Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
Hi all! On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Thomas Roessler wrote: I've just released the next mutt beta, version 1.3.24i. Some of the more interesting changes against mutt-1.3.23i: Just a question: are you also announcing to mutt-annunce? I've subscribed it, but never read any announcments... Ciao for now, Dirk -- Dirk Ruediger, Rostock, Germany begin:vcard n:Ruediger;Dirk tel;fax:+49-(0)381-44 60 88 tel;work:+49-(0)381-40 24 154 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.rostock.zgdv.de/ org:ZGDV Zentrum für Graphische Datenverarbeitung e.V.;CAD Teleservices adr:;;Joachim-Jungius-Straße 11;D-18059 Rostock;;;Germany version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Dipl.-Ing. fn:Dirk Ruediger end:vcard
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Hi, * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 00:21]: * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about once a year. I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists that use (or don't use) Reply-To: act the same :) I thought about this, but I answer individually too often. I'd rather make my filter weed out Reply-Tos in known offenders. Dairy, you could set the Reply-To header, this is more widely honored than Mail-Followup-To. Ah. I guess they would hit group-reply anyway. It would be nice to, in addition to the option to set Mail-Followup-To, to be able to set Reply-To: to the list address automatically. Anything that helps cut down the dupes is Good[tm].. See my other mail. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Moin, * Cristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 00:29]: I just noticed that somebody suggested Maildrop. It may be wise to look at Maildrop first -- I surmise it is easier to use. Procmail, on the other hand, is very powerful and the de-facto standard in this area. I used Procmail for two years, then had a look at Maildrop and translated my procmail.rc in five minutes. Is there anything that Procmail (not Formail) can and Maildrop cannot? Incidentally, I never used Maildrop but immediately jumped to Mail::Audit. Now *this* is powerful. Slow though. Enough of this -- this topic should be discussed elsewhere. Sorry. I just think that Procmail is for techies *only*. I just converted to Mutt, and I'm glad I don't have to modify anything in my procmail configuration. And that's the real advantage of modular software: You can switch MUA or MDA without the other being affected. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
GPG, sign encrypt
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Re: Trailing Lines
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 09:20:06AM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: In Vim, in vi :g/^$/d -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: GPG, sign encrypt
* Markus Boelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 11:22]: | I'm using mutt and gpg. I want to sign each message with gpg. But: | Is it possible to exclude some persons which get mails are not signed? I do it the other way around: by default, I don't sign any message. And then define persons to which mails _do_ have to be signed. This because the vast majority of my recipients probably thinks pgp is some sort of automobile ;) | Can I use the hooks vor this? I don't wont to press p after writing | an message an than choose nothing - I should sign or not sign | automatically mails :) I use the following: send-hook . set pgp_autosign=no send-hook ~C mutt\.org set pgp_autosign=yes You should be able to adapt this to your situation. Bye, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention, with the possible exceptions of handguns and Tequilla. -Mitch Ratcliffe msg20831/pgp4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt gpg encryption ...
Andreas Selig wrote: wasn't correct . I already read in the mailinglist several threads but nothing helped: I tryed : set pgp_good_sign=gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von set pgp_good_sign=^gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von works fine here
Re: GPG, sign encrypt
Moin, * Markus Boelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 11:20]: I'm using mutt and gpg. I want to sign each message with gpg. Questionable at best, but completly useless unless you get your keys on the server. But: Is it possible to exclude some persons which get mails are not signed? Yes, by setting a send-hook that modifies $pgp_autosign. You need a list of persons though. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
how to switch between mailboxes?
Hi, all, I use procmail to filter those incoming email into different mailboxes, but I don't know how to get into these mailboxes. Mutt only gives me the /var/spool/mail/lxj. Thanks, /Jun
Re: how to switch between mailboxes?
* Jun Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 12:14]: | I use procmail to filter those incoming email into different mailboxes, | but I don't know how to get into these mailboxes. Mutt only gives me the | /var/spool/mail/lxj. Check out the mailboxes directive. This directive tells mutt which mailboxes to check for new mail, and, when you press tab at the change folder prompt, will make mutt show a list of these mailboxes, for easy access. HTH, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I drink to make other people more interesting. msg20835/pgp1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Cristian Pietsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Techies use procmail for this task. First you have to tell your Mail Transport Agent to let procmail deliver your mail. You do this by creating a file called ~/.forward containing this line: | exec procmail -f- Just out of curiosity; I'm using Exim as MTA and Mutt (of course) as MUA. Procmail filters incoming mail into different mailboxes and kills spam from known addresses. Still, I haven't set up ~/.forward. I only have ~/.procmailrc, which calls for another file, which is the recipe file itself. So, is it really necessary to create ~/.forward in order to use Procmail, or is it just Exim, who notices if there's Procmail in use? -- Jussi Ekholm, Everything is so fine it could be a little, ill flower don't let your mind take you in misery [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the feelings you're not so much pleased http://ekhowl.goa-head.org they're just to take you to sweet harmony
Re: how to switch between mailboxes?
