parametres vers l'éditeur de textes

2002-09-17 Thread Hermitte Luc

Bonjour tout le monde,

Afin d'améliorer la souplesse de configuration d'un des mes ftplugins
pour vim (celui qui va chercher des alias mutt et permet de les ajouter
depuis vim), je me demandais si il était possible de fournir des
variables de configuration de mutt à vim.
Genre avoir dans mon .muttrc un truc du genre :
set editor = gvim -c 'let b:aliases_file=mutt:aliases_file|/^$/'

Merci d'avance.

-- 
Luc Hermitte



Re: Outgoing messages folder

2002-09-17 Thread Johan Svedberg

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:40:12PM -0500, David Rock wrote:
 As usual, Sven came through with a tidbit that does exactly what you
 want:
 
 fcc-save-hook . =Outgoing/%O
 
 This will save a copy to your outgoing folder and the %O represents:
 (_O_riginal save folder)  Where mutt would formerly have stashed
 the message: list name or recipient name if no list
 
 So in order for this to work properly (have %O represent what you want)
 you need to have these three things in your muttrc:
 
 set force_name=yes
 set save_name=yes (or set save_address=yes if you want the full address)
 fcc-save-hook . =Outgoing/%O
 
 I found this by accident in Sven's ToDo list toward the bottom of this
 page:
 http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html
 
 Where you can find info on the format strings is in section:
  6.3.83.  index_format

Ah, many thanks, both to you and Sven. :-)

Regards, Johan Svedberg



Send off all postponed messages

2002-09-17 Thread Alex Polite

I regularly  deal with mail when I'm away from my DSL pipe. Right now
I'm at the coffee shop and the postponed messages are piling up. When
I get back to the office I'd like to be able to
send-all-postponed-messages.


-- 
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http://plusseven.com/gpg/



Send off all postponed messages

2002-09-17 Thread Alex Polite

I regularly  deal with mail when I'm away from my DSL pipe. Right now
I'm at the coffee shop and the postponed messages are piling up. When
I get back to the office I'd like to be able to
send-all-postponed-messages.


-- 
Alex Polite
http://plusseven.com/gpg/



Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

* Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 14:24]:

 How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? What I
 usually do  now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and
 appropriate headers. 

Just send a new message to the list address,
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Dave Smith

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:20:09PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list?

The same way you compose a new message to a person - hit 'n' and type
the list address, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You may want to
cut-and-paste the list address, or configure it as an alias.

 What I
 usually do  now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and
 appropriate headers. 

Please DON'T do this.  Most MUAs (including mutt) use 'References:' and
'In-reply-to:' headers which can be used for threading.  This means
that your 'new' message ends up as part of another thread.  Since many
people who are on a number of high-traffic lists (like myself) use
delete-by-thread, you may find that you simply get ignored if you
happen to choose a thread that they're not interested in.

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Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Steve Kennedy

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:02:26PM +0100, Dave Smith wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:20:09PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list?
 The same way you compose a new message to a person - hit 'n' and type
 the list address, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You may want to
 cut-and-paste the list address, or configure it as an alias.

Of course 'm' might be better ...

Steve

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Re: Send off all postponed messages

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

* Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 14:20]:

 I regularly  deal with mail when I'm away from my DSL pipe. Right now
 I'm at the coffee shop and the postponed messages are piling up. When
 I get back to the office I'd like to be able to
 send-all-postponed-messages.

You want the functionality of an outbox, I suspect. This is not what
postponed is meant for (and therefore, this functionality will most
probably will not be added to mutt).

What about installing a simple SMTP daemon on your machine, which will
relay your emails to your office's mailserver, once you're back online?

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Re: Send off all postponed messages - tell you MTA

2002-09-17 Thread Sven Guckes

* Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 12:20]:
 I regularly  deal with mail when I'm away from my DSL pipe. Right now
 I'm at the coffee shop and the postponed messages are piling up. When
 I get back to the office I'd like to be able to
 send-all-postponed-messages.

the trick is to send them all right away -
and tell your MTA to really send them away
as soon as you have an internet connection.
so this is an MTA configuration problem.

Sven



Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Dave Smith

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:05:08PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:20:09PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list?
  The same way you compose a new message to a person - hit 'n' and type
  the list address, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You may want to
  cut-and-paste the list address, or configure it as an alias.
 
 Of course 'm' might be better ...

Picky. :-)

Yes, my fault.

Of course, I could have modified my keymapping...

