send me your ~/.xsession-errors file?
I've attached mine.
On 03/19/2011 09:31 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 11:35 +0100, Andreas Willich wrote:
2011/3/19 Stephen M. Webb stephen.w...@canonical.com
Do you have the modified evdev plugin for the x.org server, the one
implementing the XCB gesture protocol and containing the grail
On 03/23/2011 05:53 AM, Andreas Willich wrote:
2011/3/21 Chase Douglas chase.doug...@canonical.com
mailto:chase.doug...@canonical.com
On 03/19/2011 09:31 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 11:35 +0100, Andreas Willich wrote:
2011/3/19 Stephen M. Webb stephen.w
On 04/07/2011 05:08 PM, Andreas Willich wrote:
Hi
I am now able to compile and run ginn with XI2.1 an gentoo and I am
currently cleaning up the ebuilds.
Hopefully I will be finished in the next days. Then I will also make
some videos of the whole in action.
Sweet!
The problem I had with
On 05/19/2011 03:43 AM, Paolo Olivo wrote:
Hi all,
thank you for all the suggestion for the previous topic.
I have another issue I found testing multi-touch on Ubuntu 11.04.
I obtain a weird cursor behavior when I set the coordinate
transformation matrix of the N-Trig multi-touch screen
On 06/02/2011 08:52 PM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
So, we no longer need a separate daily branch for utouch-geis, and the
Python bindings for utouch-geis are now available in the utouch-team
daily PPA.
Great work! I thought it wasn't possible to have just one packaging
branch for both dailies and
On 06/02/2011 12:01 PM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 17:35 +0200, José Expósito wrote:
I share with you the actual state of the specs for the next version of
Ginn to discuss about it, for add or remove more funcionality, talk
about configuration file format or anything that you
On 06/20/2011 03:23 PM, Austin Zhang wrote:
hi, team,
I have several questions on touch action.
1 For hid touch panel, what's the difference between Logical
Maximum/Minimum and Physical Maximum/Minimum for Direction-X and Y? In
driver, we in fact only use logical ones, right?
2 For
On 06/22/2011 07:06 AM, Rhishikesh wrote:
Hi All
I just wanted to know where i can get the latest sources to build the
entire XI2.1 stack right from the latest inputproto to the xinput test
utility for enabling MultiTouch and gestures.
I have looked around in the repositories of cndougla and
On 06/22/2011 06:11 PM, Austin Zhang wrote:
the end of this page?
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Multitouch/XDevelopment#Introduction
I just updated the page with a warning that the document is now
deprecated. Thanks for pointing this out!
-- Chase
___
On 09/20/2011 06:52 PM, Gustavo Luiz Duarte wrote:
Do you have installed package xserver-xorg-input-evdev with the patch
101-gestures.patch ?
There is a similar patch for synaptics.
You will need also package libutouch-grail1.
The x server will also need 501_xf86CoordinatesToWindow.patch.
I
On 11/09/2011 04:21 AM, Nuno Santos wrote:
Hi,
I'm developing a linux kernel driver for a multitouch device. I have
used as start point the usbtouchscreen driver included in linux-3.0
kernel source.
Hi Nuno,
I'm delighted to see people writing multitouch drivers!
However, this list
On 11/09/2011 10:09 AM, Nuno Santos wrote:
On 11/09/2011 05:27 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
It should list your device, and it should be attached to the Virtual
Core Pointer. You can list even more properties of the device by running:
xinput listdevice number or name
This should tell you
On 11/11/2011 03:54 AM, Nuno Santos wrote:
Ok thanks,
I have the device working as a working pointer device as well now. Nice! :)
One more questions arises at this point. What is the best way of
communicating with the device now?
I have a control panel that needs to change settings and
On 01/30/2012 04:18 PM, Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar wrote:
Hi,
Hi Ikbel!
I have just found this use case when you need the touch/multitouch
interface AND gesture interface on the same place.
http://goo.gl/DDYcc
An other use case is with drawing applications, you draw with fingers,
but you
Hi all,
We've made big changes to how uTouch works in Ubuntu Precise. These have
had an impact on what gestures can be recognized on touchpads. I wrote a
wiki page about the changes here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport
Note that not all ClickPad devices are recognized
On 03/10/2012 03:59 PM, 小龙 陈 wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently maintaining the utouch-* packages and Xorg packageswith Ubuntu
patches in Arch Linux and I saw than in the latest versionsof Ubuntu's xorg,
XInput 2.2 was backported to Xorg 1.14.0. So, I'mwondering if XInput 2.2 in
Xorg 1.12.0
On 03/22/2012 01:46 PM, Daniel d'Andrada wrote:
Example Use case (in Unity):
1- User lays 3 fingers over a window.