Hi, * Jun Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 12:12]: I use procmail to filter those incoming email into different mailboxes, but I don't know how to get into these mailboxes. Mutt only gives me the /var/spool/mail/lxj. Set them: mailboxes `find /path/to/your/directory/of/mailboxes -type f -print | grep -Ev '(log|backup|sent|postponed|trash)' | xargs` Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Jussi Ekholm wrote: So, is it really necessary to create ~/.forward in order to use Procmail, or is it just Exim, who notices if there's Procmail in use? if exim uses procmail as its LDA, no .forward is needed - your .procmailrc is read already. since you don't need a .forward, my guess is that exim is indeed using procmail as an LDA (i don't think it has its own). it doesn't notice whether or not procmail is in use though with postfix (if mailbox_command isn't set to procmail -t) you don't need a fancy sendmail style .forward i just use: zugzug% cat .forward | /usr/bin/procmail -t which seems to work fine. w
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Hi, * Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 12:40]: Just out of curiosity; I'm using Exim as MTA and Mutt (of course) as MUA. Procmail filters incoming mail into different mailboxes and kills spam from known addresses. Still, I haven't set up ~/.forward. So, is it really necessary to create ~/.forward in order to use Procmail, or is it just Exim, who notices if there's Procmail in use? I don't know Exim, but it can obviously configured to use an MDA/LDA to do the actual delivery. Grep for procmail in Exim's configuration files. I only have ~/.procmailrc, which calls for another file, which is the recipe file itself. Why is that? Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
Hi, * Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 12:47]: with postfix (if mailbox_command isn't set to procmail -t) you don't need a fancy sendmail style .forward i just use: zugzug% cat .forward | /usr/bin/procmail -t Use | /usr/bin/procmail -t || exit 75 if you want Postfix to retry on errors. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
1.3.24 fails to compile on SunOS
SunOS 4.1.4 gcc 2.95.2 make[2]: Entering directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I/usr/local/include -I../intl -Wall -pedantic -O2 -c auth.c In file included from ../protos.h:20, from ../mutt.h:809, from auth.c:23: ../mbyte.h:18: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:19: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:20: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:22: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class gmake[2]: *** [auth.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
Signing list email is a complete useless exercise and wastes my time if your key is not on any key servers (and yes, I tried several, just in case). [-- PGP output follows (current time: Fri 30 Nov 2001 12:14:19 PM GMT) --] gpg: Signature made Fri Nov 30 08:04:08 2001 GMT using DSA key ID 2125BB86 gpg: requesting key 2125BB86 from search.keyserver.net ... gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [-- End of PGP output --] -- Chicken Little only has to be right once.
procmail in Mandrake8.1
Hi, all, Just found out that procmail doesn't need .forward in mandrake8.1. Everything just works if you write .procmailrc correctly. Later I would like to try maildrop, :) Thanks for you all, /Jun
Re: 1.3.24 fails to compile on SunOS
Steve Kennedy writes: SunOS 4.1.4 gcc 2.95.2 make[2]: Entering directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I/usr/local/include -I../intl -Wall -pedantic -O2 -c auth.c In file included from ../protos.h:20, from ../mutt.h:809, from auth.c:23: ../mbyte.h:18: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:19: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:20: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:21: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towupper' ../mbyte.h:21: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: parse error before `wc' ../mbyte.h:22: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `towlower' ../mbyte.h:22: ANSI C forbids data definition with no type or storage class gmake[2]: *** [auth.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24/imap' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home2/ns/steve/mutt/mutt-1.3.24' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288683121313w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288714522738w=2 Sorry :-)
Re: 1.3.24 fails to compile on SunOS
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:24:36PM +, Lars Hecking wrote: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288683121313w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mutt-devm=100288714522738w=2 No that's fine, but shouldn't it be fixed somewhere ... it's been around for a while ... Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: a dumb question about filter ...