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display of mailing lists in the index

2002-09-17 Thread Fernan Aguero

I've set up my muttrc to recognize the mailing lists I susbscribe to
using 'lists' and 'subscribe', and I've set the view of the index in
some mailboxes to show the name of the mailing list using %B.

Now my problem (and question):

I subscribe to several mailing lists that have names of the following
kind:

freebsd-ports
freebsd-questions
freebsd-security
freebsd-...

you get the idea. And I'd like %B to show 'ports', 'questions',
'security', removing the initial 'freebsd-' of the mailing list name.

My problem is that I store all freebsd related lists in the same folder
(Maildir). Thus I have a shared index for all FreeBSD related lists.
Given the width of the %B field, all I can see is [freebsd-] ... of
course I can make it wider, but I prefer to have more space for the
Subeject instead. And before you say anything about it, I know I can
store every list into its own mailfolder and get rid of %B altogether.
I just wanted to know if this is possible at all. 

Thanks in advance for any tip or suggestion,

Fernan

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http://genoma.unsam.edu.ar/~fernan



Re: display of mailing lists in the index - no string manipulation

2002-09-17 Thread Sven Guckes

* Fernan Aguero [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 14:08]:
 I've set up my muttrc to recognize the mailing lists I susbscribe to
 using 'lists' and 'subscribe', and I've set the view of the index in
 some mailboxes to show the name of the mailing list using %B.
 I subscribe to several mailing lists that have names of the following
 kind: freebsd-ports freebsd-questions freebsd-security freebsd-...

 And I'd like %B to show 'ports', 'questions', 'security',
 removing the initial 'freebsd-' of the mailing list name. [..]
 I just wanted to know if this is possible at all.

you cannot change those strings.  rename the lists instead. ;-)

Sven  [who keeps wondering if the maillists about other
   mailers get to see such requests *ever*]

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Re: display of mailing lists in the index - no string manipulation

2002-09-17 Thread David Rock

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 16:18]:
 Sven  [who keeps wondering if the maillists about other
mailers get to see such requests *ever*]

There are other mailers?

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Re: Send off all postponed messages

2002-09-17 Thread David Champion

* On 2002.09.17, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I regularly  deal with mail when I'm away from my DSL pipe. Right now
 I'm at the coffee shop and the postponed messages are piling up. When
 I get back to the office I'd like to be able to
 send-all-postponed-messages.

Some would say that this should be a function of your SMTP agent, not
your MTA. I think that, for once, I would agree. Set your MTA of choice
to queue outbound messages when you're off-line, and flush the queue
when you're on again.

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content-type and batch mode:problems with version 1.5i

2002-09-17 Thread Valerio Daelli

Few days ago I posted this message:

-vdaelli wrote:
- The only problem is that mutt always send the mail with a content--type:
- text/plain, while we would like to send a content-type: text/html.
- So the receiver sees the source HTML.
- Is there a way to override this default setting and let us send a
- personalized content-type?

Receiving as answer:


-This functionality exists in the Mutt 1.5 branch in CVS. There is now -a
-$content_type variable that lets you set the default content-type for
-the main body of the message. So you can do things like set the
-content-type from the command line:


-mutt -e 'set content_type=text/html' user_at_example.com  
-test.html


I downloaded the Mutt 1.5.1i (2002-05-02) version, patched it with 
patch-1.5.1.rr.compressed patch-1.5.1.smime.h patch-1.5.1.vvv.initials
patch-1.5.1.vvv.nntp patch-1.5.1.vvv.quote, and it compiled well...
but if I try:

# /usr/local/bin/mutt -e 'set content_type=text/html' 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  /home/info/mails/silvio.html

I still get:

#Error in command line: content_type: unknown variable

Could anyone please help me understand if I missed some patch or got the 
wrong version?
Thanx
Valerio



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Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread darren chamberlain

* Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 08:22]:
 How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? What I
 usually do  now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and
 appropriate headers. 

I have this in my config:

  subscribe   mutt-users@
  mailboxes   =lists/mutt-users 
  folder-hook =lists/mutt-users macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\

  subscribe   mutt-dev@
  subscribe   @bugs.guug.de
  mailboxes   =lists/mutt-dev 
  folder-hook =lists/mutt-dev macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\

When I hit m in my mutt folders, it executes the macro, with the
appropriate stuff filled in.

(darren)

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friendliness is quite simple: if this system was a person, how
long would it take before you punched it in the nose?
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Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman


I'm set up with mutt to bcc all sent data to
a local address that qmail puts in the proper
Maildir subdirectory. Thatz fine for mailing list posts. But
If I want to thread normal conversations, I can't see the whole
converstion without bouncing between my sent directory and
my inbox.

I set this up before I knew about set record=~/Maildir/sent/

Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
I send? Thanks.

JPK


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Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

Peter,

please send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]!

* PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 18:21]:

 Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
 without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
 I send? Thanks.

I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)

Is this what you meant?

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mutt.bak

2002-09-17 Thread Hanspeter Roth

Hello,

under certain circumstances after sending messages there appear
backup files of mutt in /tmp which name is mutt-host-pid-x.bak.
I have ispell set to `ispell -x' to tell ispell not to keep a backup
copy.
How can I make mutt to delete these files?

-Hanspeter



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:43:56PM +0200, René Clerc wrote:
 Peter,
 
 please send your questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
 
Oops!

 * PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 18:21]:
 
  Is there a way to thread full (non news group) conversations 
  without duplicating and maintaining 2 copies of every message 
  I send? Thanks.
 
 I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
 in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)
 
 Is this what you meant?

I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
So I wont try.

given:
1)message to Sally
2)reply from Sally
3)reply to reply from Sally.

My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
Message 2 goes into my inbox.

I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
and my sent folder.

That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
message I send to 2 places.

I could automatically duplicate replies to my sent folder.
That would also solve the Thread problem with a different
duplication scenario.

I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my
outgoing and incoming without duplicating any data.

Does your fcc-hooks do that? Thanks.

Regards,

[JPK]

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mailbox was externally modified

2002-09-17 Thread Keith R. John Warno

I use =sent-mail as $record.  When mutt is in =sent-mail and I forward
a message that is in =sent-mail, mutt claims Mailbox was externally
modified.  Flags may be wrong.  ``Externally''?  Um, ok.  The only
thing talking to =sent-mail is mutt itself.  What gives?

Cheers,
Keith.
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 Understand our fears
 -- Dream Theater, Blind Faith



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread Bruno Postle

On Tue 17-Sep-2002 at 01:20:09 -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
 
 My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
 Message 2 goes into my inbox.
 
 I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
 and my sent folder.
 
 That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
 message I send to 2 places.

Personally, I have stopped using separate 'sent' and 'received'
mailboxes.  It is much more natural to group mail by context - ie. a
separate mailbox for each job, project, relative etc..

 I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my outgoing and
 incoming without duplicating any data.

That isn't possible with mutt (though I _almost_ got it working by
misusing the compressed folders feature).

-- 
Bruno



mutt hangs on any editor

2002-09-17 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer

Any ideas?  Mutt hangs when I try to compose an email using any editor.
ps -u `whoami` shows that no editor process is being started.  I can
compose messages as SU.

Lance




Re: mutt hangs on any editor

2002-09-17 Thread darren chamberlain

* Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 13:48]:
 Any ideas?  Mutt hangs when I try to compose an email using any editor.
 ps -u `whoami` shows that no editor process is being started.  I can
 compose messages as SU.

What is $EDITOR set to?  Is something waiting on stdin?

(darren)

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Re: less-like behavior for search/search-next

2002-09-17 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann

Hi.

On Tue 2002-09-17 at 01:32:22 -0700, Jeremy Lin wrote:
[...]
 So how do people right now search for multiple occurences of a pattern
 anyway?

By pressing 'n', like in 'less'. :-)

Never noticed that re-searching for the same pattern does not find the
next match, like in less, because I never needed it. (well,
additionally, on german keyboards, '/' is 'SHIFT-7').

 By having separate bindings for search, search-next, and
 search-opposite?

Seems so. Default binding are '/', 'n' and 'ESC-/'.

HTH,

Benjamin.

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Help with installing mutt 1.4 on AIX

2002-09-17 Thread Bright, Frank

Hi,

We are trying to install mutt on AIX.  This is version 1.4 of mutt and AIX
4.3.3.  The zip is untarred but the program will not execute saying 

Error opening terminal: wy50.

Has anyone experienced this problem and how to solve it?

Thanks in advance!


