Fcc but only when not encrypted

2001-10-05 Thread Matthias Teege

Moin,

I want to use the fcc-hook for saving all non encrypted mails. The
fcc-hook '~A !~G' 'archiv' don't work. What do I'm missing?

Many thanks
Matthias

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Re: howto force pgp_create_traditional

2001-10-05 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld

David T-G wrote:

 % have the following:
 % 
 % send-hook . set pgp_autosign; macro compose y send-message
 % send-hook ~C [EMAIL PROTECTED] unset pgp_autosign; macro compose y 'Fgpg 
--armor --clearsign --local-user 0x23314340\nysend-message'# Christian Seewald
 % 
 % And it works, perfectly.
 
 Great!
 
 So, I wonder, how do your non-us-ascii emails look when they've been
 clearsigned?

Well, they look okay in my terminal (puh, I'm so glad :) and in Outlook
of my roommate, who also uses a German locale.  Not many of my friends
use Outlook, so I don't expect so much breakage.

Cheers,
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Re: multiple fcc usage

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Andrew --

...and then Andrew Brown said...
% % what i'd like to do is have every outbound message saved to a folder
...
% 
% As you've seen, there's no stock way to do it right now.
% 
% yup.  so i've attached my solution.  it's a perl script that i've

Thanks; it looks quite interesting, and I may use it for myself for the
same sort of thing!


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Re: how to fix non-MIME encoded PGP messages in my Fcc?

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Zane --

...and then Zane Crawford said...
% I'm using the pgp_create_traditional and pgp_outlook_compat settings to
% generate old (yes, broken) PGP messages (without the PGP/MIME headers).  I

*smile*


% also have my procmail set up to insert these headers when it intercepts
% something that looks like a PGP message, that doesn't already have the headers.

Yep.


% 
% However, if I send an encrypted message to someone else, and savea copy to an
% Fcc, it never goes through procmail, and thus never gets the header inserted,
% and so, when I go to view it, I just get the raw text of the PGP message -
% which is (hopefully!) completely indecipherable.

Right.


% 
% What's the cleanest way to fix this?  I could set up a macro that just runs
% formail and inserts it when I ask it to, but I'd rather set something up that
% automatically notices (like procmail does) and inserts the header, allowing
% Mutt to do all its GPG fanciness transparently.

I *could* say that you've made your bed and now you have to lie in it :-)
but instead I'll point you to check-traditional-pgp (bound to esc-P in
the pager) in 1.3.  Yes, you could modify your copy of the message and
save it back to your $record file, but IMHO that's a bad answer 'cuz
your copy of what you sent becomes something other than what you sent.


% 
% Any ideas?

HTH  HAND


% 
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% work: 626.395.6981 (*)/ (*) Ignorance is Strength.
% cell: 626.437.2562  - Big Brother
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% 


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Re: alias file perms error

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Sharukh --

...and then Dr . Sharukh K . R . Pavri . said...
% Yes, i finally got it sorted out. I had to give the editor value in
% .bash_profile.

Do you mean that you had to set EDITOR= in your .bash_profile file at
all, or that you had to put whatever $EDITOR is (from .bash_profile)
directly into your muttrc file?

In the case of the latter, you could go back to $EDITOR in your muttrc
file and be sure to export EDITOR in your .bash_profile file.


% 
% It works now.

*That* is the important part :-)


% 
% regards,
% 
% Sharukh.


HTH  HAND

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Re: Making edit-type permanent

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Viktor --

...and then Viktor Rosenfeld said...
% Hello,
% 
% is there a way to make edit-type permanent upon exiting mutt?  When I
% edit the mime-type of an attachment, exit mutt, and then open the
% mailbox again, the mime-type is reverted back to its old value.

Ah.  In that case, just sync-mailbox ('$' by default) to write without
quitting, or quit ('q') to write and exit (but watch out for mark_old and
so on).


% 
% I know that I can edit the mail directly, but I would rather do this
% from mutt.

HTH  HAND


% 
% Thanks,
% Viktor
% -- 
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% WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/


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is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Sven

Hello, ...

First, i am a long time mutt user, and find it one of the best muas around.

I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped
mailbox. I suppose this could be done using the zlib library, but have found
no mention of it in the manpage, nor in the faq or other documents i have read
about mutt.

Actually i just made a compressed archive of my mail boxes, burnt a CD with
them, and would like to be able to use mutt read them, without having to
uncompress them, which takes place and processing time.

Please reply to me directly, as i am not subsrcibed to this list.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Dan Boger

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 03:30:29PM +0200, Sven wrote:
 Hello, ...
 
 First, i am a long time mutt user, and find it one of the best muas around.
 
 I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped
 mailbox. I suppose this could be done using the zlib library, but have found
 no mention of it in the manpage, nor in the faq or other documents i have read
 about mutt.
 
 Actually i just made a compressed archive of my mail boxes, burnt a CD with
 them, and would like to be able to use mutt read them, without having to
 uncompress them, which takes place and processing time.
 
