Re: Putting table in email?

2012-11-23 Thread Christian Brabandt
Hi Christoph! On Mi, 21 Nov 2012, Christoph Möbius wrote: Also sprach Bernard Massot am Mi, 21 Nov 2012 um 00:18:09 +0100: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:37:11PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: Note the corners: periods on top, and ` ' on the bottom. IMHO, this looks better. But that IS just my

Re: Expiring Messages

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Sun 18.Nov'12 at 16:32:32 GMT ] This is a quick hack and untested beyond the basics, but feel free to work from it. It is, or should be, a complete reimplementation of Gary's script in Python. #!/usr/bin/env python import os import sys import time try:

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-23 Thread John Long
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes lock up in the middle of

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Peter Davis
On 11/22/12 9:57 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: .snip. Nope. Totally wrong. The responsibility is entire with the design and the code, and never with the user. Otherwise it's a failed product. You're

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:37:57PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 21 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one line. If the first line of a paragraph appears at the bottom of the screen as yours did then mutt displays All on

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one line. Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single newline

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: Apparently you're unaware of the last 30 or 40 years of human factors and usability research, or the fact that other people are using computers besides a bunch of ivory tower geeks who think users will follow whatever strictures and

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Peter Davis Wrote On Fri 23.Nov'12 at 14:27:23 GMT ] This will be my last comment on the subject, since straying off topic is, I think, a worse transgression than top posting or using long lines. I apologize for prolonging this. I'll try to be as explicit as I can, to clarify my views on

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 03:43:21AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail, from the From line to

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:17:27PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: At this time, the generally accepted assumption is to wrap at around 72--76 characters Right.. one million smokers can't be wrong. It's been pointed out that this number comes from scientific studies regarding the

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:27:23AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: However, I also recognize that mutt is, to a large extent, obsolete. Of course it still appeals to those who cling to the text/plain, 72-characters-per-line limit model from the 1970's, but that audience is a smaller and smaller

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Tony's unattended mail
On 2012-11-23, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:17:27PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: At this time, the generally accepted assumption is to wrap at around 72--76 characters =20 Right.. one million smokers can't be wrong. It's been pointed out

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Nov2012 10:42, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: | On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: | On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: | My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug | support. Is there any way to figure

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character rendering, so these dated ergonomics studies are not at odds with an unwrapped source text anyway. Two questions about variable width fonts, then First,

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Andre Klärner
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: Two questions about variable width fonts, then First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does handle them, but how? My version (1.5.21, according to mutt -v) Well, as mutt is a CLI application it

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: Two questions about variable width fonts, then First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does handle them, but how? My version

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Peter Davis
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012, at 08:22 PM, Jim Graham wrote: Ok, but if variable width is such a good thing, using the twisted logic that's been posted in this thread, every possible environment either supports it or it's crap...right? So it should even be supported by Mutt on a VT-100 terminal.

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Klärner wrote: So in most cases I have seen the terminal that renders the fonts is putting each character in a cell, so you get no benefit from using a variable width font, despite that it looks ugly in most cases. So I have come to the

how to enable mutt receive mail automaticlly?

2012-11-23 Thread horse_rivers
hi,     everytime  I need to shift-g to receive mail by mutt manully , which is not convenient,  so is there method to enable mutt receive mail  automaticlly?          if it can remind me about new mail ,I think it is  the best client tool ! thanks!

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Andre Klärner
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 07:22:13PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: Two questions about variable width fonts, then First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts?