[mb-style] Correcting errors vs. listing them as an artist credit?

2013-09-04 Thread Mike Morrison
have been treated simply as errors to be corrected, but now editors can choose to list the variant spelling as an artist credit. But based on the current documentation, I'm finding it difficult to know exactly how to choose. On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Mike Morrison m...@mikemorr.com wrote: Hi

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Revise SortNameStyle for artist names that contain a person's name

2009-03-07 Thread Mike Morrison
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Leiv Hellebo wrote: Paul C. Bryan wrote: Proposal: Change the last bullet of #6 in SortNameStyle to read as follows: Artist names that contain a person's name (usually eponymous band names) sort as the person primarily, with remaining identifiers as comma-separated

[mb-style] RFV: YouTubeRelationshipType wiki page

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Morrison
It's been two weeks since I opened the RFC [1] on the current revision [2] of this wiki page, and no changes have been suggested on this list in that time, so I am moving it to RFV. I will remove the work in progress and not official warning from the page after 48 hours, if there is no veto.

[mb-style] RFC: YouTubeRelationshipType wiki page

2009-02-16 Thread Mike Morrison
OK everyone, I don't know if the wiki page needs a formal RFC/RFV, since the RFV for the AR itself already passed, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. I've edited the wiki page per Muz's suggestion; here's the diff: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/YouTubeRelationshipType?action=diffrev2=2rev1=1 So

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Revised Comprehensive CSG Proposal::Current of the Proposal, part 2

2009-02-15 Thread Mike Morrison
Regarding punctuation: The following appears on both http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/BrianFreud/sandbox and http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/BrianFreud/sandbox4 (quote) Standard ASCII punctuation should always be used for the space , the full-colon :, the semi-colon ;, the hyphen-minus -, single

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Revised Comprehensive CSG Proposal::Current of the Proposal, part 2

2009-02-15 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Brian Schweitzer wrote: (1) Does this apply both to CSG-for-Works and CSG-for-Tracks? Much more works, I think. Tracks I would think we'd just be going from a) what is used on the liner, then b) normal MB-general style guidelines on punctuation/etc.

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Revised Comprehensive CSG Proposal::Current of the Proposal, part 2

2009-02-15 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009, Brian Schweitzer wrote: On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Mike Morrison mikem...@umich.edu wrote: In that case, can we change it to an explicit list? I'd change: Standard ASCII punctuation should always be used for the space , the full-colon :, the semi-colon

[mb-style] YouTubeRelationshipType wiki page

2009-02-15 Thread Mike Morrison
I've created a first draft of the wiki page for the new YouTube AR. Comments/edits, anyone? http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/YouTubeRelationshipType Mike ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] YouTubeRelationshipType wiki page

2009-02-15 Thread Mike Morrison
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009, Mustaqil Ali wrote: I wouldn't use the text has a YouTube page as this is rather ambiguous and may lead to the user linking, or attempting to link, video pages to that artist, which is not what's wanted. I'd rather using has an official YouTube channel at. I agree,

Re: [mb-style] Removing some instruments from the instrument tree

2008-05-15 Thread Mike Morrison
Re: winds, it is sometimes used as an abbreviation of woodwinds, but to my ear it is a very natural way to refer to the woodwinds and brass together. For example: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B03CSE The Cleveland Symphonic Winds http://www.music.umich.edu/departments/winds_perc/index.htm

Re: [mb-style] Removal of homeburnt discIds

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Morrison
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Philip J?genstedt wrote: I don't agree. If I see two discids I'll think that there are (at least) two pressings of the CD, not that someone ripped a CDR (from a friend or whatever) and used MusicBrainz to tag it. Peoples homemade discids are cruft and I applaud anyone who

Re: [mb-style] Removal of homeburnt discIds

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Morrison
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Paul C. Bryan wrote: In many areas of MB, we try to strike a balance between structural/factual strictness and utility. If someone burns an album downloaded from iTunes, Amazon, eMusic et al, shouldn't they be entitled to index those against releases indexed in MB? The

Re: [mb-style] placement of *CLASSIC OF THE MONTH* and *VOCAL OF THE MONTH*

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Morrison
On Tue, 6 May 2008, Sean Porter wrote: I'm not sure if anyone has heard of the Voices of Trance series, but they do a monthly trance mix, and I've been working on streamlining processes for efficiently reformatting and adding the releases to MB, but I'm not absolutely sure where I should

[mb-style] How long is an RFV supposed to stay open?

