Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:28:29AM -, Tavis Ormandy wrote: Hello, long time mutt user here - I've always hard wrapped my lines at 72 columns for as long as I can remember. The problem is popular modern mobile and web-based MUAs don't handle this and can make unexpected linewrap decisions.

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread José María Mateos
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 03:43:37PM +0200, Angel M Alganza wrote: Perhaps if there was a way to configure Mutt to wrap long lines while reading mail with them and Vim to do the same (visually but not actually including the new lines) while editing they would be bearable for us who preffer wrapped

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Tavis Ormandy
On 2022-08-29, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > Maybe text/plain format=flowed is a solution. It's displayed > correctly by software that assumes format=fixed (on a screen that's > wide enough), and at any width by software that understands > format=flowed. Mutt can display format=flowed correctly at

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Angel M Alganza
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 07:10:14AM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote: omitting newlines from internal line breaks in paragraphs has proved to be a much better compromise than including them. It displays much better in a wide array of clients, especially modern ones (webmail clients, mobile clients),

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread John Hawkinson
Kurt Hackenberg wrote on Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 02:58:32 EDT in : > If you put a newline only at the end of a paragraph, it won't be displayed > correctly by software that doesn't expect that. Such software will probably > either break each line exactly at the right margin, maybe in the middle of

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Tavis Ormandy
On 2022-08-29, Logan Rathbone wrote: > On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:43:45AM EDT, Tavis Ormandy wrote: >> No, format=flowed sounds like the perfect solution but I've tested and >> as far as I can tell it's ignored by gmail on Android, for example. > > FWIW, the solution/compromise I ended up using

Re: Having problems with POP3 setup

2022-08-29 Thread X Tec
I think I kind of sorted the "not a mailbox" issues: each mailbox seems to have its own defined directory tree, which will give the aforementioned error if not found, or will alternatively be created but only when the mailbox is really being used for the first time. So I had to do this: mkdir

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On 2022/08/29 13:28, Logan Rathbone wrote: Do phone mail readers understand text/plain format=flowed? No, format=flowed sounds like the perfect solution but I've tested and as far as I can tell it's ignored by gmail on Android, for example. So now we know about Gmail. What about other

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Logan Rathbone
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:43:45AM EDT, Tavis Ormandy wrote: > On 2022-08-29, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > > Maybe text/plain format=flowed is a solution. It's displayed > > correctly by software that assumes format=fixed (on a screen that's > > wide enough), and at any width by software that

Re: Is linewrap dead?

2022-08-29 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 08:49:50PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote: I have not shaken the feeling that maybe I should learn how to compose format=flowed messages, but I guess it's not worth the trouble -- or at least I never managed to get it to work right. And yes, I toggle M-x visual-line-mode