2- arrow handles/knobs fade in over all corners of the window and on its
center
3- User stares at those new things for a couple of seconds thinking
what the heck... ah! I
Hi all,
The beta 2 freeze is in effect and will not be lifted until next
thursday. We're all working on a bunch of fixes, so in the meantime
please install and upload packages to ppa:utouch-team/unstable until the
freeze is lifted.
I just pushed a new xserver-xorg-input-synaptics there to fix
Hi all,
As the uTouch project is growing larger and larger, we are now starting
to hit issues where code formatting may stray from the unity style
guidelines. When we develop changes, we might see incorrect style in
surrounding code. Should we have a policy that requires code format
fixes to be
On 03/26/2012 03:15 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 02:09:13PM -0700, Chase Douglas wrote:
Hi all,
As the uTouch project is growing larger and larger, we are now starting
to hit issues where code formatting may stray from the unity style
guidelines. When we develop changes
On 03/27/2012 06:10 AM, Daniel d'Andrada wrote:
On 26/03/12 18:09, Chase Douglas wrote:
Hi all,
As the uTouch project is growing larger and larger, we are now starting
to hit issues where code formatting may stray from the unity style
guidelines. When we develop changes, we might see
On 03/27/2012 12:23 PM, Daniel d'Andrada wrote:
On 27/03/12 13:38, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 03/27/2012 06:10 AM, Daniel d'Andrada wrote:
I suggest only fixing coding style in the lines your commit is going
change anyway and not doing changes that solely fix coding style at all,
even
On 03/26/2012 02:09 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
Hi all,
As the uTouch project is growing larger and larger, we are now starting
to hit issues where code formatting may stray from the unity style
guidelines. When we develop changes, we might see incorrect style in
surrounding code. Should we
On 03/30/2012 07:55 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
On 03/30/2012 03:15 AM, Benjamin Longuechaud wrote:
Do you know how Qt manage this?
I believe Qt has had a number of experimental approaches to multi-touch
and gesture events in their widget toolkit in the past. I understand
their current
On 05/14/2012 11:33 AM, Florian Echtler wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to use a Wacom Bamboo (CTH-460) as a multitouch input device
for Xorg. Using evtest on the console properly reports two touchpoints,
but no matter what I try under X, I'm always getting emulated scroll
wheel events
On 07/24/2012 05:00 AM, Matthis R wrote:
Hello everyone,
since I installed Ubuntu 64biz 12.04, the multitouch support for my
Synaptics trackpad seems to be broken.
When I try to sudo mtdev-test /dev/input/event9 (which is my touchpad)
it throws:
- error: could not grab device
Also geistest is
On 07/24/2012 12:47 PM, Matthis R wrote:
Am 24.07.2012 20:22, schrieb Chase Douglas:
On 07/24/2012 05:00 AM, Matthis R wrote:
Hello everyone,
since I installed Ubuntu 64biz 12.04, the multitouch support for my
Synaptics trackpad seems to be broken.
When I try to sudo mtdev-test /dev/input
On 07/24/2012 02:48 PM, Matthis R wrote:
Am 24.07.2012 23:36, schrieb Chase Douglas:
On 07/24/2012 12:47 PM, Matthis R wrote:
Am 24.07.2012 20:22, schrieb Chase Douglas:
On 07/24/2012 05:00 AM, Matthis R wrote:
Hello everyone,
since I installed Ubuntu 64biz 12.04, the multitouch support
On 08/11/2012 09:55 PM, Canmor Lam wrote:
Hello everyone!
We are adding supports to Ubuntu for our own developed multi-touch
device(with our own developed device driver). The problem is our device
seems working well but no any Unity gesture descripted on wiki
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
am sure the mouse already get simulated
secondary click work. Is it failed by the shift of contact?
Any suggestions?
2012/8/14 Canmor Lam canmor@gmail.com
mailto:canmor@gmail.com
On 08/14/2012 12:16 AM, Chase Douglas wrote:
On 08/11/2012 09:55 PM
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