Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-14 Thread Theo Verelst
About the final accuracy of an FFT applied to note recording sample files, it's like if you have a number of waves in you FFT interval, they seldom will wrap around at sample boundaries, and certainly if you want an accurate match in your FFT, the FFT interval should as closely as possible

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-05 Thread Sound of L.A. Music and Audio
Hello all Is there a synchronous synchronisation to the given power frequency or does it have slippage like an asynch engine? If long term synchronous, there certainly is jitter. Am 02.01.2019 um 02:50 schrieb Ben Bradley:> Even with that, you're > still not accounting for variations caused

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
> Thank you Nigel, RB-J, Steffan, and Neil. > yer welcome from me.� armchair quarterbacking is pretty easy. > > > i suspect that those tone wheel waveforms are close to sinusoidal. >> > > Early models were. Starting I think around '53 with the B-3, C-3 and A1xx > series (A100

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-04 Thread Robin Gareus
On 1/4/19 3:22 PM, Frank Sheeran wrote: > Hey, if you don't want an actual Hammond, that's why I wrote the entire > soft synth in the first place! :-D > > The main reason I'm doing this patch is as a case study showing my soft > synth can emulate a real Hammond (and Leslie) warts and all, to a

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-04 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
> On 04.01.2019|KW1, at 15:22, Frank Sheeran wrote: > > Thank you Nigel, RB-J, Steffan, and Neil. You’re welcome! > > > > i suspect that those tone wheel waveforms are close to sinusoidal. > > Early models were. Starting I think around '53 with the B-3, C-3 and A1xx > series (A100

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-04 Thread Frank Sheeran
Thank you Nigel, RB-J, Steffan, and Neil. i suspect that those tone wheel waveforms are close to sinusoidal. > Early models were. Starting I think around '53 with the B-3, C-3 and A1xx series (A100 etc.) they were a bit brighter, and the foot pedals were FAR brighter. > but to find out

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-02 Thread raito
Robert, The tonewheels are intended to be perfectly sinusoidal, though their mass stamping does introduce various differences. The execption is the lowest octave of certain models, B3 included, made at certain times, as described here: http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/ToneWheel Given the

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-02 Thread STEFFAN DIEDRICHSEN
Frank, how did you record the signals? If taken from the TWG terminal strip, they contain also a ton of neighbor frequencies, sub-harmonics, etc. And sometime, the wheels have a certain flutter lading to some kind of low frequency modulations, etc. So, if you’re just off by 0.7 cents of, that

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
> I have a file which contains a second's worth of sound of each of the 91 > tonewheels of a Hammond B-3 organ in order. (Hammonds have spinning disks > whose edge is fluted in a shape of a desired output sound wave. This spins > in front of a mechanical pickup, which converts that

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-01 Thread Nigel Redmon
> However when run on the Hammond recording, it's detecting a wavelength of > perhaps 0.7 cent off. Interesting…I looked at this quickly, not an authority, but power line frequency regulation (Hammond relying on synchronous motors for pitch, of course)—in North America for 60 Hz—is adjusted

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-01 Thread Frank Sheeran
Evan thanks for the pointers to techniques. I haven't heard of them but will investigate. Ben thanks for the links. I actually have reviewed both but they'd have been critical had I not. Did you note the Utility Frequency page had a very surprising coincidental mention of Hammond?

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-01 Thread Ben Bradley
Your "detecting a wavelength of perhaps 0.7 cent off" caught my eye, as the Hammond tone generation is mechanically tied to the 50Hz or 60Hz power frequency, and I don't think the line frequency has ever been regulated as accurately as 1 cent (1/100th semitone). For accurate recordings, you'd need

Re: [music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-01 Thread Evan Balster
Hello, Frank — I tentatively ask what the "value under the curve would be" up to this > zero-crossing. If the value is close enough to zero, then I treat the > difference between this interpolated crossing and the first as a candidate > wavelength. > If you're doing this, you certainly want to

[music-dsp] Sound Analysis

2019-01-01 Thread Frank Sheeran
Summary I'm having trouble identifying exact frequencies in what should be an extremely easy-to-process WAV file, as a first step to doing a harmonic analysis with a Fourier transform. Details of Project I have a file which contains a second's worth of sound of each of the 91 tonewheels of