Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM Shachar Shemesh 
wrote:

> You forgot to answer about the lack of "Ragtime" category :-)
>
I don't know what it would take to create a new category.  I'd be all for
it but I don't have that authority.

> On 15/06/2018 16:08, Knute Snortum wrote:
>
> I would frown upon changing the pitch of a note that "sounds wrong" to you
> unless you have some evidence to back it up.  I would want the piece
> exactly how Joplin wrote it.  A footnote would be acceptable, I think.
>
>
> You do realize that there is a difference between "How Joplin wrote it"
> and "How it was first published", right?
>
> The case is not so obvious in The Easy Winners, but in Maple Leaf Rag
> there is a place where there is obviously a note they forgot to print while
> type-setting it. It is missing from the first seuence, but present in the
> second time the sequence is given one octave down. It is also present in
> the first sequence the second time the notes are given (the second time
> part A is played).
>
> As such, it is fairly obvious that the piece as published does not reflect
> how Joplin wrote it.
>
> Having said that, and assuming you're using the same source as me for the
> notes (the yellow book bundling all of Joplin's works), the editorial at
> the beginning claims they have already incorporated all erratas they could
> find.
>

As I said, if you have  evidence to backup the change, them make it.
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Re: [Mutopia-discuss] potential new contributor

2018-06-15 Thread Knute Snortum
I'll answer you as best I can.

No, you don't need separate files to post to Mutopia.  I know that with
some big pieces they release both the complete work and separate parts, but
using separate files to create a complex piece is a good thing.  I think
that the exact way to setup a complex piece to be usable as both separate
parts and a complete piece is not yet agreed upon -- I could be wrong.

If you're creating multipart sheet music with LilyPond, I think you're a
step above novice.  But if you'd like I'd be happy to look at your ly and
ily files and give you my comments.  But this is absolutely not required to
submit to Mutopia.  The two things I know are requirements are that your
submission be able to compile in both letter and a4 paper sizes without
warnings or errors, and that you're able to provide a source that is not
under copyright.  The first one may be difficult in your situation, but
honestly, I usually write my pieces to look good in letter and just work in
a4.  That's because I live in the US I guess.  Honestly, I don't know how a
well-typeset piece is expected to look good in two different paper sizes.
But that's a discussion for another day.

I hope to see your submission to Mutopia soon!

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:36 AM Nah  wrote:

> A little while ago, I started typesetting some pdf's I found on IMSLP.
> I've been doing it for my own personal use, primarily to make the music
> more readable for me on letter size paper. So I have some less than
> elegant lilypond files. To make them suitable for Mutopia, doe each
> piece need to be separated into its own file? For example, I typeset
> Louis Kohler's op 151, which consists of 12 lessons. I put each one in a
> .ily and the whole book as a master .ly file that includes all the
> lesson .ily files. I set it up this way so I could put an \allowPageTurn
> after each lesson and get the whole thing as a nice little book that I
> can comb bind. If the lessons need to be separated for Mutopia, are
> there some examples of how to set it up to make individual files with
> their midi files, and also make a complete book. And does Mutopia want
> the complete book?
>
> I'm still a relative novice with lilypond, and pretty inept with scheme.
> I have some competence with python, if that's relevant.
>
> Ultimately, I want to create some collections of graded works, 50 or so
> pages of grade 2, for example. A collection that might be useful for
> someone at grade 2 to use as practice material, or that someone at grade
> 3 can use for sight-reading.
>
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Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
 

On 15/06/2018 10:12, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 

> The existing file for Scott Joplin's "The Easy Winners" had a few mismatches 
> with the original publication. When I tried to fix those, I found that the 
> way the file was using voices made it almost uneditable. 
> 
> So I re-created, from the original notes, a setup for it. 
> 
> Now I've got a few questions: 
> 
> * I introduced an intentional inaccuracy for one note. The original note 
> sounds wrong, and it is also not anyone I found online plays the piece. Are 
> intentional changes acceptable?
> * The original file contained a footer. I found no reference to that footer 
> in the docs. I'm not sure whether I need to create it.
> * I think the name under which the file currently reside (winners) is not 
> particularly easy to find. In general, I think the project should standartize 
> on something (snake_notation, CamelNotation, actual spaces) and document it. 
> Should I rename?
> 
> As soon as I get an answer I can submit a pull request.

Also, I almost forgot: Is there a reason that there is no music category
for "Ragtime"? Categorizing a song written in 1901 as "Jazz" seems just
wrong. 

Shachar 
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[Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
 

The existing file for Scott Joplin's "The Easy Winners" had a few
mismatches with the original publication. When I tried to fix those, I
found that the way the file was using voices made it almost uneditable. 

So I re-created, from the original notes, a setup for it. 

Now I've got a few questions: 

* I introduced an intentional inaccuracy for one note. The original
note sounds wrong, and it is also not anyone I found online plays the
piece. Are intentional changes acceptable?
* The original file contained a footer. I found no reference to that
footer in the docs. I'm not sure whether I need to create it.
* I think the name under which the file currently reside (winners) is
not particularly easy to find. In general, I think the project should
standartize on something (snake_notation, CamelNotation, actual spaces)
and document it. Should I rename?

As soon as I get an answer I can submit a pull request. 

Thank you,
Shachar 
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