Re: Set from shows no affect
Oliver Fuchs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: in my .muttrc file I set the option: set [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sending mail (sendmail) shows no affect in taking this address in the From Header (I use a genericstable). How can change this so that my Header is writen with the set from value? set realname=Oliver Fuchs set [EMAIL PROTECTED] set use_from # should be default set envelope_from # see manual section 6.3.43. HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Two questions
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * Benjamin Pflugmann [2002-06-04 01:24:14 CEST] wrote: % % Maybe I completely miss your point, as I am not sure why you would % want to do that. % % ...because I'm lazy. But I could think of other purposes as % well for a ``real'' batch mode, for example, when I want to % forward a bunch of mails to same address: inline and and one % by one. Maybe a tag-prefix pipe-message thru formail -r and hand to sendmail? You could even throw it into the background, like I do with what I hand to Vipul's Razor. % % Cheers, Rocco HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28565/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt is ignoring hidden files as mailboxes
So sprach Sven Guckes am 2002-06-04 um 02:43:05 +0200 : wouldn't that work? Yes, it would - and in fact that's what I'm doing now. However, for this to work, the $mask must be set to also include . files. See my bug report - 1206 or 1205, dunno. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 19 hours 19 minutes
uidl ??????
I just download Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) I did: mutt -f pop://server/ and it said: Command UIDL is not soported by server this server had work with pine, MS outlook, kmail, etc. and mutt can't work ? so bad..
IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
Hi, I'm connecting to a server that supports both imap and imaps, and even though I'm setting mutt to connect via imap, it asks me about the certificate and then seems to connect with SSL anyway. Is this a feature, or is something mixed up on my end? If it's a feature, I don't think it's a good one. Please cc me, since I'm not on the list. Thanks, Jeremy
Re: uidl ??????
Jose David Hidalgo Herrera wrote: I just download Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) I did: mutt -f pop://server/ and it said: Command UIDL is not soported by server this server had work with pine, MS outlook, kmail, etc. and mutt can't work ? so bad.. did you compile mutt with support for pop3? -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: Two questions
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 13:28:28 CEST] wrote: ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % ...because I'm lazy. But I could think of other purposes as % well for a ``real'' batch mode, for example, when I want to % forward a bunch of mails to same address: inline and and one % by one. Maybe a tag-prefix pipe-message thru formail -r and hand to sendmail? Wouldn't that send out just empty messages because I had no chance putting in some text? You could even throw it into the background, like I do with what I hand to Vipul's Razor. To clear things a little up, it was only a side note that ``;'' can only perform an action on all tagged messages while doing it one-by-one is not possible. Nothing more. Anyway, let me add that it's kind of funny how creative some people are in solving non-existing problems. ;-) I think we can stop this discussion right now... Cheers, Rocco
Re: uidl ??????
Will Yardley wrote: Jose David Hidalgo Herrera wrote: I just download Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) I did: mutt -f pop://server/ and it said: Command UIDL is not soported by server did you compile mutt with support for pop3? eek... sorry - it's late. didn't read that one carefully enough. -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: Two questions
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * David T-G [2002-06-04 13:28:28 CEST] wrote: % ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % ...because I'm lazy. But I could think of other purposes as % % well for a ``real'' batch mode, for example, when I want to % % forward a bunch of mails to same address: inline and and one % % by one. % % Maybe a tag-prefix pipe-message thru formail -r and hand % to sendmail? % % Wouldn't that send out just empty messages because I had no % chance putting in some text? Oh, right. Sorry. I often forward stuff without preamble anyway. % % You could even throw it into the background, like I do % with what I hand to Vipul's Razor. % % To clear things a little up, it was only a side note that % ``;'' can only perform an action on all tagged messages % while doing it one-by-one is not possible. Nothing more. Right. So you offload the one-by-one to something else... % % Anyway, let me add that it's kind of funny how creative some % people are in solving non-existing problems. ;-) Well, of course; those are the best, and nobody ever really disproves your solutions in practice! % % I think we can stop this discussion right now... No, wait! Not yet! % % Cheers, Rocco HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28572/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Set from shows no affect
On Tue, 04 Jun 2002, Michael Tatge wrote: set realname=Oliver Fuchs set [EMAIL PROTECTED] set use_from # should be default set envelope_from # see manual section 6.3.43. Thank you, now it works corrctly ... did not knew to set envelope_from additional Oliver -- WARNING! POISON! BREATHING THE VAPOR, SKIN OR EYE CONTACT, OR SWALLOWING THE FRUIT CAN KILL YOU! Contamination causes sudden-onset limb numbness, muscle weakness, intractable hiccups, consciousness disturbance of various degrees and seizure. Fire fighting gear (including SCBA) provides NO protection. If exposure occurs, remove and isolate gear immediately and thoroughly decontaminate personnel. REACTS WITH WATER OR ACID TO PRODUCE TOXIC HYDROGEN CYANIDE! DON'T TOUCH THE BANG-BANG FRUIT.