So, is it really necessary to create ~/.forward in order to use Procmail, or is it just Exim, who notices if there's Procmail in use? I don't know Exim, but it can obviously configured to use an MDA/LDA to do the actual delivery. Grep for procmail in Exim's configuration files. You can configure almost all MTA to use procmail for local mail transport. So people who are lucky to have procmail as their default local mail deliverer don't have to use the .forward-File. Maybe you can ask your administrator to setup sendmail or exim to use procmail. This is (more or less) just a small configuration change. Moreover you can also use the procmail sanitizer to check for worms and viruses in the mails before they reach your MUA http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html As there are several persons in my network reading their mail under windows this is just great! -- cu --== Jerri ==-- Homepage: http://www.jerri.de/ ICQ: 54160208 msg20849/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
default directory for change-folder
I believe that mutt should automatically prepend the value of the set-folder variable to whatever the user enters as the destination folder when issuing the change-folder command (bound by default to 'c'). To get round this I have lived with mutt being executed from my mail folder dir - but this workaround is no longer convenient for me. Also you could map macro index c change-folder= But then you lose the (partially useful) functionality of the last active folder being offered by mutt as the default. Is there something wrong with this proposal? -- Eric Smith
Re: GPG, sign encrypt
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 René [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: * Markus Boelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 11:22]: | I'm using mutt and gpg. I want to sign each message with gpg. But: | Is it possible to exclude some persons which get mails are not signed? I do it the other way around: by default, I don't sign any message. And then define persons to which mails _do_ have to be signed. This because the vast majority of my recipients probably thinks pgp is some sort of automobile ;) *grin* Yes, I think most of us have, at one time or another, received a mail saying 'What was the attachment you sent me ?'. So, it may not be a good idea to sign _all_ mails. | Can I use the hooks vor this? I don't wont to press p after writing | an message an than choose nothing - I should sign or not sign | automatically mails :) My settings : muttrc send-hook . set pgp_autosign=no # Default send-hook ~l set pgp_autosign=yes send-hook ilugc set pgp_autosign=no # listar@aero mangles it /muttrc pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20851/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: patch-1.3.23.cd.edit_threads-6[.CYA] not working
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Cedric [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Hi Prahlad, Any clues as to why this is happening ? This patch could be _very_ useful ... if only I can get it to work :-( this patch is closely tied to the threading code. Ahhh - that explains it ! In the 1.3.23.1 release, this part of the Mutt code has been almost completely rewritten by Daniel Eisenbud in an effort to improve its efficiency. Thus the edit_threads patch won't apply anymore. If you want to use it, you should use Mutt 1.3.23. Or wait a little... I will rewrite the patch so that it can work along with the new threading code. I'll take the latter option. Thanks ! pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20852/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: newbie question
Hi, Quoting from the mutt manual: mailbox shortcuts can be used anywhere where a path to a mailbox is needed · ! -- refers to your ``$spool'' (incoming) mailbox · -- refers to your ``$mbox'' file · -- refers to your ``$record'' file · - or !! -- refers to the file you've last visited · ~ -- refers to your home directory · = or + -- refers to your ``$folder'' directory · @alias -- refers to the ``default save folder'' as determined by the address of the alias Balazs - Original Message - From: Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:22 Subject: Re: newbie question Greg Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I start mutt I see the contents of /var/spool/username. I change folders using 'c' command. I cannot figure out how to get back to view /var/spool/username. *Please*, do not write lines longer than 76 characters (preferably 72 characters) - makes replying a pain. René already told you one way to do it, but I thought I'd share my way of doing it, as well. So, I've created symbolic link inbox in my maildir, which points to mail spool. I find it quite convenient and clear. YMMV. -- Jussi Ekholm, Everything is so fine it could be a little, ill flowerdon't let your mind take you in misery [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the feelings you're not so much pleased http://ekhowl.goa-head.org they're just to take you to sweet harmony
Strange things with gpg now
If I get a pgp/gpg message I now get [-- PGP output follows (current time: 11/30/01 13:08:07) --] gpg: Signature made 11/30/01 12:08:21 GMT using DSA key ID 2125BB86 gpg: requesting key 2125BB86 from wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net ... gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [-- End of PGP output --] \012 [-- The following data is signed --] \012 Hi, Steve -- NetTek Ltd tel +44-(0)20 7483 1169 fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Flat 2,43 Howitt Road, Belsize Park,London NW3 4LU mobile 07775 755503 Epage [EMAIL PROTECTED] [body only]
Re: GPG, sign encrypt
Hi, * Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 13:08]: send-hook ~l set pgp_autosign=yes Could you give me the motivation for this? Off-list, if you like, because I'm sure this comes up twice a year. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 23:21:27 -0800, Dairy Wall Limey wrote: hrmm this makes sense... setting this does change the number of '?'s... putting: set hide_missing gives one question mark, Here, I get several question marks ($hide_missing set). :( is there a way to hide the question marks entirely as in older versions of mutt? I'd like this too. i find them somewhat distracting. maybe i just need to get used to them. They are a problem in very long threads. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Apologies for GPG hassle (WAS Re: Script to rebuild quotes)
Hi, On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Lars [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: Signing list email is a complete useless exercise and wastes my time if your key is not on any key servers (and yes, I tried several, just in case). Am a bit new to the whole concept of encryption, so I apologize for the trouble I've caused. I've now put my key onto www.keyserver.net. I think I've done it right, because when I searched for myself, I found me. Have also got hold of some literature, so I will RTFM over the next couple of days. Meanwhile, I'll also try to pry out my foot from my immensely accomodating mouth :-) Oh, and Steve Kennedy, I believe that's my key that gpg can't check. Try now, it should be alright. Sorry again. NOT signing off, pv. PS: If anyone knows of any good reading material, do point it me off-list. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! --
