Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
 

On 15/06/2018 20:38, Knute Snortum wrote: 

> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM Shachar Shemesh  wrote: 
> 
>> You forgot to answer about the lack of "Ragtime" category :-)
> 
> I don't know what it would take to create a new category. I'd be all for it 
> but I don't have that authority.

https://github.com/MutopiaProject/MutopiaProject/pull/1000 

Submitted pull request. 

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Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-16 Thread David Kastrup
Knute Snortum  writes:

> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM Shachar Shemesh
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Having said that, and assuming you're using the same source as me for
>> the notes (the yellow book bundling all of Joplin's works), the
>> editorial at the beginning claims they have already incorporated all
>> erratas they could find.
>>
>
> As I said, if you have evidence to backup the change, them make it.

Sounds to me like his main evidence is discretion.  There is always the
option to print what you want and make a footnote mentioning "Original
publication has ...".

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Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:34 AM Shachar Shemesh 
wrote:

> You forgot to answer about the lack of "Ragtime" category :-)
>
I don't know what it would take to create a new category.  I'd be all for
it but I don't have that authority.

> On 15/06/2018 16:08, Knute Snortum wrote:
>
> I would frown upon changing the pitch of a note that "sounds wrong" to you
> unless you have some evidence to back it up.  I would want the piece
> exactly how Joplin wrote it.  A footnote would be acceptable, I think.
>
>
> You do realize that there is a difference between "How Joplin wrote it"
> and "How it was first published", right?
>
> The case is not so obvious in The Easy Winners, but in Maple Leaf Rag
> there is a place where there is obviously a note they forgot to print while
> type-setting it. It is missing from the first seuence, but present in the
> second time the sequence is given one octave down. It is also present in
> the first sequence the second time the notes are given (the second time
> part A is played).
>
> As such, it is fairly obvious that the piece as published does not reflect
> how Joplin wrote it.
>
> Having said that, and assuming you're using the same source as me for the
> notes (the yellow book bundling all of Joplin's works), the editorial at
> the beginning claims they have already incorporated all erratas they could
> find.
>

As I said, if you have  evidence to backup the change, them make it.
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Re: [Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
 

On 15/06/2018 10:12, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 

> The existing file for Scott Joplin's "The Easy Winners" had a few mismatches 
> with the original publication. When I tried to fix those, I found that the 
> way the file was using voices made it almost uneditable. 
> 
> So I re-created, from the original notes, a setup for it. 
> 
> Now I've got a few questions: 
> 
> * I introduced an intentional inaccuracy for one note. The original note 
> sounds wrong, and it is also not anyone I found online plays the piece. Are 
> intentional changes acceptable?
> * The original file contained a footer. I found no reference to that footer 
> in the docs. I'm not sure whether I need to create it.
> * I think the name under which the file currently reside (winners) is not 
> particularly easy to find. In general, I think the project should standartize 
> on something (snake_notation, CamelNotation, actual spaces) and document it. 
> Should I rename?
> 
> As soon as I get an answer I can submit a pull request.

Also, I almost forgot: Is there a reason that there is no music category
for "Ragtime"? Categorizing a song written in 1901 as "Jazz" seems just
wrong. 

Shachar 
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[Mutopia-discuss] I've re-created a ly file for Scott Joplin's The Easy Winners

2018-06-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
 

The existing file for Scott Joplin's "The Easy Winners" had a few
mismatches with the original publication. When I tried to fix those, I
found that the way the file was using voices made it almost uneditable. 

So I re-created, from the original notes, a setup for it. 

Now I've got a few questions: 

* I introduced an intentional inaccuracy for one note. The original
note sounds wrong, and it is also not anyone I found online plays the
piece. Are intentional changes acceptable?
* The original file contained a footer. I found no reference to that
footer in the docs. I'm not sure whether I need to create it.
* I think the name under which the file currently reside (winners) is
not particularly easy to find. In general, I think the project should
standartize on something (snake_notation, CamelNotation, actual spaces)
and document it. Should I rename?

As soon as I get an answer I can submit a pull request. 

Thank you,
Shachar 
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