Re: Changing from address
I was really thinking something more of a one keystroke macro kinda thing that would immediately change my from address etc... Your solution is nice, but it a) waits until sending, and b) relies on the to address. I want to be able to change froms regardless of to. Anyone else? -Mike Arrison On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:47:04AM +0200, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: How about using a send-hook that checks for the to/from/cc. Mine for this list looks like (1-1 copy from my muttrc): send-hook '~C ^mutt-(users|dev)@mutt\.org$ | ~f ^benjamin-mutt@pflugmann\.de$' ' \ my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; \ set attribution=On %d, %F wrote: ; \ set signature=~/.signature_mutt ; \ set pgp_sign_as=0xDA119C70 ' # in contrast to '~C listadress ( ~P | ~p )' this rule will also # catch private mail which relates to the list. send-hook assures the # correct mail address is set. fcc-save-hook '~f ^benjamin-mutt@pflugmann\.de$ | \ ~C ^benjamin-mutt@pflugmann\.de$' =archive/rmutt.gz fcc-save-hook '~C ^mutt-dev@mutt\.org$' =archive/mutt_dev.gz fcc-save-hook '~C ^mutt-users@mutt\.org$' =archive/mutt_user.gz HTH, Benjamin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing from address
Mike -- ...and then Mike Arrison said... % % I was really thinking something more of a one keystroke macro kinda Ah. % thing that would immediately change my from address etc... Your % solution is nice, but it a) waits until sending, and b) relies on the to So set $edit_hdrs and do it inside your editor, or write the message block out to a tmp file, junk the message, reply as you should have, and read the block back in. % address. I want to be able to change froms regardless of to. Anyone % else? HTH HAND % % -Mike Arrison :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28575/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: scoring
X-Mailer: Mutt-1.3.27i (Debian Linux 2.4.16, i686) User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Aha, still suffering from schizophrenia! ;) Hey people. Hi Michael, Is there a way to use scoring as a primary sort method but still have threading take effect? I tried putting threads as an aux sort, but it just sort of groups them together, it doesn't thread them. I think what you need is the new threading patch from Daniel Eisenbud. It is for the unstable branch. Have a look at the mutt-dev archives, last month. -- Cedric
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
At 23:25 -0700 03 Jun 2002, Jeremy Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm connecting to a server that supports both imap and imaps, and even though I'm setting mutt to connect via imap, it asks me about the certificate and then seems to connect with SSL anyway. Is this a feature, or is something mixed up on my end? If it's a feature, I don't think it's a good one. This is a feature, and I suspect that you'd be in a minority for thinking that having security is a bad thing. Also, this feature is needed for connecting securely to servers that don't accept connections on the imaps port, but instead support the STARTTLS extension on the normal imap port. You can likely disable this feature with set ssl_starttls=no. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ ... who knows how many AI projects are reading slashdot these days? -- Larry Wall http://www.perl.com/pub/1999/08/onion/talk1.html
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
* Mike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 12:51]: I was really thinking something more of a one keystroke macro kinda thing that would immediately change my from address etc... Your solution is nice, but it a) waits until sending, and b) relies on the to address. I want to be able to change froms regardless of to. Anyone else? set edit_hdrs and use your editor to make the change. if your editor happens to be vim then you can do it with a mapping like these: map #F1 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc map #F2 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5.1i (No Microsoft client in sight) it's the right attitude - but you should upgrade to mutt 1.4 now. by the way, if you are subscribed to this list then please change lists mutt-users to subscribe mutt-users - thankyou! and please dont send TOFU (text oben, fullquote unten). thanks. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] use lists address when you are *not* subscribed use subscribe address when you *are* subscribed - http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/setup.html
key macros
This works macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift nor Ctrl keys.