Re: default directory for change-folder
* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 13:47]: | I believe that mutt should automatically prepend the value of | the set-folder variable to whatever the user enters as the | destination folder when issuing the change-folder command | (bound by default to 'c'). | | To get round this I have lived with mutt being executed from | my mail folder dir - but this workaround is no longer convenient for me. | Also you could map | macro index c change-folder= | But then you lose the (partially useful) functionality of the | last active folder being offered by mutt as the default. | | Is there something wrong with this proposal? At first it sounds good, but what happens if I want to change to an IMAP folder? Prepending = obviously doesn't work. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -Shakespeare msg20858/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: default directory for change-folder
Ren? Clerc wrote: * Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 13:47]: | macro index c change-folder= | But then you lose the (partially useful) functionality of the | last active folder being offered by mutt as the default. | | Is there something wrong with this proposal? At first it sounds good, but what happens if I want to change to an IMAP folder? Prepending = obviously doesn't work. if you have folder set correctly it should, no? if i understand it correctly, = just means 'a known mailbox' so if your imap 'folder' is set in $folder, and you have it listed as a mailbox, using change-folder= should work the same as a local folder. i haven't used mutt extensively with imap, so perhaps i'm totally talking out my ass. -will
Re: default directory for change-folder
* Dairy Wall Limey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 15:05]: | Ren? Clerc wrote: | * Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 13:47]: | | | macro index c change-folder= | | But then you lose the (partially useful) functionality of the | | last active folder being offered by mutt as the default. | | | | Is there something wrong with this proposal? | | At first it sounds good, but what happens if I want to change to an | IMAP folder? Prepending = obviously doesn't work. | | if you have folder set correctly it should, no? | if i understand it correctly, = just means 'a known mailbox' so if your | imap 'folder' is set in $folder, and you have it listed as a mailbox, | using change-folder= should work the same as a local folder. You're right on that; what I forgot to mention is that I use mutt for both IMAP and local mail. $folder is therefore set to a local folder. So prepending = would be annoying if I want to change to an IMAP folder. And not prepending it, would mean that I have to type it myself. This is less annoying, because I don't mind typing the =. | i haven't used mutt extensively with imap, so perhaps i'm totally | talking out my ass. Err, I don't know, maybe you should visit a doctor to check? ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) msg20862/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: default directory for change-folder
* Paul Roberts Student lab engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 15:17]: | On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 06:03:30AM -0800, Dairy Wall Limey wrote: | | if you have folder set correctly it should, no? | if i understand it correctly, = just means 'a known mailbox' so if your | imap 'folder' is set in $folder, and you have it listed as a mailbox, | using change-folder= should work the same as a local folder. | | I may be wrong, but I think his point was, what if he is using imap and | local folders, and $folder can only be set to one of those, a macro | which automaticlly typed '=' would be inconvenient. Right ;) Furthermore: IMO the '=' shortcut was created for ease of use: not having to type the same directory name over and over again. IMO it was _not_ created to softly force you into your default mail folder. But I _can_ imagine, that for people who use local mail only, it could be handy, iff the function that automagically displays a folder with new mail is preserved. -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit msg20863/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To
* Dairy Wall Limey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Thomas Hurst wrote: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? A rare special case, especially since the majority of the lists I'm on don't even allow external posts. I'd rather one person with questionable reasons posting to the list not receive a message than 4 people receive two each. this is why i think it would be cool if there was a feature (or patch) to allow you to do something like: if(a valid list); bind 'r' or 'R' to 'ask-yes list reply' ie if the message comes from a known or subscribed list, and you hit reply or group-reply, mutt would say: reply to list y,n I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do this then, they get the message, but people on the list don't get dupes. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
Thomas --
...and then Thomas Hurst said...
% This isn't entirely mutt related, but I'm sure some of you will be
% interested.
%
% I just finished (for tonight :) tweaking a script designed to rebuild
% quote strings with the One True Quote String (' ', obviously), even if
% you're replying to someone with a really evil one. For instance:
%
% name : |% TH Bla bla, bla bla bla
Gee, who could the Evil One be? ;-)
%
% Becomes:
%
% Bla bla, bla bla bla
%
% It handles most special cases (including smileys, URI's and From),
% and can be configured to compress quotes (' '), strip trailing
% whitespace and not generate quotes for blank lines.
%
% It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl
% version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby.
I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too.
%
% Grab it at: http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.rb
%
% --
% Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
:-D
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Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thomas Hurst wrote: I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do this then, they get the message, but people on the list don't get dupes. i'm confused reply, group-reply and list-reply all already honor Mail-Followup-To. my point was that most people don't set this, and sometimes you accidentally might hit 'r' or 'R' when you mean to hit 'L' (actually i usually do the reverse but) -- William Yardley System Administrator, Newdream Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
Re: mutt for blind computerusers
Hi Mutt folks,
(this idea is for the Mutt developers but since the thread came up
here, I'm continuing here. Btw. -- sorry for my recent duplicate post.
It won't happen again, folder-hook works for me now.)
There is another great use for an (optional) cursor in the internal
pager -- you could avoid using the urlview ripper.