Frank M. Bright, Jr.
Administrative Computing[EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of the Arts (A15)www.uarts.edu
320 S. Broad St.215-717-6081(w)
Philadelphia, PA   19102215-717-6087(f)
Colleague 16.461AIX 4.3.3 Unidata 5.139




Re: less-like behavior for search/search-next - macros

2002-09-17 Thread Sven Guckes

* Jeremy Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 10:38]:
 Is there a clean way to get less-like behavior for
 searching in the internal pager? In particular, I'd like
 search-next (or search) to prompt for a new search
 pattern, but keep the current as default, and move to
 the next match if one is already at the top of the screen.

so make command 'n' to first move one line down before searching again:
   macro  pager  n  next-linesearch\n

 Similarly for search-opposite. Ideally, this
 behavior would be a configuration variable.

ideally the internal would be less
plus the coloring of most, right?  ;-)

 So how do people right now search for
 multiple occurences of a pattern anyway?

one by one, i suppose.

 By having separate bindings for search,
 search-next, and search-opposite?

probably.

 P.S. Please cc me, as I'm not on the list.

please let your mutt tell us this by adding
lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your setup!
(and read my sig)

Sven

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Re: mutt.bak - rm

2002-09-17 Thread Sven Guckes

* Hanspeter Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 17:11]:
 under certain circumstances after sending messages there appear
 backup files of mutt in /tmp which name is mutt-host-pid-x.bak.
 I have ispell set to `ispell -x' to tell ispell not to keep
 a backup copy.  How can I make mutt to delete these files?

mutt is not supposed to delete backup files.
use rm with crontab or whatever.

Sven



Re: mutt.bak

2002-09-17 Thread Brett Sanger

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 07:10:21PM +0200, Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 Hello,
 
 under certain circumstances after sending messages there appear
 backup files of mutt in /tmp which name is mutt-host-pid-x.bak.
 I have ispell set to `ispell -x' to tell ispell not to keep a backup
 copy.
 How can I make mutt to delete these files?

I don't know if this covers your exact problem, but it sounds close:

Mutt FAQ: 
Mutt leaves files called mutt.host.123.234~ or mutt.host.123.234.bak
behind it!

This is your editor, not Mutt. It is probably a good idea to modify your
editor so it won't create backup files for your mails. If you use Emacs,
you can put a line like this in your .muttrc: 

set editor = /usr/bin/emacs %s --eval '(setq make-backup-files nil)'

I have been told that Emacs users gain efficiency by using emacsclient
instead of emacs, which will use an existing Emacs session instead of
firing up a new instance. Vim won't leave backups behind it by default.

Liviu Daia [EMAIL PROTECTED] adds: 

Apart from the editor, Ispell can be another source of stale backup
files in $tmpdir: by default, Ispell doesn't delete the files with names
longer than 14 characters, and the temporary files created by Mutt may
have longer names; in order to fix this, the definition of MAXNAMLEN
in the file config.X in the Ispell sources has to be modified to 1024
(or whatever is the limit on the current system), and Ispell must be
recompiled; 

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Re: mailbox was externally modified

2002-09-17 Thread Sven Guckes

* Keith Warno [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 17:35]:
 I use =sent-mail as $record.  When mutt is in =sent-mail and I forward
 a message that is in =sent-mail, mutt claims Mailbox was externally
 modified.  Flags may be wrong.  ``Externally''?  Um, ok.  The only
 thing talking to =sent-mail is mutt itself.  What gives?

the forwarded message is outbound mail,
so it gets to =sent-mail, too; therefore
=sent-mail gets modified (externally).
by mutt, of course.  all clear now?

Sven



Re: Index text weirdness

2002-09-17 Thread Alain Bench

Hello Michael and Ken,

 On Monday, September 16, 2002 at 10:42:52 PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:

 Ken Weingold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
 Why is it that someone's name with a tilde 'a' in it comes out like
 the following in the index, but in the pager it's fine?
 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_T. _da_Costa?=

What mailer generated this header? It's broken: there is a space in
the encoded word, and there is no email address. With a stock 1.4 both
in index and pager it appears as-is, undecoded. With the
decode_2047_invalid patch, it appears as you describe: decoded in pager,
but not in index... Perhaps because there is no address there?

I don't believe there is a Mutt side solution.


 Try setting rfc2047_parameters.

That's for attachment filenames.