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
Sven, set edit_hdrs and use your editor to make the change. Agreed, I think that'll be for the best. map #F1 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc map #F2 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc Perfect, thank you. Except that I didn't mention my email addresses... looking up on me, eh? X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5.1i (No Microsoft client in sight) Oh fine... upgrade complete by the way, if you are subscribed to this list then please change lists mutt-users to subscribe mutt-users - thankyou! Thanks for the tip and please dont send TOFU (text oben, fullquote unten). thanks. I was unfamiliar with the acronym, but I think I figured it out, yes? -Mike Arrison
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
Mike -- ...and then Mike Arrison said... % % Sven, % % set edit_hdrs and use your editor to make the change. % % Agreed, I think that'll be for the best. Glad to hear it. % %map #F1 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc %map #F2 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc % % Perfect, thank you. Except that I didn't mention my email addresses... % looking up on me, eh? *grin* % % X-Mailer: Mutt 1.2.5.1i (No Microsoft client in sight) % % Oh fine... upgrade complete I think he was pointing out the fact that your X-Mailer: header did not match your User-Agent: header. Now it even more doesn't. % % by the way, if you are subscribed to this list then please % change lists mutt-users to subscribe mutt-users - thankyou! % % Thanks for the tip Back to the manual; there's always something fun to learn :-) % % and please dont send TOFU (text oben, fullquote unten). thanks. % % I was unfamiliar with the acronym, but I think I figured it out, yes? You did, indeed. Congratulations! % % -Mike Arrison HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28581/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros
Kurt -- ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. For control you can probably use \cF2 in the typical ctrl- notation (well, typical for mutt, anyway, though I've seen it elsewhere). I suppose you'll have to whip out your term program to see what keycode shft-F2 generates and work from there, but perhaps someone can come along and provide a better idea. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. Indeed. For control you can probably use \cF2 Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Cheers, Rocco
Re: key macros
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 11:32]: Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % This works % macro index f2 change-folder~/Mail/mutt\n % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. That's an interesting one. Indeed. For control you can probably use \cF2 Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Same here, I get 'key is not bound'. Which makes you think it is possible. I noticed that on my keyboard that f11 == pressing Shift + F1, f12 == Shift + F2, etc...
Re: key macros
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:50:33 CEST] wrote: % ...and then Kurt Hindenburg said... % ... % % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find ... % For control you can probably use % %\cF2 % % Tried it? Doesn't work (here). Darn. Back to the key codes, I guess. There's a handy utility that spits out the keycodes it gets, though I'm sure the equivalent could be whipped in perl as a one-liner. Anybody recall it? % % Cheers, Rocco HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28585/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: key macros
Kurt Hindenburg wrote: Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift nor Ctrl keys. There is no way (that I know of, and I'm sure Thomas Dickey will correct me here if I'm wrong) to use control or shift with function keys.