The only feature I miss in Mutt compared to Pine 4 is just this:
Within the ususal message view, you use up and down cursor keys to
jump to a spot that looks like a URL oder Email address, hit enter
(maybe edit the URL), and url_handler.sh gets you there.
There may be people who got used to urlview but consider a typical
digest email I get every day from LinguistList. This is what urlview
extracts from it:
---snip---
1 http://linguistlist.org/
2 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2979.html
3 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2980.html
4 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2981.html
5 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2982.html
6 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2983.html
7 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2984.html
8 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2985.html
9 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2986.html
10 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2987.html
11 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2988.html
12 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2989.html
13 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2990.html
14 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2991.html
---snap---
I'm bad at remembering numbers. This is what the computer should do
for me.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 12:54:44AM +0100, Thomas Roessler wrote:
On 2001-11-28 21:23:27 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
I agree with you. Perhaps there could be an optional cursor for
the internal pager.
Any takers? I'd include such a patch with mutt pretty much
immediately if it was clean.
Fine. Any takers? :-)
Cheers,
Cristian
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Re: Script to rebuild quotes
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30-11-2001 16:14]:
| Thomas --
|
| ...and then Thomas Hurst said...
| % This isn't entirely mutt related, but I'm sure some of you will be
| % interested.
| %
| % I just finished (for tonight :) tweaking a script designed to rebuild
| % quote strings with the One True Quote String (' ', obviously), even if
| % you're replying to someone with a really evil one. For instance:
| %
| % name : |% TH Bla bla, bla bla bla
|
| Gee, who could the Evil One be? ;-)
I don't know, David ;)
| % It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl
| % version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby.
|
| I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too.
Same here.
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Liar: One who tells an unpleasant truth.
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Re: Script to rebuild quotes
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 16:11]: % It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl % version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby. I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too. No. Please don't. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Hi, * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 16:08]: I wouldn't mind if mutt scanned the thread for Mail-Followup-To: headers and Cc:'d anyone who had it set to their address explicitly. If people off-list do this then, they get the message, but people on the list don't get dupes. It does even better: It sets the Mail-Followup-To, so that thread-later mails can do the same, even if they use list-reply. Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:16:47PM +0100, René Clerc wrote: I don't know, David ;) | % It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl | % version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby. | | I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too. I'll take mine in ruby please
Re: newbie question
Thus spake Jussi Ekholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): René already told you one way to do it, but I thought I'd share my way of doing it, as well. So, I've created symbolic link inbox in my maildir, which points to mail spool. I find it quite convenient and clear. YMMV. I do this as well. All of my mail is in ~/mail, and I have a symlink to /var/mail/incanus called 'inbox' which is also in ~/mail. Works well. -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred) msg20872/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
a bunch of newbie questions
1) When I start mutt, I see this message: fcntl: No locks available (errno = 37) How can I make it go away? 2) When I go to the index, I see this message: /home/pbrannan/.mh_profile not found, mh format names disabled How can I make it go away? 3) When changing between mailboxes, I am constantly asked whether I want to purge deleted messages. I can make this go away with set delete=no, but then when I press $ to expunge the messages, nothing happens. What must I do to get rid of deleted messages when delete is set to no? 4) When I go to the browser, the selected mailbox is always the topmost one (INBOX). How can I make the selected mailbox be the current mailbox? 5) When displaying messages from the ruby-talk mailing list, the subjects are always of the form: Re: [ruby-talk:12345] This is a subject This makes the threaded view interesting, to say the least, whenever someone's mail client doesn't set In-Reply-To:. Can I change how these messages are sorted? 6) When I try to postpone a message, I get: Couldn't lock /users/pbrannan/postponed. My home directory is on NFS, so this somewhat makes sense. But how can I postpone messages in this case? 7) Can you point me toward any tips/tricks for using vim with mutt? I've already got: au BufEnter /tmp/mutt* set ai et list tw=72 au BufEnter /tmp/mutt* set listchars=tab:,trail:. au BufEnter /tmp/mutt* set comments=nb: (stolen shamelessly from someone else's .vimrc). Is there anything else I should add? Thanks, Paul Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a couple more questions
1) How can I refresh the current inbox? The 'G' key seems to be POP-specific (I'm using IMAP). 2) Can I set up vim to place the cursor in the To field automatically when composing a message? Thanks again, Paul
Re: Strange things with gpg now
On Fri 30-Nov-2001 at 01:09:20PM +, Steve Kennedy wrote: If I get a pgp/gpg message I now get [-- End of PGP output --] \012 [-- The following data is signed --] \012 I get ? instead of \012 This is the same without any color settings so there is an extra formfeed character floating around somewhere. -- Bruno http://bruno.postle.net/
Forwarding attachements...
My mutt does not automagically attach attachements of the original message being forwarded. What option does control this behavior? TIA Matej -- Matej Cepl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.
