Re: Accents and other diacriticals - was Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:21:47PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 08:13:01PM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: > > > > Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just > > fine on my system. What I would like to know is how you type them on an > > English keyboa

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-06 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Sander Smeenk [2013-01-04 09:30:11 +0100]: > Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com): > > > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. > > > > FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian > > testing/wheezy). > > Your

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-05 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Sander Smeenk schrieb am 04.01.2013 um 9:30 Uhr: > I use urxvt wit the 'monospace' font: > URxvt.font:xft:monospace:pixelsize=13 > URxvt.boldFont:xft:monospace:bold:pixelsize=13 > URxvt.letterSpace: -1 > But we're diverging from mutt here ;-) SCNR! #v+ URxvt*locale: true URxv

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 09:22:24AM +0100, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > Personally i don't like 'dead' keys. Dead keys mean pressing ' does not > show ' immediately. You'd have to press ' to get '. Or 'e to > get é. I don't want that as i am an avid Perl coder. ;-) > Yes, I've got my netbook (with u

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Sander Smeenk: > Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com): > > > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. > > > > FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian > > Your font is probably lacking glyps. It shou

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com): > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. > > FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian > testing/wheezy). Your font is probably lacking glyps. It should show placeholders looki

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-04 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Dale A. Raby (daler...@gmail.com): > > Well, that's strange. Everyting is normal and expected then. > > Still your mutt pager shows strange characters when i type äççéñtṡ? > > > > Regards, > > -Sander. > > Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just > fine on my

Re: Accents and other diacriticals - was Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 06:21:47PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > > (I once list the control keys from my on kmap - only noticed > when ^C did nothing to stop a compilation). > Typo : I once _lost_ the control keys. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce

Accents and other diacriticals - was Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 08:13:01PM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: > > Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just > fine on my system. What I would like to know is how you type them on an > English keyboard. Is there some way to do that? > Yes, but it depends. In recen

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Michael, now it works! What I do: 1.) apt-get install libncursesw5-dev 2.) ./configure in my mutt directory 3.) make clean 4.) make 5.) make install 6.) Enjoy! :-) Wow!!! Thanks a lot to the whole mutt world! cheers andy [ Michael Elkins - 03.01.2013 16:45:34 ]: > On Thu, Jan 03, 20

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Andreas Hanke: > Good morning together, Buenos dias! Que pasa? > and thanks a lot for the lot of replies! This's always been a great list. I can't really offer much help on your specific problem other than to tell you what's working here and how, and offering suggestions. This's

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Michael Elkins
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:14:30AM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: 3.) I checked with aptitude the "libncurses5" and "libncursesw5" -> both is installed You need to make sure the development package is also installed. # apt-get install libncursesw5-dev Make sure to rerun mutt's configure scrip

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Andreas Hanke
Good morning together, and thanks a lot for the lot of replies! I try to give the feedback to several questions/ideas: 1.) 10 minutes ago I try to recompile my mutt, to make sure that the source is compiled with the same terminal settings like in the moment. But nothing becames better :-( 2.) Y

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Andreas Hanke
Good morning together, and thanks a lot for the lot of replies! I try to give the feedback to several questions/ideas: 1.) 10 minutes ago I try to recompile my mutt, to make sure that the source is compiled with the same terminal settings like in the moment. But nothing becames better :-( 2.) Y

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Will Fiveash
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:20:56AM +0100, Andrea Hanke wrote: > Hello together, > > I have a problem with mutt and charset configuration. > > I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: > > LANG=de_DE.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 > LC_TIME=de_DE

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-03 Thread Christian Ebert
* Michael Elkins on Thursday, January 03, 2013 at 01:14:16 + > Good catch. I just commmited a patch that will print > +/-NCURSES_WIDECHAR next to the ncurses version to make it clear which > lib mutt is compiled against. Not sure whether it gives reliable diagnostics everywhere: $ uname -mpr

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Sander Smeenk: > > No, serious, there has to be a problem with your mutt config and/or > terminal configuration, still. Can you perform a wget from the same > system mutt is running on? > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. I

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Dale A. Raby
> Well, that's strange. Everyting is normal and expected then. > Still your mutt pager shows strange characters when i type äççéñtṡ? > > Regards, > -Sander. Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber the umlaut characters disply just fine on my system. What I would like to know is how you type them on

