Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
On 22/08/2015, Ethan Duni ethan.d...@gmail.com wrote: So your whole point is that it's not *exactly* sinc^2, but a slightly noisy version thereof? My point was that there are no effects of resampling visible in the graphs. And you're wrong - all those 88 alias images are effects of

Re: [music-dsp] unsubscribe

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
On 22/08/2015, Alen akoe...@rogers.com wrote: Indeed. This debate is getting tiresome. That's what happens when someone does not accept that he is wrong, despite overwhelming evidence. ___ music-dsp mailing list music-dsp@music.columbia.edu

Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
So you claim that the graph depicts a sinc^2 graph, and it shows the frequency response of a continuous time linearly interpolated signal, and involves no resampling. That is false. That is not how Olli created his graph. First, the continuous time signal (which, by the way, already contains an

Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
So let me get this straight - you have an *imaginary* graph in your head, depicting the frequency response of a continuous time linearly interpolated signal, and you keep arguing about this *imaginary* graph (maybe to feed your fragile ego and to prove that you won). That is *not* what you see on

Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
And besides, no one ever said that Olli's graph depicts analyitical frequency responses of continuous time interpolators. The graphs come from a musicdsp.org code entry: http://musicdsp.org/archive.php?classid=5#49 There's no comment whatsover, just the code and the graphs. If you read his 65

Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2015-08-18, Tom Duffy wrote: In order to reconstruct that sinusoid, you'll need a filter with an infinitely steep transition band. You've demonstrated that SR/2 aliases to 0Hz, i.e. DC. That digital stream of samples is not reconstructable. The conjugate sine to +1, -1, +1, -1, ... is 0,

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2015-08-22 Thread Douglas Repetto
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Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
On 22/08/2015, Sampo Syreeni de...@iki.fi wrote: The conjugate sine to +1, -1, +1, -1, ... is 0, 0, 0, 0... Just phase shift the original sine at the Nyquist frequence. Let me ask what do you mean by conjugate sine ? If you mean complex conjugate, and assume the sine to be the real part

Re: [music-dsp] Compensate for interpolation high frequency signal loss

2015-08-22 Thread Peter S
Okay, I'll risk exceeding my daily message limit. If the administrators think it is inappropriate, dealing with that is at their discretion. Here is another proof that the alias images in the spectrum are caused by the sampling/upsampling, not the interpolation: Let's replace linear

[music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Douglas Repetto
Hi everyone, Douglas the list admin here. I've been away and haven't really been monitoring the list recently. It's been full of bad feelings, unpleasant interactions, and macho posturing. Really not much that I find interesting. I just want to reiterate a few things about the list. I'm loathe

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Michael Gogins
Thank you, Douglas. Regards, Mike - Michael Gogins Irreducible Productions http://michaelgogins.tumblr.com Michael dot Gogins at gmail dot com On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Douglas Repetto doug...@music.columbia.edu wrote: Hi everyone,

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Brad Fuller
On 08/22/2015 08:59 AM, Peter S wrote: Second, why take something off-list if it's related to the discussion? I agree, as long as one can present a professional attitude ___ music-dsp mailing list music-dsp@music.columbia.edu

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Richard Dobson
Ditto! Richard Dobson On 22/08/2015 16:50, Michael Gogins wrote: Thank you, Douglas. Regards, Mike ___ music-dsp mailing list music-dsp@music.columbia.edu https://lists.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/music-dsp

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Richard Dobson
I think this might be a bit too restrictive; there have been many highly informative exchanges here over the years, all well-considered, that have exceeded this limit. The key is surely well-considered - and the absence of egoic chest-beating! Richard Dobson On 22/08/2015 16:21, Douglas

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] list etiquette

2015-08-22 Thread Stefan Sullivan
Perhaps the knowledge that you might risk exceeding your limit (which I'm sure would not be pedantically enforced) would make you to consider for yourself how much the given message is contributing to the discussion. Thank you Douglas, for clarifying the etiquette and audience. It was needed and