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
* On 2002.06.04, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 23:25 -0700 03 Jun 2002, Jeremy Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm connecting to a server that supports both imap and imaps, and even though I'm setting mutt to connect via imap, it asks me about the certificate and then seems to connect with SSL anyway. Is this a feature, or is something mixed up on my end? If it's a feature, I don't think it's a good one. This is a feature, and I suspect that you'd be in a minority for thinking that having security is a bad thing. Also, this feature is I'm not sure about that. It depends on setting -- in some cases, I might really want to connect on a plaintext port and not negotiate TLS -- for example, if I'm testing my IMAP server, or debugging my client's SSL installation through contrapositive proof. :) needed for connecting securely to servers that don't accept connections on the imaps port, but instead support the STARTTLS extension on the normal imap port. You can likely disable this feature with set ssl_starttls=no. Yes, exactly -- it should never use SSL when told not to, but setting ssl_starttls is equivalent to telling mutt to use TLS when available. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:55:28AM -0500, David Champion wrote: needed for connecting securely to servers that don't accept connections on the imaps port, but instead support the STARTTLS extension on the normal imap port. You can likely disable this feature with set ssl_starttls=no. Yes, exactly -- it should never use SSL when told not to, but setting ssl_starttls is equivalent to telling mutt to use TLS when available. you mean it should always use SSL unless not told to, right? I still can't think of a single reason (aside from testing) that you will prefer the plaintext over SSL, by default. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg28588/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:48:40 CEST] wrote: ...and then Mike Arrison said... % and please dont send TOFU (text oben, fullquote % unten). % I was unfamiliar with the acronym, but I think I figured % it out, yes? You did, indeed. Congratulations! Is ``TOFU'' only known here because Sven mentions it or may I assume that it is commonly known (well, I'd better write more commonly known)? Cheers, Rocco
Re: key macros
* On 2002.06.04, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a handy utility that spits out the keycodes it gets, though I'm sure the equivalent could be whipped in perl as a one-liner. Anybody recall it? You might be thinking of dumpkeys, but it's a Linux thing. Anyway, keycodes are keyboard event numbers, and they don't necessarily correspond to ASCII key sequences that the terminal emulation can respond to. There are no particular control-function or shift-function codes that I'm aware of. OTOH, depending on your OS, you could remap those input events via the keyboard driver and keymap settings to send some other terminal sequence, so that, for example, control-f1 delivers an ESC-O + ESC-D, or some such complexity. That could be remapped inside mutt. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: key macros
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Elkins said... % % Kurt Hindenburg wrote: % Let's say I want to use Ctrl F2 or Shift F2. I could not find % anything in the manual. I did see ESC, but nothing for the Shift % nor Ctrl keys. % % There is no way (that I know of, and I'm sure Thomas Dickey will correct % me here if I'm wrong) to use control or shift with function keys. It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running echo ctl-v f1 | ... echo ctl-v shf-f1 | ... echo ctl-v ctl-ft | ... we get 27 79 80 27 91 50 51 126 27 79 80 (where F1 and Ctl-F1 appear as '^[OP' and Shf-F1 is '^[[23~'), so there is no difference whatsoever between F1 and C-F1, while S-F1 might be tricky to recognize because it's longer (and, in fact, the same as F11, as Kurt showed). Hmmm... The keyboard stops at F12, but Shf-F3 carries on in the same fashion. Perhaps one could use the shifted keys as long as one expects to only go 1-10 and for 1112 to be mapped back over to the other side... Anyway, I've forgotten how to (if you can!) define macros by key code, but perhaps a macro rather than a binding would do the trick. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28591/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % ... % Is ``TOFU'' only known here because Sven mentions it or may % I assume that it is commonly known (well, I'd better write % more commonly known)? I think Sven made it up the other day. Check the archives for the first occurrence, IIRC within the past week or two. % % Cheers, Rocco HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28592/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
* On 2002.06.04, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:55:28AM -0500, David Champion wrote: needed for connecting securely to servers that don't accept connections on the imaps port, but instead support the STARTTLS extension on the normal imap port. You can likely disable this feature with set ssl_starttls=no. Yes, exactly -- it should never use SSL when told not to, but setting ssl_starttls is equivalent to telling mutt to use TLS when available. you mean it should always use SSL unless not told to, right? No, I don't care to stake an opinion on what the default should be. I only mean that it should never use SSL when instructed not to use SSL. I still can't think of a single reason (aside from testing) that you will prefer the plaintext over SSL, by default. I can, but I don't care to get into it. I've already lost too many precious days of my life to arguing about such trivialities as whether John Ashcroft knows that snake-oil salesmen and fraudulent junta commandos are offering me an ill-gained Nigerian fortunes and extensions to my manhood. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: IMAP uses SSL even when not requested