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 07:41:26PM +0100, Andreas Kneib wrote: | http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/weechat-dev/2008-11/msg8.html | | Problem was link against libncurses instead of libncursesw. | I'll add warning with cmake when this library is not found (it's not | required, but recommended i

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Kneib [2013-01-02 19:53:27 +0100]: > * Michael Elkins schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 18:21 Uhr: > > > For the record, here are the pertinent parts of his `mutt -v' output: > > > ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) > > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Hanke [2013-01-02 16:24:50 +0100]: > Hi Sander, Hi other, > > thanks a lot for the feedback! > > I have the informations for you: > > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mut

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Michael Elkins schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 18:21 Uhr: > For the record, here are the pertinent parts of his `mutt -v' output: > ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET > +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR > +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONT

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Sander Smeenk schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 16:08 Uhr: > Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > > But if switch back to mutt the ü is an M-CM-< -> also in the menues. > > any ideas? > Read your mails with vim. :-)) :-D Mother Google give me this hint: , | | http://lists.gnu.org/a

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:12:05PM +, Michael Elkins wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:24:50PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8""

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
I don't see anything too out of the ordinary with your configuration, short of the sidebar patch. I don't know whether that patch would affect the display in the manner your described, but it would be helpful if you could tell me whether or not you see the same behavior with stock mutt, either

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 16:24 Uhr: > I have the informations for you: > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" > 4.) ":set encoding" in vim retu

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
:-( Yes, what I am seeing is: M-CM-$M-CM-'M-CM-'M-CM-)M-CM-1tM-aM-9M- But if I reply to your mail and open with vim, like in this moment: everthing works... wow... [ Sander Smeenk - 02.01.2013 17:10:13 ]: > Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > > > 1.) the "wget -qO- http:

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 04:24:50PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encoding=utf-8" 5.) ":set f

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" > 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encoding=utf-8" > 5.) ":set fileencodin

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Sander, Hi other, thanks a lot for the feedback! I have the informations for you: 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc 3.) ":set ?charset" in mutt returns "charset="utf-8"" 4.) ":set encoding" in vim return "encod

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Michael Elkins
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 03:59:48PM +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote: Hi Andreas, yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt And in vim it also works fine. When you are editing an email in vim, what are t

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. > Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt This message was once again sent with iso-8859-1 encoding. :) -Sndr. -- | Zebras are colored with light

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andreas Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > I am using vim. > And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" > Everthing in VIM is perfect. Okay. Your outgoing emails are perfectly okay now. Encoding is set to UTF-8 and the characters show correct on my terminal. Th

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Andreas, yes I am sure that I am using an terminal-emulater with utf8-support. Because into the terminal the äöü works fine -> without vim and mutt And in vim it also works fine. thanks andreas [ Andreas Kneib - 02.01.2013 15:51:19 ]: > * Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 15:35 U

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Andreas Hanke schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 15:35 Uhr: > And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" > Everthing in VIM is perfect. > But if I switch back to mutt every ü is an M-CM-< > Also in the mutt menue. Do you use a terminal-emulator with utf8-support? Andreas

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi Sander, thanks for the reply. I am using vim. And if I write an E-Mail, like now I could see the ü into your "Grüße" Everthing in VIM is perfect. But if I switch back to mutt every ü is an M-CM-< Also in the mutt menue. That is the point why I could not belive that this is problem with my

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andrea Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > OK I changed my /etc/default/locale etc. and now my locals: > LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 > And if I enter 'locale charmap' it shows: UTF-8. Good. That's part one. ;-) > But...mutt shows the ��� wrong, not just in any mails. also in the > mutt menue, for ex

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Hanke
Hi Sander, thanks a lot for your feedback: OK I changed my /etc/default/locale etc. and now my locals: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8" LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_N

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Andrea Hanke (andreas.ha...@r-kom.de): > I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: > LANG=de_DE.utf8 The correct way to write it is "de_DE.UTF-8". This might well be the source of your troubles. > LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 ^^ See it mixed here? > Al

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Nikola Petrov
On Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 10:20:56AM +0100, Andrea Hanke wrote: > Hello together, > > I have a problem with mutt and charset configuration. > > I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: > > LANG=de_DE.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 > LC_TIME=de_DE

Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Hanke
Hello together, I have a problem with mutt and charset configuration. I am working with Ubuntu and my local settings are there: LANG=de_DE.utf8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="de_DE.utf8" LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE="de_DE.utf8" LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.utf8" LC_P