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Re: Help with installing mutt 1.4 on AIX

2002-09-17 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 03:08:04PM -0400, Bright, Frank wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We are trying to install mutt on AIX.  This is version 1.4 of mutt and AIX
 4.3.3.  The zip is untarred but the program will not execute saying 
 
 Error opening terminal: wy50.

perhaps it was compiled with the location of the terminfo directory set
to a nonstandard location (or uses libraries that aren't compatible with
AIX's terminfo).  There are a few possibilities.  Running 'strings' on
the binary should show terminfo and/or termcap.  If it shows only
the former, it is compiled against curses or ncurses; setting TERMINFO
to something like /usr/lib/terminfo may fix it.  If the latter (termcap),
it won't work with AIX's terminfo, but requires a termcap file.
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem and how to solve it?
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
 Frank M. Bright, Jr.
 Administrative Computing  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 University of the Arts (A15)  www.uarts.edu
 320 S. Broad St.  215-717-6081(w)
 Philadelphia, PA   19102  215-717-6087(f)
 Colleague 16.461  AIX 4.3.3 Unidata 5.139

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Re: mutt hangs on any editor

2002-09-17 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer

$EDITOR is set to zile.  It used to work fine.  Something just recently has 
happened but I can't think of anything that I have done except run programs.

What do you mean is something waiting on stdin?  How do I check?

Lance

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 12:57 pm, darren chamberlain wrote:
 * Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 13:48]:
  Any ideas?  Mutt hangs when I try to compose an email using any editor.
  ps -u `whoami` shows that no editor process is being started.  I can
  compose messages as SU.

 What is $EDITOR set to?  Is something waiting on stdin?

 (darren)



Re: Index text weirdness

2002-09-17 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002, Alain Bench wrote:
  From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_T. _da_Costa?=
 
 What mailer generated this header? It's broken: there is a space in
 the encoded word, and there is no email address. With a stock 1.4 both
 in index and pager it appears as-is, undecoded. With the
 decode_2047_invalid patch, it appears as you describe: decoded in pager,
 but not in index... Perhaps because there is no address there?
 
 I don't believe there is a Mutt side solution.

Oh, there was a real address, I just didn't paste it in. ;)  I hate to
say it, but it was Outlook doing it.  It's the tilde-a, though.  The
guy took it out and the name came out no problem.



-Ken



Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Alex Polite

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 12:11:27PM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
 
 I have this in my config:
 
   subscribe   mutt-users@
   mailboxes   =lists/mutt-users 
   folder-hook =lists/mutt-users macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
 
   subscribe   mutt-dev@
   subscribe   @bugs.guug.de
   mailboxes   =lists/mutt-dev 
   folder-hook =lists/mutt-dev macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
 
 When I hit m in my mutt folders, it executes the macro, with the
 appropriate stuff filled in.
 

Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
-- 
Alex Polite
http://plusseven.com/gpg/




Re: mutt.bak

2002-09-17 Thread Hanspeter Roth

  On Sep 17 at 15:43, Brett Sanger spoke:

 Mutt FAQ: 
 Mutt leaves files called mutt.host.123.234~ or mutt.host.123.234.bak
 behind it!
 
 This is your editor, not Mutt. It is probably a good idea to modify your
 editor so it won't create backup files for your mails. If you use Emacs,

My editor is Vim and I have nobackup for mutt-*.

 firing up a new instance. Vim won't leave backups behind it by default.

I have backups in Vim for most files except for a few ones like mutt-*,
crontab*.

 Liviu Daia [EMAIL PROTECTED] adds: 
 
 Apart from the editor, Ispell can be another source of stale backup
 files in $tmpdir: by default, Ispell doesn't delete the files with names

Yes, they probably come from Ispell.
Just with `ispell -x' it shouldn't leave a backup file.
And this works most of the time.

 longer than 14 characters, and the temporary files created by Mutt may
 have longer names; in order to fix this, the definition of MAXNAMLEN
 in the file config.X in the Ispell sources has to be modified to 1024
 (or whatever is the limit on the current system), and Ispell must be
 recompiled; 

I'll try it.
Thanks.

-Hanspeter




Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread René Clerc

* PeterKorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-09-2002 19:21]:

 On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:43:56PM +0200, René Clerc wrote:

  I use procmail (which puts incoming mails in the correct folder)
  in combo with fcc-hooks (which put outgoing mails in the same folder)
  
  Is this what you meant?
 
 I think I can correctly interpret what you said in more than 1 way.
 So I wont try.
 
 given:
 1)message to Sally
 2)reply from Sally
 3)reply to reply from Sally.
 
 My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
 Message 2 goes into my inbox.

fcc-hook will store _any_ message to Sally in the folder which you
specify (probably sally).

If you configure procmail correctly, it can deliver every message
_from_ Sally in that same folder.

 I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my
 outgoing and incoming without duplicating any data.

? (is this what Bruno means?)

 Does your fcc-hooks do that? Thanks.

I think so ;)

 Regards,
 
 [JPK]

Dito,

-- 
René Clerc  - ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
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Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Will Yardley

Dave Smith wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:20:09PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list?

