looking-up replies
Hi all, is there a way to look for what I replied when I read older mails? Of course it is possible to switch to sent-mail and look for the right mail, but this is not really comfortable. I wonder if there is a function/key which opens the sent-mail-folder and shows what I replied. If this is not implemented it would be a really great improvement. Greetings Dirk
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
On 1999-10-07 03:46:59 -0200, Frederic L . W . Meunier wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't think implementing this would be a bad idea. We don't believe it's necessary. The Debian GNU/Linux folks have a nice program called ssmtp, which gives you a simple SMTP client which imitates sendmail's command line. Note that you don't have to wade through binary packages, just go for ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/source/mail/ssmtp* or something like this. You get the idea. Installation of this smtp client is quite simple, as is compiling it. In addition, you can _very_ easily configure postfix for a simple client site.
[FIX] mutt segfaults + gdb output
On 1999-10-07 00:04:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I tried today with several combinations. Removing .muttrc (with
my my_hdr settings) did not change a thing, just like removing
_any_ header. However, inserting the Message-Id: field _did_ cure
the problem: I could reply again! So, somewhere besides the
previous patch, mutt is dependant on having a Message-Id: field. I
don't know how to find this place though...
Ah, ok, please try this patch instead of my previous one.
% diff -u send.c.orig send.c
--- send.c.orig Thu Oct 7 09:11:17 1999
+++ send.c Thu Oct 7 09:11:45 1999
@@ -566,20 +566,23 @@
env-subject = safe_strdup ("Re: your mail");
/* add the In-Reply-To field */
-snprintf (buffer, sizeof (buffer), "In-Reply-To: %s",
- cur-env-message_id);
-
-tmp = env-userhdrs;
-while (tmp tmp-next)
- tmp = tmp-next;
-if (tmp)
+if (cur-env-message_id)
{
- tmp-next = mutt_new_list ();
- tmp = tmp-next;
+ snprintf (buffer, sizeof (buffer), "In-Reply-To: %s",
+ cur-env-message_id);
+
+ tmp = env-userhdrs;
+ while (tmp tmp-next)
+ tmp = tmp-next;
+ if (tmp)
+ {
+ tmp-next = mutt_new_list ();
+ tmp = tmp-next;
+ }
+ else
+ tmp = env-userhdrs = mutt_new_list ();
+ tmp-data = safe_strdup (buffer);
}
-else
- tmp = env-userhdrs = mutt_new_list ();
-tmp-data = safe_strdup (buffer);
if(tag)
{
Re: Charsets
Timur Mustakimov:
I have the following problem with mutt. It doesn't show cyrillic chars, although my
terminal, which in mutt is running shows them very nice. Mutt change all of them to
'?'. What do i need to set ? Charset is koi-8r.
Check that you really did install the charsets ("make install" should
do it but some people try to install by hand instead) and tell mutt:
set charset="koi8-r"
Re: installing mutt without root privilege
I think what you'll have to do is configure mutt with --prefix set to
the actual path you will eventually install to. Then, you'll have to
recreate the actions that 'make install' would have performed ('make -n
install' would probably be helpful here), using your 'cscp' program.
Telling a package's installation script to install stuff in a location
different from where it will eventually be installed is a standard
problem: all Debian packages are built this way, I think. So you
almost certainly don't have to study the output of make -n install and
do your own program. In the case of mutt, I think what you have to do
is something like:
$ ./configure --prefix=/final/location
$ make
$ make DESTDIR=/temporary/location install
This is from glancing at the Makefile; I haven't tried it. If it
doesn't work you could look at Debian's source package diff; the same
problem will have been solved there.
By the way, can anyone say if this use of DESTDIR is reasonably
standard? It would be nice of all/most packages had the same way of
doing this ...
Edmund
Re: looking-up replies
Op do. 07 okt 1999 09:18:26 zei Dirk Huebner: Hi all, is there a way to look for what I replied when I read older mails? Of course it is possible to switch to sent-mail and look for the right mail, but this is not really comfortable. I wonder if there is a function/key which opens the sent-mail-folder and shows what I replied. If this is not implemented it would be a really great improvement. Greetings Dirk For what it's worth, what I do is set my fcc-save-hooks so that saved and outgoing emails from/to the same person are put in the same folder where they are nicely threaded. stasinos
Re: my_hdr From vs set use_from
David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* When replying, use whatever address was used to send me
mail... (that is what use_from does)
The use_from variable does NOT do that. The variable you're looking for
is called reverse_name.