Re: Strange things with gpg now
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 15:52:09 +, Bruno Postle wrote: On Fri 30-Nov-2001 at 01:09:20PM +, Steve Kennedy wrote: If I get a pgp/gpg message I now get [-- End of PGP output --] \012 [-- The following data is signed --] \012 I get ? instead of \012 I get \012 (normal color). This is the same without any color settings so there is an extra formfeed character floating around somewhere. \012 (10 is decimal) is a linefeed, isn't it? -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: Forwarding attachements...
Thus spake Matej Cepl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): My mutt does not automagically attach attachements of the original message being forwarded. What option does control this behavior? Have a look at mime_forward. I use this: message-hook . set mime_forward=no message-hook ~h multipart set mime_forward=ask-yes -- Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP/GnuPG Key ID 0xC9C40C31 (preferred) msg20878/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
Thomas Roessler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I've just released the next mutt beta, version 1.3.24i. And I've just updated the web site to this version, since it is a public beta. I've updated the official release areas (news, changes, manual, etc.) already, and I'll update the user-contributed info tonight when I get home. -- Jeremy Blosser msg20879/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
view html email?
Hi, all, I was just wondering how to view emails in html format by using links or lynx. Thanks, :) /Jun
Re: view html email?
I figured it out, add one entry 'text/html; links %s; needsterminal; nametemplate=%s.html' into ~/.mailcap. :) /Jun On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 06:25:41PM +0100, Jun Liu wrote: :Hi, all, : :I was just wondering how to view emails in html format by using links or :lynx. : :Thanks, :) : :/Jun
Re: default directory for change-folder
* Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011130 14:14]: At first it sounds good, but what happens if I want to change to an IMAP folder? Prepending = obviously doesn't work. Then just have a .muttrc option like Set enable_default_folder=yes for those that do not care about imap and how about another* option for those who prefer the '+'? really - what next? :set kitchen-sink=on? folks, get real - use a macro! :macro index c change-folder+ Sven [now, if someone would please change the default value for the attribution..] -- Sven Guckes[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html Need Help? Ask on the newsgroup comp.mail.mutt - or post to group de.comm.software.mailreader.misc!
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
* S. William Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:16:47PM +0100, René Clerc wrote: I don't know, David ;) It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a Perl version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby. I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too. I'll take mine in ruby please Initial perl version at: http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.pl Now who wants a tcl version? ;) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Attach encrypted Mail
Hi, I want to attach an encrypted mail to another mail, taken from my $record. The attachement only contains the header though. MIME-forward doesn't work either, same result. What am I missing here? Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: Script to rebuild quotes
Moin, * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-11-30 19:00]: * S. William Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:16:47PM +0100, René Clerc wrote: I'll wait for a perl copy, but I'm interested, too. I'll take mine in ruby please Initial perl version at: http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.pl Now who wants a tcl version? ;) What about INTERCAL? Thorsten -- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
Re: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Cristian wrote: There is another great use for an (optional) cursor in the internal pager -- you could avoid using the urlview ripper. The only feature I miss in Mutt compared to Pine 4 is just this: Within the ususal message view, you use up and down cursor keys to jump to a spot that looks like a URL oder Email address, hit enter (maybe edit the URL), and url_handler.sh gets you there. There may be people who got used to urlview but consider a typical digest email I get every day from LinguistList. This is what urlview extracts from it: ---snip--- 1 http://linguistlist.org/ ... 14 http://linguistlist.org/issues/12/12-2991.html ---snap--- I'm bad at remembering numbers. This is what the computer should do for me. You can also work around this problem by using w3m as your pager for these messages. w3m will identify URLs in the text and mark them as links. You can then move the cursor over a link and follow it using either w3m or an external browswer. http://w3m.sourceforge.net/index.en.html Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g., display-hook ~A 'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s reg headlines' 'set pager=w3m' Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Cristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mutt folks, (this idea is for the Mutt developers but since the thread came up here, I'm continuing here. Btw. -- sorry for my recent duplicate post. It won't happen again, folder-hook works for me now.) There is another great use for an (optional) cursor in the internal pager -- you could avoid using the urlview ripper. I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. While my implementation was going to be somewhat different, maybe the two will get combined. Hmm. I'll try to hack up a rough first cut to see whether my idea makes sense. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: default directory for change-folder
According to Sven Guckes on Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 06:56:11PM +0100: * Eric Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011130 14:14]: At first it sounds good, but what happens if I want to change to an IMAP folder? Prepending = obviously doesn't work. Then just have a .muttrc option like Set enable_default_folder=yes for those that do not care about imap and how about another* option for those who prefer the '+'? I never figured the difference between the '+' and the '=' in this context. really - what next? :set kitchen-sink=on? Funny, when I saw who was in the ^From: line, I knew there would be a comment like this - I was right ;) folks, get real - use a macro! :macro index c change-folder+ see my original email to see why this is unsuitable (for me). Nothing I have seen convinces me that this is not a sufficiently useful configurable option to make it standard. - well I tried ... -- Eric Smith
display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
Hi Gary and all,
why didn't I come up with this workaround? I use w3m regularly - I
hacked my url_handler.sh into calling it when no Netscape is running
(hardly recently) and as long as Opera refuses to take remote commands
(although it says it understands them, Opera 5 and Opera 6 TP1 don't).