 The same way you compose a new message to a person - hit 'n' and type
 the list address, e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You may want to
 cut-and-paste the list address, or configure it as an alias.

Presumably if you use the patch which has RFC 2369 support, there might
be a 'list-post' option, which would be nice In fact, mutt could
probably add a 'list-post' option (which would post a new message to
list(s) existing in the current message.
 
  What I usually do  now is push L for list-reply the remove the
  body and appropriate headers. 

 Please DON'T do this.  Most MUAs (including mutt) use 'References:' and
 'In-reply-to:' headers which can be used for threading.  This means
 that your 'new' message ends up as part of another thread.  Since many
 people who are on a number of high-traffic lists (like myself) use
 delete-by-thread, you may find that you simply get ignored if you
 happen to choose a thread that they're not interested in.

If you remove 'In-Reply-To' (which the OP may certainly consider an
appropriate header), Mutt won't generate the References headers
either, and threading won't be broken. As long as you remove
'In-Reply-To' and change the subject, I don't see a problem with this
approach.

-- 
Will Yardley
input: william  @ hq . newdream . net . 




Re: New mail to list.

2002-09-17 Thread Rob Park

Alas! darren chamberlain spake thus:
 * Alex Polite [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-09-17 08:22]:
  How do I start composing a new message to a mailing list? What I
  usually do  now is push L for list-reply the remove the body and
  appropriate headers. 
 
 I have this in my config:
 
   subscribe   mutt-users@
   mailboxes   =lists/mutt-users 
   folder-hook =lists/mutt-users macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
 
   subscribe   mutt-dev@
   subscribe   @bugs.guug.de
   mailboxes   =lists/mutt-dev 
   folder-hook =lists/mutt-dev macro index m \mail[EMAIL PROTECTED]\
 
 When I hit m in my mutt folders, it executes the macro, with the
 appropriate stuff filled in.

That's awfully restrictive. What if you were in another mbox and you
wanted to mail mutt-users?

I just use an alias, and send mail normally.

-- 
Rob Park
http://www.ualberta.ca/~rbpark
--
How do I type for i in *.dvi do xdvi $i done in a GUI?
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Re: mutt hangs on any editor

2002-09-17 Thread Rob Park

Alas! Lance Hoffmeyer spake thus:
 $EDITOR is set to zile.  It used to work fine.  Something just recently has 
 happened but I can't think of anything that I have done except run programs.

What happens if you simply type 'zile' at the command prompt?

-- 
Rob Park
http://www.ualberta.ca/~rbpark
--
The world is not octal despite DEC.



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searching

2002-09-17 Thread MindFuq

I'm thinking about switching to mutt.  

Major deterrant: the crappy search functionality.  

When my index is displayed and I press / to do a search, it only searches 
the screen.  If I want to search message bodies, it seems I have to open each 
message and do the search;  not practical if I have a mailbox containing over 
a hundred messages.  Am I missing something?



Re: Thread Display

2002-09-17 Thread PeterKorman

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:39:08PM +0100, Bruno Postle wrote:
 On Tue 17-Sep-2002 at 01:20:09 -0400, PeterKorman wrote:
  
  My current method places messages 1 and 3 in my sent folder.
  Message 2 goes into my inbox.
  
  I could automatically put everything I send in both my inbox
  and my sent folder.
  
  That would solve the thread problem. But would duplicate each
  message I send to 2 places.
 
 Personally, I have stopped using separate 'sent' and 'received'
 mailboxes.  It is much more natural to group mail by context - ie. a
 separate mailbox for each job, project, relative etc..
 
  I guess I need a kind of virtual folder that joins my outgoing and
  incoming without duplicating any data.
 
 That isn't possible with mutt (though I _almost_ got it working by
 misusing the compressed folders feature).
 
 -- 
 Bruno

I guess since I'm running on linux, with Maildir, I could brute force
the solution by creating a hard link to all replies in my sent folder.
Is there any caviat associated with something like this? Thanks.

[JPK]

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Re: searching

2002-09-17 Thread Ken Weingold

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002, MindFuq wrote:
 I'm thinking about switching to mutt.  
 
 Major deterrant: the crappy search functionality.  
 
 When my index is displayed and I press / to do a search, it only searches 
 the screen.  If I want to search message bodies, it seems I have to open each 
 message and do the search;  not practical if I have a mailbox containing over 
 a hundred messages.  Am I missing something?

You are missing a HUGE something.  Look at
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2 for all your
search options.


-Ken