 Please reply to me directly, as i am not subsrcibed to this list.

yup, I've been using it for almost all my folders for a while now...
get the patch from http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/ and
recompile mutt with it.  I'm running it with the 1.2.5i version (I think
:)

HTH

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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Will Yardley

Sven wrote:
 
 I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped
 mailbox. I suppose this could be done using the zlib library, but have
 found no mention of it in the manpage, nor in the faq or other
 documents i have read about mutt.

hrmm 
http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/

(linked from)
http://www.mutt.org/links.html under 'Mutt User Patches'

this link also came up at the top of a google search for 'gzipped
folders'

hth

w

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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Michael Tatge

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 Sven wrote:
 First, i am a long time mutt user, and find it one of the best muas around.

Just one of the best? What's wrong with you? ;-)

 I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped
 mailbox.

There's compressed folder patch from Roland Rosenfeld.
http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/

Just give it a try.
By the way - thanks to Roland for his continued work.

Michael
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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Sven

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 05:04:08PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 Sven wrote:
  First, i am a long time mutt user, and find it one of the best muas around.
 
 Just one of the best? What's wrong with you? ;-)

Ok, the best, (well not that i use anything else, so i cannot really judge :))

  I was asking myself if it would be possible for mutt to read a gzipped
  mailbox.
 
 There's compressed folder patch from Roland Rosenfeld.
 http://www.spinnaker.de/mutt/compressed/

Thanks for all three of you for having replied, i will give it a try nextly.

BTW, any chance of having included in the main mutt tree, or are there some
issues with it ?

Will see if i can build a debian package with this patch included ...

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Will Yardley

Sven wrote:
 
 Will see if i can build a debian package with this patch included ...

i think this is already in the debian package (for unstable anyway)

if i do apt-get source, there's:
000_patch-1.3.22.1.rr.compressed

in
mutt-1.3.22/debian/patches

and i'm pretty sure i've heard before that this patch is already in the
debian version.

so if you're running the debian package you can probably just set the
option.

if you're running potato you might want to try building the stable
package on unstable (or there may be a mutt-dev package for potato).

w

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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Hall Stevenson

  Will see if i can build a debian package with this
  patch included ...

 i think this is already in the debian package (for
 unstable anyway)

snip
 and i'm pretty sure i've heard before that this patch is
 already in the debian version.

According to the description here,

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mutt.html,

it may not include compressed file support, although I think
I've read somewhere that some packages do (maybe it was the
Mandrake RPM version ??). It doesn't 'depend' on 'zlib', so
does that mean anything ??


Regards
Hall




Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Will Yardley

Hall Stevenson wrote:
 
 According to the description here,
 
 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mutt.html,
 
 it may not include compressed file support, although I think
 I've read somewhere that some packages do (maybe it was the
 Mandrake RPM version ??). It doesn't 'depend' on 'zlib', so
 does that mean anything ??

well the patch is in the debian source package and:

ladd% mutt -v ~
Mutt 1.3.22i (2001-08-30)
Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.2.19 [using ncurses 5.2]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  +USE_SASL  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +COMPRESSED  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
ISPELL=/usr/bin/ispell
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/mail
PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/etc
EXECSHELL=/bin/sh
MIXMASTER=mixmaster
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the flea(1) utility.

(this machine has standard debian woody mutt package on it)

notice +COMPRESSED and several other random non-standard features.

so i'm pretty sure this is part of the debian package.

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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Alexander Wasmuth

Will Yardley schrieb:

 Hall Stevenson wrote:
  
  According to the description here,
  
  http://packages.debian.org/unstable/mail/mutt.html,
  
  it may not include compressed file support, although I think
  I've read somewhere that some packages do (maybe it was the
  Mandrake RPM version ??). It doesn't 'depend' on 'zlib', so
  does that mean anything ??
 
 well the patch is in the debian source package and:
[...]
 (this machine has standard debian woody mutt package on it)
 
 notice +COMPRESSED and several other random non-standard features.
 
 so i'm pretty sure this is part of the debian package.

Yes, it is and I'm using it without any problems here.

Alex

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sending sent

2001-10-05 Thread Tim Whitehead


I have emails that I want to resend from ~/Mail/sent. Is there a key binding for
this?


tw


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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Hall Stevenson

snip

 (this machine has standard debian woody mutt
 package on it)

 notice +COMPRESSED and several other random
 non-standard features.

 so i'm pretty sure this is part of the debian package.

Cool. If Debian allows this patch in, they must consider it
perfectly 'stable'. I'll have to check into implementing this
feature, which I believe from looking in the past, that the
'spinnaker' site has information.

Hall




Re: sending sent

2001-10-05 Thread Nelson D. Guerrero
 msg.pgp


Re: sending sent

2001-10-05 Thread David Champion

On 2001.10.05, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Tim Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have emails that I want to resend from ~/Mail/sent. Is there a key binding for
 this?

resend-message, esc-e.

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Re: sending sent

2001-10-05 Thread Alexander Wasmuth

Tim Whitehead schrieb:

 I have emails that I want to resend from ~/Mail/sent. Is there a key
 binding for this?

