On 05Jun2019 20:32, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Yeah, I'm a postfix person too. It is a lot more approachable. I tend
to put all my local settings at the top of /etc/postfix/main.cf and
you're basicly there.
That said, nullmailer looks like a great idea. This URL looks quite
encouraging:
On 09Jun2019 21:13, Frank Watt wrote:
I'll look into getmail which might avoid all the roadblocks so far
encountered. Thanks for the suggestions.
I use getmail. I get it to deliver to a spool Maildir, and monitor that
for new mail, which is then filtered.
Cheers,
Cameron Simpson
On 9/06/19 6:36 AM, Kurt Hackenberg wrote:
On 2019-06-07 05:08, Frank Watt wrote:
| However, fetchmail has a -m option, which can probably deliver directly
| to procmail, bypassing the local mail system entirely.
Looks like that's not as simple as I'd hoped.
I'm sort of jumping in blind
On 2019-06-07 05:08, Frank Watt wrote:
| However, fetchmail has a -m option, which can probably deliver directly
| to procmail, bypassing the local mail system entirely.
Looks like that's not as simple as I'd hoped.
I'm sort of jumping in blind here -- don't know exactly what you're
trying to
On 08Jun2019 02:42, Kurt Hackenberg wrote:
On 2019-06-08 00:41, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Well, the From_ isn't just a delimiter for mbox lines, it also
historically contains the envelope address from the mail system - the
address used for this delivery (versus whatever may be in the
headers).
On 2019-06-08 00:41, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Well, the From_ isn't just a delimiter for mbox lines, it also
historically contains the envelope address from the mail system - the
address used for this delivery (versus whatever may be in the headers).
It's the envelope sender address, who SMTP
On 07Jun2019 23:22, Kurt Hackenberg wrote:
On 2019-06-07 07:22, Cameron Simpson wrote:
If fetchmail's delivering to a programme, nothing prevents that being
an arbitrary script to premangle a leading From_ line. Hmm. I've got
a script in my bin directory called "unfrom_" for exactly this
On 2019-06-07 07:22, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Are you looking in mbox files or in other places. [...] Hmm, my maildir
message files also have From_ lines.
If fetchmail's delivering to a programme, nothing prevents that being an
arbitrary script to premangle a leading From_ line. Hmm. I've got
On 2019-06-07 05:08, Frank Watt wrote:
When I look at the headers of most mail, I see an mbox-style From
line. Where do we make use of the 'reformat -f0' and "Return-Path"
advice?
In the stream of data that ends up on the standard input of the delivery
agent (procmail, maildrop, whatever).
* Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 19:43]:
> On 07Jun2019 07:37, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]:
> > > It does look that way. I left procmail because I disliked its rule
> > > syntax,
> > > its totally regexp based matching system (ok for subject lines, ghastly
> > >
On 07Jun2019 07:37, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]:
It does look that way. I left procmail because I disliked its rule
syntax,
its totally regexp based matching system (ok for subject lines, ghastly for
email addresses) and the performance cost incurred by it
* Patrick Shanahan [06-07-19 07:38]:
> * Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]:
> [...]
> > How's fetchmail run by your system? Cron? Something else?
>
> not that fetchmail has a daemon, "fetchmail -d 150" runs every 150
> seconds.
s/not/note
--
(paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield,
* Cameron Simpson [06-07-19 07:24]:
[...]
> How's fetchmail run by your system? Cron? Something else?
not that fetchmail has a daemon, "fetchmail -d 150" runs every 150
seconds.
[...]
> It does look that way. I left procmail because I disliked its rule syntax,
> its totally regexp based
On 07Jun2019 21:08, Frank Watt wrote:
First of all, apologies for munging the thread: Gmail didn't deliver
Cameron's response. I had to get the text from the archives.
That seems to happen to me quite a bit. I harbour some suspicions to do
with years of maintaining the adzapper project
First of all, apologies for munging the thread: Gmail didn't deliver
Cameron's response. I had to get the text from the archives.
Cameron Simpson wrote:
[...]
| Procmail generally relies on being installed in the user's ~/.forward
| file to cause sendmail (the mail system) to deliver email
On 06.06.19 18:59, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> But nullmailer really sounds very promising - it has a queue and delivers to
> a smarthost, which is all most people really need on their personal
> machines.
That's about the size of it. But if a traditional mail set-up is valued,
it's only one config
On 06.06.19 20:47, Frank Watt wrote:
> I thought fetchmail had nothing to do with sendmail, but that evidently
> isn't the case. I installed nullmailer and fetchmail ceased to work.
» DESCRIPTION
fetchmail is a mail-retrieval and forwarding utility; it fetches
mail from remote
On 06Jun2019 20:47, Frank Watt wrote:
On 5/06/19 10:37 PM, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 21:30:51 +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
Would that really work? It's an attractive idea, avoiding the
complications of compiling new code with ancient functionality and
getting rid of
Thanks, Nathan,
On 5/06/19 10:37 PM, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote:
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 21:30:51 +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
[...]