2008-05-05 Thread Mike Morrison
How long is an RFV supposed to stay open? I thought it was 48 hours per http://musicbrainz.org/doc/StyleCouncil but then I came across http://musicbrainz.org/doc/RelationshipEditor which says two weeks. Thanks warp, who said on IRC that a week should be fine, at least when it comes to the RFV

Re: [mb-style] RFV: SupportingMusicianRelationshipType OK for Groups

2008-05-05 Thread Mike Morrison
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Mike Morrison wrote: It having been one week with no additional comments on this Request For Comment, I am submitting it as a Request For Veto. My initial post on this topic: http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2008-April/006776.html My initial RFC

[mb-style] RFV: SupportingMusicianRelationshipType OK for Groups

2008-04-25 Thread Mike Morrison
It having been one week with no additional comments on this Request For Comment, I am submitting it as a Request For Veto. My initial post on this topic: http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2008-April/006776.html My initial RFC on this topic:

Re: [mb-style] Chorusmaster/Orchestra conductor

2008-04-20 Thread Mike Morrison
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: Last, while conductors are often well known, would a similar artist-artist Music Director AR for choirs and orchestras also be acceptable? Just one example, when I lived in Baltimore, I honestly could not have told you who the conductor of the BSO

Re: [mb-style] Chorusmaster/Orchestra conductor

2008-04-20 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Mike Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Isn't a Music Director usually also the primary conductor? How about this: An artist-artist AR that says Person conducted Group from StartDate to EndDate, to be used

[mb-style] RFC: SupportingMusicianRelationshipType OK for Groups (was: Can a group have supporting musicians?)

2008-04-18 Thread Mike Morrison
Thanks everyone for your artist examples! I am assuming, then, that all four of the following are theoretically acceptable, although the distinctions between membership, collaboration, and support might need to be decided on a case-by-case basis: Person supported Person Person supported Group

Re: [mb-style] Can a group have supporting musicians?

2008-04-17 Thread Mike Morrison
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Lauri Watts wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Mike Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/SupportingMusicianRelationshipType and http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicalAssociationRelationshipClass seem to say

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Works lists (and other related changes then implied)

2008-03-11 Thread Mike Morrison
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: The only objection I recall is the wording of the AR for works lists to tracks. Personally, it may sound overly academic, but I prefer is an instance of over contains a recording of, if only because I think, if/when we do add sessions as the NGS

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-03-01 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Leiv Hellebo wrote: The last month my focus has not been on fixing the CSG, but rather to say that I do not want us to standardise on one way of formatting one piece of classical (movement, lied etc.) in the CSGS pages and make this mandatory for how we should deal with

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-03-01 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: the question is, what are we going to do until then? For now, I think each track essentially needs two title fields: one for the TrackCoverText, and one for the CSG title. So I'm basically splitting the userbase into two groups and proposing a way

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-03-01 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: snip While there's perhaps some few 20th century classical composers someone might be able to point to, one thing classical composer generally have in common is that they didn't actually release LPs or CDs - or NATs. Perhaps it'd be simple to

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-03-01 Thread Mike Morrison
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: There's one other problem, and I'm not sure either suggestion really solves it - what to do then when you have two or more works on the same track? You could link them each as instances, but how does something trying to interpret that - the

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-02-29 Thread Mike Morrison
I have to ask, what is this official classical track title that we'd be preserving until and under NGS? One possible choice: Exactly what is printed on the cover; typos, inconsistencies, incomplete information and all. We could do this for non-classical music too if we want. Then those of

[mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-02-28 Thread Mike Morrison
OK, so once we have NGS everyone can have what they want, right? We'll have work titles and track titles. The work title can be full CSG(S), while the track title can be what's on the cover. So each track will have these two titles associated with it. For now, how about if we use the track

Re: [mb-style] CSG compromise?

2008-02-28 Thread Mike Morrison
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Aaron Cooper wrote: On 27-Feb-08, at 8:10 PM, Mike Morrison wrote: OK, so once we have NGS everyone can have what they want, right? We'll have work titles and track titles. The work title can be full CSG(S), while the track title can be what's on the cover. So each

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Various issues, redux

2008-02-04 Thread Mike Morrison
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Brian Schweitzer wrote: 2. Conductors, choir masters, orchestras, and choirs: Currently, we can set choir master and conductor for a release, but we cannot link them in an artist-artist relationship. Many conductors and choir masters are contracted by a group, sometimes