David, et al -- ...and then David Champion said... % ... % I still can't think of a single reason (aside from testing) that you % will prefer the plaintext over SSL, by default. % % I can, but I don't care to get into it. I've already lost too many % precious days of my life to arguing about such trivialities as whether % John Ashcroft knows that snake-oil salesmen and fraudulent junta % commandos are offering me an ill-gained Nigerian fortunes and extensions % to my manhood. Oh, come on. You have to admit that the MAKE P3N1S FAST pyramid scheme is beautiful in its simplicity, and colorful, too! % % -- % -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28594/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: indicator color question
I believe there was some talk about this being incorporated into Mutt. Anyone know the status, or how to turn it on if it's there? It was put in CVS quite a while ago; i'm not sure what versions of mutt include it, though. You don't need to do anything special to turn it on; just leave the indicator setting at its default, which i believe is: mono indicator reverse -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg28595/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
TOFU
TOFU - Text Oben Fullquote Unten The acronym is well known - well at least in Germany. The phenomenon is widely spread of cause. Esp. from those OE users. Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: Hi, * David T-G [2002-06-04 17:48:40 CEST] wrote: ...and then Mike Arrison said... % and please dont send TOFU (text oben, fullquote % unten). % I was unfamiliar with the acronym, but I think I figured % it out, yes? You did, indeed. Congratulations! Is ``TOFU'' only known here because Sven mentions it or may I assume that it is commonly known (well, I'd better write more commonly known)? Cheers, Rocco Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: TOFU
Hi, On 04 Jun 2002, Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TOFU - Text Oben Fullquote Unten The acronym is well known - well at least in Germany. The phenomenon is widely spread of cause. Esp. from those OE users. If you don't like TOFU, you'll probably like t-prot (a little TOFU protection script). http://www.escape.de/users/tolot/mutt/ Hth, Jochen. -- Your lucky number is 3552664958674928. Watch for it everywhere.
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
* David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 17:21]: ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % Is ``TOFU'' only known here because Sven mentions it % or may I assume that it is commonly known (well, % I'd better write more commonly known)? I think Sven made it up the other day. Check the archives for the first occurrence, IIRC within the past week or two. David - TOFU is a well-known acronym here in Krautland. But I hereby create a new acronym - especially for you: ELQ - the Empty Lines Quoter. Here's your prize: A *new* signature: David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka DTG the ELQ quoting empty lines galore since yymmdd. www.justpickone.org/davidtg + www.pickanotherone.org/davidtg Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg naq nyy fvyyl npebalzf! Ain't you happy? You are welcome. Sven [Acronyms R Us]
Re: Changing from address - set edit_hdrs
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 16:18 +0200]: * Mike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 12:51]: I was really thinking something more of a one keystroke macro kinda thing that would immediately change my from address etc... Your solution is nice, but it a) waits until sending, and b) relies on the to address. I want to be able to change froms regardless of to. Anyone else? set edit_hdrs and use your editor to make the change. if your editor happens to be vim then you can do it with a mapping like these: map #F1 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc map #F2 1G/^From: /e+1CRCMike Arrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]Esc I use the following to set the From address: macro compose v edit-from^Uf_tab Absender wählen alias f_de Nicolas Rachinsky xxx alias f_net Nicolas Rachinsky xxx Nicolas
Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
* David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04]: It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. man dumpkeys man showkey and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for pressing Extended-Meta-Alternate-Control-Shift - forget all about it when using mutt (or whataever) within a terminal over some connection. Sven [always using ASCII - because it *works*]
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
Sven --
...and then Sven Guckes said...
%
% * David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 17:21]:
...
% I think Sven made it up the other day. Check the archives
% for the first occurrence, IIRC within the past week or two.
%
% David - TOFU is a well-known acronym here in Krautland.
Ah. So I hear now :-)
%
% But I hereby create a new acronym - especially for you:
% ELQ - the Empty Lines Quoter. Here's your prize:
Hey, cool!
