Re: Re:Re: [Muscle] How can I know what's the type of a card through it's ATR?

2009-01-14 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2009/1/14 lion yjfp...@163.com: ha, I got a little more information. There are characters NAGRAVISION on one side of the cards. And there wroted Swiss Mode. But I still have no clear idea about it. http://www.nagravision.com/ It should be a pay-tv card. One of the more secret cards. I don't

Re: [Muscle] How can I know what's the type of a card through it's ATR?

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Bender
On Jan 13, 2009, at 5:30 PM, lion wrote: Thanks again for your informations. I have a last thing want to be confirmed that the commands defined in ISO7816-4 are not a standard? All commands are card dependent ? (Although sometimes different types may have the same commands set). There

Re: [Muscle] How can I know what's the type of a card through it's ATR?

2009-01-14 Thread s.ferey
Michael Bender a écrit : [...] The root cause of all this mess is because none of the smartcard manufacturers were mature enough to want to work *together* when the technology was being developed decades ago that's unfair incorrect. ISO 7816-3 4 were defined decades ago by card

Re: [Muscle] How can I know what's the type of a card through it's ATR?

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Bender
On Jan 14, 2009, at 5:11 PM, s.ferey wrote: Michael Bender a écrit : [...] The root cause of all this mess is because none of the smartcard manufacturers were mature enough to want to work *together* when the technology was being developed decades ago that's unfair incorrect. ISO 7816-3

Re:Re: [Muscle] How can I know what's the type of a card through it's ATR?

2009-01-14 Thread lion
http://www.nagravision.com/ It should be a pay-tv card. One of the more secret cards. I don't think you can do anything with this card (except watch TV). In general, the game is to create faked pay-tv cards not try to use a real one. Yes, that's right. It's used in our set-top box(STB). I