Yes, sorry... I was reading thru the docs, and use_from got stuck on
my head...
In order for this variable to work properly, though, I believe your
$alternates regexp must match any addresses that could be sent to you.
yes, it's properly set up.
This way Mutt will know what addresses to recognize and include in the
reverse_name behavior.
I have a better idea of what I want now...
* Use reverse_name when replying, always. For example, if
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sends me an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but my send hook
says mutt should use [EMAIL PROTECTED] when sending mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be used, not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (reverse_name does this, but not quite)
* I want to use my bigfoot address with friends and such, because
it's easier for them to remember (send-hook does this, and it seems
to take precedence over reverse_name, am I wrong?)
* Use my university's address otherwise ("send-hook ." takes care of
this, but it overrides reverse_name, it seems)
Is it possible to do want I want?
TIA and sorry about the noise,
Marcelo
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999: AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to configure it is set the remote mailhub's hostname. So how large is sSMTP anyway? Would it be possible to include it with mutt? Seems a bit of waste as not everyone needs it, yes, but then again if it's small and if some significant number of people would benefit from it, then it might be worthwhile. At the very least, shouldn't sSMTP be linked from somewhere like http://www.mutt.org/download.html on the mutt site? (And urlview too, while we're at it...) At the moment, the link can be found at the very bottom of http://www.mutt.org/links.html, which isn't very promiment. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / After the prices hit the ceiling they go through the roof.
Re: running procmail on popped mail [OT]
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 05:40:20PM +0530, Raju K V wrote: hi, This is slightly offtopic. I pop my mails from machine X and read it on machine Y. But I dont have permission to run any command on machine X. So, how can I run procmail of machine Y on any mails that I have popped? Use fetchmail to pop mail off X which in turn re-injects the messages into postfix/sendmail/qmail on Y which can then run procmail. -- Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb Real programmers never work 9 to 5. If any real programmers are around at 9 am, it's because they were up all night. PGP signature
Re: running procmail on popped mail [OT]
Raju K V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999: I pop my mails from machine X and read it on machine Y. But I dont have permission to run any command on machine X. So, how can I run procmail of machine Y on any mails that I have popped? You can't with Mutt's pop support. You need to use a program such as fetchmail to retrieve your mails from the POP server and let that invoke procmail on your computer. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / [Please insert a quarter in Drive A: for the next signature quote.]
Compile errors: mutt1.0pre3 with compressed folders patch
Hi, this is the first time ever I try to compile mutt. My system is Debian 2.1 (Linux 2.0.36). I followed these steps: - cp and untar/unzip mutt-1.0pre3i.tar.gz to the /tmp directory - cp and gunzip patch-1.0pre3.rr.compressed.2 in the mutt-1.0pre3 dir - apply the patch: patch -p0 patch-1.0pre3.rr.compressed.2 - configure (not sure if the config options are right). The ones I have with 0.95.6i (.deb binary installation) are: System: Linux 2.0.36 [using slang 10202] Opciones especificadas al compilar: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP5 +HAVE_PGP2 +HAVE_GPG -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" _PGPPATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV2PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" _PGPV3PATH="/usr/bin/pgp" and the ones I give now are: /tmp/mutt-1.0pre3# ./configure --with-sharedir="/usr/share/mutt" --with-slang --with-mailpath="/var/spool/mail" --with-homespool --enable-pop --with-regex --enable-locales-fix --enable-exact-address --with-charmaps="/usr/share/i18n/charmaps" --enable-PGP2 --enable-PGP5 --enable-GPG --enable-compressed - run make ... where I see some error about po needing compress.c ... in fact I see no compress.c anywhere. -- Horacio LC_mutt=es_ES mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://carlotha.ciberia.es/mutt/ ~ Spain ~ Spanje ~ Spanien
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
Quoting Tim Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:31:39AM -0400:
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:51:55PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Raju K V [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
sendmail or any other MTA, can I use another machine as smtp host? I am
looking for something equivalent to pine's smtp-server option.
When you have pine doing this, your machine /does/ have SMTP capabilities
and an MTA installed - Pine. Pine speaks SMTP to the remote host you
specify to get the message there.
Mutt doesn't believe in wasting developers' time and bloating the code base
this way. There are plenty of real MTAs out there, get one of them.
It doesn't seem to me that a simple SMTP delivery-only client should
have to involve a great deal of code, and it could certainly be made a
compile-time option.