Would that really work? It's an attractive idea, avoiding the
complications of compiling new code with ancient functionality and
getting rid of sendmail's
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 21:30:51 +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
> I wasn't clear. I'm quite content with an old mutt, but I've come to
> the end of the line with sendmail (which I can't get to work, though
> it used to work).
Ah! In that case, definitely don't try recompiling anything :)
> What I'm
On 05Jun2019 19:56, Erik Christiansen wrote:
On 05.06.19 21:30, Frank Watt wrote:
I wasn't clear. I'm quite content with an old mutt, but I've come to
the end of the line with sendmail (which I can't get to work, though
it used to work).
I'm impressed. When I finally switched to postfix
On 05.06.19 21:30, Frank Watt wrote:
> I wasn't clear. I'm quite content with an old mutt, but I've come to
> the end of the line with sendmail (which I can't get to work, though
> it used to work).
I'm impressed. When I finally switched to postfix around 15 years ago, I
thought I might be one
Christian Brabant wrote:
| On Di, 04 Jun 2019, Frank Watt wrote:
|
[.]
|
| > Were I to install nullmailer, it would remove sendmail, but is
| > that any use with a 9 year old mutt? I find everything I need in
| > it. Would it work to reinstall the old mutt deb after replacing
| >
On Di, 04 Jun 2019, Frank Watt wrote:
>
>
> On 4/06/19 1:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Frank Watt wrote:
> > >
> > > |You seem to be on x86_64 (or amd64 as debian calls it), so unless
> > > |you are building as 32-bit you don't need any of these.
> > > |
> > > |The -dev versions include
On 4/06/19 1:24 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
Frank Watt wrote:
|You seem to be on x86_64 (or amd64 as debian calls it), so unless
|you are building as 32-bit you don't need any of these.
|
|The -dev versions include headers, so you need those to compile, the
|more-basic versions are only the
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 06:50:15 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 12:24:33PM +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
> >configure: error: no curses library found
>
> I think Ken and Cameron covered the bases. However, on Debian based
> systems another good thing to run is
> apt-get
On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 21:51:25 +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
> On 2/06/19 9:07 PM, Jens John wrote:> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, at 05:36,
> > (Why not just upgrade your Debian or Ubuntu release?)
>
> There's nothing newer I can find:
> https://sources.debian.org/patches/mutt/1.5.23-3/
>
A better search
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 12:24:33PM +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
configure: error: no curses library found
I think Ken and Cameron covered the bases. However, on Debian based
systems another good thing to run is
apt-get build-dep mutt
It's not foolproof because of the version disparity and
On 03Jun2019 21:04, Frank Watt wrote:
Despite the confusing name,
aptitude install lib64ncurses5-dev:i386
got past the curses error message. But then I got this:
checking tcbdb.h usability... no
checking tcbdb.h presence... no
checking for tcbdb.h... no
checking villa.h usability... no
Ken Moffat wrote:
|Hi Frank,
|
| I assume you probably won't get this mail (gmail dislikes my mails
|from this address), but just in case ...
|
At least it got to the archives.
|[...]
|> p lib32ncurses5 - shared libraries for
|> terminal handling (32-bit)
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 12:24:33PM +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
>
> I had to leave out gpgme, but I had a problem with
>
> configure: error: no curses library found
>
Hi Frank,
I assume you probably won't get this mail (gmail dislikes my mails
from this address), but just in case ...
> There are
On 3/06/19 2:00 AM, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
[...]
Lastly, the latest mutt releases have started to bump up system
requirements:
* If your gpgme library is too old and you don't use gpgme,
you can just leave '--enable-gpgme' out.
* If your OpenSSL version is too old, you could try
On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 09:51:25PM +1200, Frank Watt wrote:
On 2/06/19 9:07 PM, Jens John wrote:> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, at 05:36,
Frank Watt wrote:
[1]
https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/mutt#n21
That's just the sort of information I was seeking.
On 2/06/19 9:07 PM, Jens John wrote:> On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, at 05:36,
Frank Watt wrote:
>> Am I to assume that I would have had sendmail in my environment at the
>> time the deb was installed? So I'd need to remove it so that I can
>> compile mutt with built-in SMTP. What else would I need
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019, at 05:36, Frank Watt wrote:
> Am I to assume that I would have had sendmail in my environment at the
> time the deb was installed? So I'd need to remove it so that I can
> compile mutt with built-in SMTP. What else would I need to bear in
> mind?
>
> I'm a bit apprehensive
I've used mutt for nearly 20 years, but since I install it from a deb
package, the latest version I have is 1.5.21 -- almost 9 years old.
I figured out enough of sendmail to use as an MTA, but it recently got
the better pf me. I've been informed that newer versions of mutt have
a built in SMTP
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