The workaround does not help Schoeppi a bit, of course, but it's an
interesting idea in its own right.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that
you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g.,
display-hook ~A 'set pager=builtin'
display-hook '~s reg headlines' 'set pager=w3m'
Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more
than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control
to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt?
Surely, your proposed solution will help me to read LinguistList
digests, so thank you very much so far!
Cristian
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Re: mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
On 011130, at 07:34:02, Thomas Roessler wrote - There's a $wrapmargin variable which gives users some control over mutt's wrapping in the pager, and in the text/plain; format=flowed handler. The default value of this variable is 0. If $markers is set and $wrapmargin is set to a value that causes the text to be wrapped, the markers remain visible after wrapmargin is set to a value such that the text is no longer wrapped. -- David Ellement
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:32:19PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 23:21:27 -0800, Dairy Wall Limey wrote: hrmm this makes sense... setting this does change the number of '?'s... putting: set hide_missing gives one question mark, Here, I get several question marks ($hide_missing set). :( $hide_missing only hides the leading message if they can sensibly be hidden. is there a way to hide the question marks entirely as in older versions of mutt? I'd like this too. Well, this would lead to a certain amount of confusion, since the thread navigation commands know now that certain messages aren't really siblings, for instance. But hiding all the question marks would lose this visual information, so those commands would appear to fail randomly. However, this would be reasonably easy to do codewise. A better solution, though, would be to show only the question marks necessary to disambiguate things. This is possible but will take a little bit of work. I'll look into it. They are a problem in very long threads. I had a patch that added a $narrow_tree variable years ago, which made the thread tree take up only half as much screen real estate. Maybe it's time to resurrect this too. -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g., display-hook ~A 'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s reg headlines' 'set pager=w3m' Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? I don't think so. The problem is that you would have to use an external program to count the URLs and mutt doesn't send the message text to any external program (e.g., display_filter or pager) until it has decided which pager it is going to use. An external pager wrapper program could select among a set of external pagers, but it couldn't select mutt's internal pager. I also have Ctrl-B mapped to use w3m instead of urlview, so invoking w3m on a message I'm already reading with the built-in pager is pretty simple. I just wish I could tell w3m to always find and mark URLs as links instead of having to type ':' each time. Surely, your proposed solution will help me to read LinguistList digests, so thank you very much so far! You're welcome. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 15:09:36 -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: I had a patch that added a $narrow_tree variable years ago, which made the thread tree take up only half as much screen real estate. Maybe it's time to resurrect this too. Yes, I updated it to apply it to the latest Mutt versions (at least up to 1.3.22.1) and still use it. But it isn't even sufficient for very long threads. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:40:36PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? I don't think so. The problem is that you would have to use an external program to count the URLs and mutt doesn't send the message text to any external program (e.g., display_filter or pager) until it has decided which pager it is going to use. An external pager wrapper program could select among a set of external pagers, but it couldn't select mutt's internal pager. what if you set up a procmail filter, to add a header to messages with 3 or more urls, and then have mutt match that header? would that work? -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20894/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:54:33PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:40:36PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? I don't think so. The problem is that you would have to use an external program to count the URLs and mutt doesn't send the message text to any external program (e.g., display_filter or pager) until it has decided which pager it is going to use. An external pager wrapper program could select among a set of external pagers, but it couldn't select mutt's internal pager. what if you set up a procmail filter, to add a header to messages with 3 or more urls, and then have mutt match that header? would that work? Yes, I think that would work. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 15:09:36 -0500, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: I had a patch that added a $narrow_tree variable years ago, which made the thread tree take up only half as much screen real estate. Maybe it's time to resurrect this too. Yes, I updated it to apply it to the latest Mutt versions (at least up to 1.3.22.1) and still use it. But it isn't even sufficient for very long threads. has this feature been in the mainstream release in previous versions? the behavior appears different from that of 1.3.23i. i'd just like to restore the behavior of 1.3.23 (maybe i should just revert) so i guess my question is should there be a difference, given the same configuration files. i was perfectly happy with how it worked before. -- William Yardley System Administrator, Newdream Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
Daniel Eisenbud wrote: $hide_missing only hides the leading message if they can sensibly be hidden. sorry... one more thing: messages that have an asterisk (ie mutt is guessing based on subject line or whatever) seem to be showing up with a '?' after the asterisk, even in a thread that's new. obviously the '?' makes a bit of sense, (since we dont _know_ if there were other messages in this thread), but isn't this what the '*' denotes in the first place? having both is a bit visually distracting anyway i understand now basically what the purpose of the '?'s is... however i do think it will confuse people switching from earlier versions. it confused me at least. so maybe at least put a prominant notice about this in the release notes (i didn't see one) so that people don't think mutt is broken. -- William Yardley System Administrator, Newdream Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive your messages? A rare special case, especially since the majority of the lists I'm on don't even allow external posts. I subscribe to several lists (some bug reporting lists and developer lists) where it's very common for people who aren't subscribed to send messages to the list. Of course, list reply certain makes sense for lists that don't allow external posts. I'd rather one person with questionable reasons posting to the list not receive a message than 4 people receive two each. I always figured that, if it really annoys them, they should switch to an MUA that generates a Mail-Followup-To header (like Mutt) or one that handles duplicates really well (like Gnus). Sam
Re: [Announce] mutt-1.3.24i is out (BETA).