Seems silly considering all of the other alternatives. Like this:
#!/usr/bin/perl -wT
# little smtp smarthost-relay to quiet mutt-users
# 1999/10/07 Rich Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Use this under the same terms as Perl itself. No warranty.
use strict;
use Net::SMTP;
use Net::Domain;
# Change this line!
my $smarthost = "clyde.concordia.ca";
my $smtp = Net::SMTP-new($smarthost, Debug = 1);
my $me = $ENV{USER} . '@' . Net::Domain::hostfqdn();
$smtp-mail($me) or die "Invalid sender\n";
foreach my $recipient (@ARGV) {
if ($recipient ne "--") {
$recipient .= "." . Net::Domain::hostdomain()
unless $recipient =~ /\./;
$smtp-to($recipient) || warn "Invalid recipient\n";
}
}
$smtp-data() or die "Can't make a message\n";
while (STDIN) { $smtp-datasend($_) or die Can't make a message (c)\n"; }
$smtp-dataend() or die "Message delivery refused\n";
$smtp-quit or warn "SMTP session terminated abnormally\n";
__END__
I see at least two significant advantages to having SMTP delivery
support built directly into the client:
* Many ISPs, as a spam prevention measure, require all mail delivery
to go through their smarthost. Configuring an MTA to use a
smarthost is not always trivial.
* More generally, configuring an MTA when you are not thoroughly
familiar with it can introduce security risks.
This is not true. A daemon, perhaps, but if you install ssmtp in ~/bin and
make it only executable by you, the security risks are less than those of,
say, rm.
I don't think it's
a feature if Mutt's design promotes more machines being set up as,
say, open relays, even indirectly.
Mutt *does not send over port 25*. There's no way that you could use
an ssmtp-configured machine as a relay because *it doesn't accept mail*.
It just sends it on its way. Whether or not a machine receives mail over
smtp is completely orthogonal to mutt.
If we decide to include SMTP, I'm going to rally for UUCP and
PMDF-over-DECnet support. :-)
and Chief Hacking Officer
Puh-lease.
-r.
--
-- Rich Lafferty ---
Sysadmin/Programmer, Information and Instructional Technology Services
Concordia University, Montreal, QC (514) 848-7625
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Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
Mikko Hänninen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999: AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to configure it is set the remote mailhub's hostname. So how large is sSMTP anyway? Would it be possible to include it with mutt? Seems a bit of waste as not everyone needs it, yes, but then again if it's small and if some significant number of people would benefit from it, then it might be worthwhile. I'm sure a significant number of newbies also don't have a terminal program they like and may not have a working terminal library (ncurses/slang) and lynx for HTML mails and procmail and heck they might not even have a working Unix distribution so should we include that too? And don't forget any libraries each of those things depends on... At the very least, shouldn't sSMTP be linked from somewhere like http://www.mutt.org/download.html on the mutt site? (And urlview too, while we're at it...) At the moment, the link can be found at the very bottom of http://www.mutt.org/links.html, which isn't very promiment. It's also indirectly mentioned at the top of that page (in the index for the rest of the page). I think it's more likely to get lost on the download page, which is already huge with mirrors. I'm certainly not going to put it at the top of that page or anything... 99% of the people that go there want to download Mutt, not something else. If you're this concerned about it, write an entry for the FAQ and submit it to Felix. That's the first place people should be looking for a question they don't find answered after they read the manual. -- Jeremy Blosser | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://jblosser.firinn.org/ -+-+-- "If Microsoft can change and compete on quality, I've won." -- L. Torvalds PGP signature
[Bug Report] - Mutt 1.0pre3i - Main Menu - Reply
++ version: mutt-1.0pre3 menu: main-menu command: Reply ++ Hi Folks, When trying to Reply to a message whose header doesnt have Message-id ( I have no idea how that happpened) Mutt-1.0pre3 dumps core. This doesnt happen with previous versions of mutt (0.95). enclosed is the gdb trace of the session. and mutt -v Just in case.. I was running on a Solaris2.6 machine and was using IMAP to get/read.. and localhost to send mails.. Thanx Guna ++ $ /opt/gnu/bin/gdb /opt/local/bin/mutt ~selvaraj/core GNU gdb 4.17 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "sparc-sun-solaris2.6"... Core was generated by `mutt'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation Fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libsocket.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmp.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise/lib/libc_psr.so.1... done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/locale/en_US/en_US.so.1...done. #0 0xef6a4614 in strlen () (gdb) backtrace #0 0xef6a4614 in strlen () #1 0xef6da50c in _doprnt () #2 0xef6e3948 in snprintf () #3 0x48b50 in envelope_defaults (env=0xa1748, ctx=0xa5820, cur=0xa66e8, flags=1) at send.c:569 #4 0x49648 in ci_send_message (flags=1, msg=0xa16e8, tempfile=0x0, ctx=0xa5820, cur=0xa66e8) at send.c:970 #5 0x20bb4 in mutt_index_menu () at curs_main.c:1506 #6 0x304b8 in main (argc=1, argv=0xe31c) at main.c:683 ++ ++ $ mutt -v + Mutt 1.0pre3i (1999-09-25) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: SunOS 5.6 [using ncurses 4.2] Compile options: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_POP -HAVE_REGCOMP +USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/opt/local//share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/opt/local//etc" ISPELL="/opt/gnu/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. +++ -- Kural-100 When pleasant words are easy, bitter words to use, Is, leaving sweet ripe fruit, the sour unripe to choose. http://www.cs.utk.edu/~siddhart/thirukkural/ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8357/index.html
Re: installing mutt without root privilege
On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 03:57:46PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
I think what you'll have to do is configure mutt with --prefix set to
the actual path you will eventually install to. Then, you'll have to
recreate the actions that 'make install' would have performed ('make -n
install' would probably be helpful here), using your 'cscp' program.
What I've done is configured with --prefix set to the final install
path, as you said, done the 'make', then edited the Makefile and changed
the line
prefix = path to final installation
to
prefix = path to initial installation
Then I run 'make -n install' to see if I have to create any directories,
then run 'make install'.
This was actually for mswordview-0.5.14; I hadn't figured this out the
last time I installed mutt. I am assuming that the Makefile for mutt is
similarly structured.
--
Gary Johnson
Hewlett-Packard Company
Spokane, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [FIX] mutt segfaults + gdb output
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 09:13:20AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-10-07 00:04:25 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I tried today with several combinations. Removing .muttrc (with my my_hdr settings) did not change a thing, just like removing _any_ header. However, inserting the Message-Id: field _did_ cure the problem: I could reply again! So, somewhere besides the previous patch, mutt is dependant on having a Message-Id: field. I don't know how to find this place though... Ah, ok, please try this patch instead of my previous one. [snip patch] Ok, thanks a lot! Things seem to be working perfectly now! -- Rutger Nijlunsing, rutger @ null.net - Linux! -- Don't BiCapitalize without extremely good reason: it messes up the natural human-eyeball search order -- Your Friendly Neighborhood Archive Maintainers +31-40 --- ^X^S^X^Cs
Re: installing mutt without root privilege
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 09:35:55AM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: $ ./configure --prefix=/final/location $ make $ make DESTDIR=/temporary/location install The DESTDIR support isn't set up for the contrib directory yet, so the stuff that gets installed out of there normally will fail. By the way, can anyone say if this use of DESTDIR is reasonably standard? It's not universal, but it's pretty common. -- Manoj Kasichainula - manojk at io dot com - http://www.io.com/~manojk/ "Some people have entirely too much free time on their hands." - Gene Spafford (spaf)
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote: That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we are talking about the naive and clueless. Mutt is a power-users' mailer (unless this has changed recently). It does not cater to the clueless, and I don't want to use software that does. -- Manoj Kasichainula - manojk at io dot com - http://www.io.com/~manojk/
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 01:17:09PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote: That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we are talking about the naive and clueless. Mutt is a power-users' mailer (unless this has changed recently). It does not cater to the clueless, and I don't want to use software that does. Nor would I, but I am not talking about dumbing down the software. you should read more carefully. i am pleased to learn about sSMTP -- it does sound like an excellent solution to someone in this situation. if questions about MTAs become more common, perhaps it would be helpful to mention this in mutt's README or INSTALL files. it does not seem that anything more needs to be done. -- Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb.com lead system admonsterator and Chief Hacking Officer
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 01:17:09PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote: That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we are talking about the naive and clueless. Mutt is a power-users' mailer (unless this has changed recently). It does not cater to the clueless, and I don't want to use software that does. I would like to second this. Trying to make mutt into "the mailer for the masses" will lead to bloat. The point is to have a fast, powerful, small mailer, not to take over the world. This was the attitude among the developers from day one, and I think it should stay that way. -Daniel -- Daniel Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running procmail on popped mail [OT]
Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use fetchmail to pop mail off X which in turn re-injects the messages into postfix/sendmail/qmail on Y which can then run procmail. Sometimes, re-injecting a message into the MTA on machine Y will simply cause it to get sent back to X. In such a case, fetchmail can easily be configured to simply run a local MDA directly, using an option such as "mda procmail -d username". -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson UX WTEC Engineer |PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: how to set up alternate SMTP server
On Oct 07, 1999, Jeremy Blosser wrote: AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to configure it is set the remote mailhub's hostname. Vent mode starting now... OK, I can't resist adding my own $0.02 to this discussion now. When I began using Mutt about 1 year ago, I had been using Netscape because it did have a builtin MTA, but I hated it as a MUA. But, I couldn't get my sendmail to work reliably either. What to do? I was as green a Linux newbie as ever there was then, although I had lots of experience with DOS/Win. I /knew/ that any MTA that had its own O'Reilly book would be too much for me, so I switched to smail. Same problem, so I tried the revolutionary step of RTFM(!), pestering the life out of some kind folks on the SuSE-list, and experimenting. Bottom line: smart_host was what I needed, and I got it implemented. Summary: I left Win and MS partly because of code bloat and apps that "do everything." IMO, Mutt developers have made the right decision to keep things focused. Let fetchmail, procmail and the MTA of your choice do the rest, even if it means some time reading, experimenting, asking for help, or (shudder) learning something new. Vent mode shutting down now. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- Upgraded to kernel 2.0.36 Communications by Mutt 1.0pre3i
Re: installing mutt without root privilege
Quoth Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS: In the case of mutt, I think what you have to do is something like: $ ./configure --prefix=/final/location $ make $ make DESTDIR=/temporary/location install Way cool, this is **exactly** the sort of thing I was looking for. It works pretty well, but the DESTDIR seems not to propagate low enough; a whole bunch of stuff does get correctly installed into my temp location, but eventually it tries to install mutt into /cs/bin. It's the install-binPROGRAMS that is trying to install it, and it does include the DESTDIR variable, so I'm guessing that make doesn't propagate its variables into recursive calls of itself. I fixed the problem by changing the Makefile target install-am to be install-am: all-am @$(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) DESTDIR=$(DESTDIR) \ ^^ install-exec-am install-data-am and adding a DESTDIR=$(DESTDIR) inside the recursive call in the all-recursive (etc) target as follows: all-recursive install-data-recursive install-exec-recursive \ installdirs-recursive install-recursive uninstall-recursive \ check-recursive installcheck-recursive info-recursive dvi-recursive: [...] if test "$$dot_seen" = "no"; then \ $(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) DESTDIR=$(DESTDIR) "$$target-am" || exit 1; \ ^^ fi; test -z "$$fail" With those fixes, the install seems to have proceeded correctly. The same fixes can be applied to Makefile.in (with similar success), but I have no idea where to put them in Makefile.am to make it work Anyway, this seems to have highlighted my main problem, which is that in the makefile in the po/ subdirectory, we have localedir = $(datadir)/locale gnulocaledir = $(prefix)/share/locale The former will resolve to /cs/share/mutt/locale, which is correct (since I have control over the /cs/share/mutt tree), but the second resolves to /cs/share/locale, which I _don't_ have control over. How can I tell mutt to use $(localedir) instead of $(gnulocaledir)? Ok, I can analyse this a little further. It picks $(gnulocaledir) because the CATALOGS list uses the .gmo suffix instead of the .mo suffix. (But then installs the .mo file into that directory.) This, in turn, appears to be because $CATOBJEXT is ".gmo" in the configure file. Why? I dunno But I do know that it's not possible for me to install stuff into /cs/share/locale, and I'm not sure how to tell that to configure. (Check that---it's _possible_, I think, but I'd have to jump through a bunch of hoops with our sysadmin. Is it really worth it?) Once again, I'm on an Ultra10 running Solaris 2.7; my config line is now: configure --enable-pop --enable-buffy-size --with-included-gettext \ --prefix="/cs" --datadir="/cs/share/mutt" \ --sysconfdir="/cs/share/mutt" --with-docdir="/cs/share/mutt/doc" -- -=-Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]=-=-http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/-=- The mome rath isn't born that could outgrabe me. -- Nicol Williamson
