Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2014-06-19, Ross Bencina wrote: There is a segment of the market that values accurate models--at any computational cost. Then, can you do that at low latency, so that your model is also playable? That's of course the next frontier. And no, there's no shortcut there: those

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Rohit Agarwal
In terms of computational complexity, most of the complexity is in modelling, tuning the parameters to fit data. However, once you're done with this offline task, running the result should not be that heavy. That process should be real-time on new CPUs. Your latency should then be just the

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Ross Bencina
On 19/06/2014 4:52 PM, Rohit Agarwal wrote: In terms of computational complexity, most of the complexity is in modelling, tuning the parameters to fit data. However, once you're done with this offline task, running the result should not be that heavy. That process should be real-time on new

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Nigel Redmon
On Jun 18, 2014, at 11:52 PM, Rohit Agarwal ro...@khitchdee.com wrote: In terms of computational complexity, most of the complexity is in modelling, tuning the parameters to fit data. However, once you're done with this offline task, running the result should not be that heavy. That process

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2014-06-19, Rohit Agarwal wrote: I'm surprised by that statement quite honestly. At a tempo of 200 bpm, this latency would be roughly 10% of the beat interval which seems to me quite small. Then you obviously don't know techno. ;) -- Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy - de...@iki.fi,

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Rohit Agarwal
Enlighten me, does that mean faster tempo or is 10% too much delay for that?   From:Sampo Syreeni de...@iki.fi Sent:A discussion list for music-related DSP music-dsp@music.columbia.edu Date:Thu, June 19, 2014 2:04 pm Subject:Re: [music-dsp]

Re: [music-dsp] Simulating Valve Amps

2014-06-19 Thread Ross Bencina
On 19/06/2014 7:09 PM, Rohit Agarwal wrote: Enlighten me, does that mean faster tempo or is 10% too much delay for that? I think that this conversation is at risk of going off the rails. Make sure that you're asking the right question. There are a number of different ways that delays can

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 126, Issue 3

2014-06-19 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 6/19/14 10:21 AM, Frank Sheeran wrote: dirt-poor RBJ sez: and the loudspeaker and cabinet is the bitchiest bitch. I know nothing about DSP except what I've learned on this list, pretty much, but: wouldn't these components be susceptible to testing? sure, but they're both non-linear and