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 02:46:07PM -0800, Owner of many system processes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Eisenbud wrote: $hide_missing only hides the leading message if they can sensibly be hidden. sorry... one more thing: messages that have an asterisk (ie mutt is guessing based on subject line or whatever) seem to be showing up with a '?' after the asterisk, even in a thread that's new. obviously the '?' makes a bit of sense, (since we dont _know_ if there were other messages in this thread), but isn't this what the '*' denotes in the first place? having both is a bit visually distracting Here's the deal: the asterisk means that the message was attached by subject. The question mark denotes a missing reference. So if a message has an in-reply-to: header referring to a message not in the mailbox, its arrow will end with ?-. Mutt then, as before, tries to attach the message by subject, which if it does, will result in an arrow like `*?-. Having both tells you that there's a missing parent of the current message, and that there were no more references so the message was attached by subject. If there's no in-reply-to header, the parent might well be in the mailbox, but mutt has no way of knowing, and the arrow just looks like `*, as it did before. This is not a bug. anyway i understand now basically what the purpose of the '?'s is... however i do think it will confuse people switching from earlier versions. it confused me at least. so maybe at least put a prominant notice about this in the release notes (i didn't see one) so that people don't think mutt is broken. Agreed! -Daniel -- Daniel E. Eisenbud [EMAIL PROTECTED] We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms. --Henry David Thoreau, Walking
Maildir is not Updated
Hi, I just switched to Maildir. No mails are lost, but only one mailbox is not updated. The deleted mails are tagged, an they vanish when I sync the box. However, they are still in the 'new' subdirectory and displayed if I re-enter the box. I translated all boxes with Mutt. User and mode are inconspicous. Thorsten -- Das Briefgeheimnis sowie das Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis sind unverletzlich. - Grundgesetz, Artikel 10, Abs. 1
Re: display-hooking w3m / was: mutt for blind computerusers
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote: Hi Gary and all, why didn't I come up with this workaround? I use w3m regularly - I hacked my url_handler.sh into calling it when no Netscape is running (hardly recently) and as long as Opera refuses to take remote commands (although it says it understands them, Opera 5 and Opera 6 TP1 don't). The workaround does not help Schoeppi a bit, of course, but it's an interesting idea in its own right. On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g., display-hook ~A 'set pager=builtin' display-hook '~s reg headlines' 'set pager=w3m' Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more than, say, 3 URLs in a message body so it's worth to hand over control to w3m? Can you do it without slowing down the whole Mutt? Surely, your proposed solution will help me to read LinguistList digests, so thank you very much so far! ---end quoted text--- Cristian, it IS possible for Opera to take remote commands. I do it all the time. Try the following: /usr/bin/opera '%s,new-window' I use this with klipper in mandrake 8.0+. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: newbie question
Thanks for all of your help. Greg -- Greg Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20903/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To
Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always figured that, if it really annoys them, they should switch to an MUA that generates a Mail-Followup-To header (like Mutt) or -or Gnus- :) one that handles duplicates really well (like Gnus). It will be nice when other mailers (maybe even LookOut? perhaps in a couple years they will innovate this feature) implement this feature... Unfortunately, I think that World Peace (TM) will happen before this occurs. ttyl, -- Josh Huber | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Re: Signatures
* Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2001-24-11 20:17 +0100]: Just another quetion: Is there a possibility to tell mutt to coose the signature randomly out of a directory? I'll once again plug my approach, which is to use fortune for the random part of my sig. I don't generally like reinventing wheels. set signature=cat ~/sigs/prefix;/usr/games/fortune ~/sigs/sig_archive;cat ~/sigs/suffix | -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://linux.umbc.edu PGP public key fingerprint: 0A7D B3AD 2D10 1099 7649 AB64 04C2 05A6 --- -- Second Law of Fashion: Any female character's costume, no matter how outlandish, is always completely suitable to wear when climbing around in caves, hiking across the desert, and slogging through the sewers. -- Console Role Playing Game Clichés, item 73 --- --
pager strangeness in 1.3.24
I've noticed that with 1.3.24 with (allow_ansi as yes *or* no), I get the following on PGP signed messages in the pager: [-- End of PGP output --] \012 [-- The following data is signed --] \012 Is anyone else seeing this? I'm using aterm with TERM set to xterm-color and have had no problems prior to 1.3.24 (I'm guessing it has to do with the allow_ansi changes). I can duplicate this by reading any PGP signed message... - jim -- jim mock [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://soupnazi.org/ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