From the help (?):

Esce  resend-message  
use the current message as a template for a new one


HTH, Alex

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Re: Making edit-type permanent

2001-10-05 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld

Hi David,

David T-G wrote:

 % is there a way to make edit-type permanent upon exiting mutt?  When I
 % edit the mime-type of an attachment, exit mutt, and then open the
 % mailbox again, the mime-type is reverted back to its old value.
 
 Ah.  In that case, just sync-mailbox ('$' by default) to write without
 quitting, or quit ('q') to write and exit (but watch out for mark_old and
 so on).

This doesn't work.  See, the file on disk is never changed.  If I do
edit-type and change the mime-type from, say, application/octed-stream
to application/msword, and then hit e to edit the file directly, there
is still a content type of application/octed-stream.  Mutt will show
this attachment as application/msword and will honor my mailcap entries
for this type, but only as long as the folder is open.  Once I open
another folder (or quit mutt) all changes are lost.

Ciao,
Viktor

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IMAP Filter

2001-10-05 Thread Jean-Sebastien Morisset

Just saw this on Freshmeat today, and remembered some people were
looking for something like this a short while ago...

http://freshmeat.net/projects/imapfilter/

IMAPFilter connects to remote IMAP mail servers and processes messages
according to defined filters (rules). It is intended to be executed
before a user accesses his/her mailboxes.

LateR!
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Re: Making edit-type permanent

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Viktor --

...and then Viktor Rosenfeld said...
% Hi David,

Hello!


% 
% David T-G wrote:
% 
%  % is there a way to make edit-type permanent upon exiting mutt?  When I
%  % edit the mime-type of an attachment, exit mutt, and then open the
%  % mailbox again, the mime-type is reverted back to its old value.
%  
%  Ah.  In that case, just sync-mailbox ('$' by default) to write without
%  quitting, or quit ('q') to write and exit (but watch out for mark_old and
%  so on).
% 
% This doesn't work.  See, the file on disk is never changed.  If I do
% edit-type and change the mime-type from, say, application/octed-stream

How interesting!

I thought it was as simple as your using e'x'it instead of 'q'uit :-)


% to application/msword, and then hit e to edit the file directly, there
% is still a content type of application/octed-stream.  Mutt will show
% this attachment as application/msword and will honor my mailcap entries
% for this type, but only as long as the folder is open.  Once I open
% another folder (or quit mutt) all changes are lost.

I had no idea.  That certainly seems odd to me!


% 
% Ciao,
% Viktor
% 
% PS: What does HAND mean?

Have A Nice Day :-)


% -- 
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send without 'y'

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Hi, all --

I have already figured out that I can unset and reset $editor in my
send-hook as I send off to spamcop (hey, Suresh, yes I'm inexplicably
back in!) but I still have to hit 'y' to send the forward.

How can I tag a group of messages and then forward them to spamcop
without further intervention?  I imagine a macro but I don't know how to
call one from the compose menu...


TIA  HAND

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Re: send without 'y'

2001-10-05 Thread David T-G

Hi again --

...and then David T-G said...
% 
% How can I tag a group of messages and then forward them to spamcop
% without further intervention?  I imagine a macro but I don't know how to
% call one from the compose menu...

I must have been drinking with the rest of the gang.  I meant, of course,
that I don't know how to invoke one from a send-hook...

% 
% TIA  HAND
^^2 :-)


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What header is used by mutt for threading?

2001-10-05 Thread Larry Hignight

Hello,

I'm curious as to which header Mutt (or any other mua for that matter)
uses to sort email into threads.  Someone on another list had said that
it was the subject header, but I don't think it can be the subject
header because people often screw up threading mid-stream by replying
and changing the subject line.  

Anyone happen to know?  TIA,

Larry

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Re: What header is used by mutt for threading?

2001-10-05 Thread Jim Crumley

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 02:00:04PM -0700, Larry Hignight wrote:
 I'm curious as to which header Mutt (or any other mua for that matter)
 uses to sort email into threads.  Someone on another list had said that
 it was the subject header, but I don't think it can be the subject
 header because people often screw up threading mid-stream by replying
 and changing the subject line.  

From http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3 :

strict_threads

Type: boolean
Default: no

If set, threading will only make use of the ``In-Reply-To'' and
``References'' fields when ``sorting'' by message threads. By
default, messages with the same subject are grouped together in
``pseudo threads.'' This may not always be desirable, such as in
a personal mailbox where you might have several unrelated
messages with the subject ``hi'' which will get grouped together.

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Re: What header is used by mutt for threading?

2001-10-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Larry Hignight mutt [05/10/01 14:00 -0700]:
 I'm curious as to which header Mutt (or any other mua for that matter)
 uses to sort email into threads.  Someone on another list had said that
 it was the subject header, but I don't think it can be the subject

Subject, Message-ID, In-Reply-To, References

--suresh (did I miss any?)

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Re: is it possible to have mutt use gzipped mailboxes ?

2001-10-05 Thread Jerome

Concerning compressed mailboxes, I would like to know if there is a way to know when 
there is a new mail in a compressed mailboxe. Right now I have gzipped mailboxes and I 
have them referenced with mailboxes in my muttrc.

Off course I realized compressing mailboxes is usually for archive purpose but I just 
thought it might be easier to have some of them always compressed.

thanks
Jerome