That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like
% here is some text
% and a comment
% and some more
% you said it
what?
is much more difficult to read than the original expanded version.
That's why I started putting blank lines between the original body
and my reply after only a few months of replying the scrunched-up way.
FWIW, I don't use color and so retorts like but it's green and then
blue and then green again; it's obvious! are fairly unproductive.
%
% A *new* signature:
%
% David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% aka DTG the ELQ quoting empty lines galore since yymmdd.
% www.justpickone.org/davidtg + www.pickanotherone.org/davidtg
Please buy me all three of pickanotherone.{com,org,net}; I like to be
thorough.
% Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg naq nyy fvyyl npebalzf!
Hey, I like silly acronyms!
%
% Ain't you happy?
I sure am; thanks.
% You are welcome.
%
% Sven [Acronyms R Us]
Thanks HAND
:-D the only true ELQ
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Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
Sven, et al -- ...and then Sven Guckes said... % % * David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04]: % It looks like that's the case for Ctl, anyway, and maybe for Shf. % Given, thanks to my new friend Bob, the handy %perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' % to take input per line and spit out key codes and then running % % kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. Hey, if it works... % % man dumpkeys % man showkey The former was pointed out to me earlier, and I'm grateful for the pointer to the latter, though I had seen it but couldn't use it. I tried looking a bit for these sorts of things earlier and got something much like [zero] [3:19pm] ~ man -k key | grep code keybound (3ncurses) - return definition of keycode .. showkey (1) - examine the codes sent by the keyboard define_key (3ncurses) - define a keycode .. getkeycodes (8) - print kernel scancode-to-keycode mapping table keyok (3ncurses) - enable or disable a keycode .. setkeycodes (8) - load kernel scancode-to-keycode mapping table entries but trying something that looked promising yielded [zero] [3:19pm] ~ showkey Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console and so I didn't really bother to pursue it much more. After all, I'm not the one who's trying to bind shifted function keys. % % and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for Well, that sort of assumes you're running under X, now, doesn't it? % pressing Extended-Meta-Alternate-Control-Shift - % forget all about it when using mutt (or whataever) % within a terminal over some connection. % % Sven [always using ASCII - because it *works*] It sure does! Thanks HAND :-D the only true ELQ -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28602/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: indicator color question
* On Tue, 04 Jun 2002, Mike Schiraldi wrote: It was put in CVS quite a while ago; i'm not sure what versions of mutt include it, though. Doesn't seem to be in 1.3.99 or 1.4 (just upgraded). I tried commenting out all indicator color and mono commands. I'm using S-Lang -- would that matter? Is it part of v1.5? -- John
text/plain is unsupported?
I just got this e-mail message, and when I looked at it in the pager, all I saw was this: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 02:40:08 From: Ryan Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Classic Cars or parts for sale [-- text/plain, is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] Is this a bug in mutt, or was that message just badly formed MIME? ---BeginMessage--- Hi, I was just wondering if you had any Classic Cars or parts for sale. Please let me know either way. Thanks, Ryan Edwards ---End Message---
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
--+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like =20 % here is some text % and a comment % and some more % you said it what? =20 is much more difficult to read than the original expanded version. That's why I started putting blank lines between the original body=20 and my reply after only a few months of replying the scrunched-up way. FWIW, I don't use color and so retorts like but it's green and then blue and then green again; it's obvious! are fairly unproductive. But it's yellow then red then yellow then green then white! it's obvious! ;) Actually, even with different colors I find it hard to read. I think that the way I quote is perfect; you should all follow my example ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. -- Franklin K. Dane --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/TeYPTh2iSBKeccRApilAJ9vxBfY3iUPivcklpBcPrPP5OILAQCfesPP L5RqURw8Xi/LLCS5OSIIWNs= =vZLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl--
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like This part is kind of a pain; you should skip a line like I do. Other than that... % ... % That's why I started putting blank lines between the original body % and my reply after only a few months of replying the scrunched-up way. % FWIW, I don't use color and so retorts like but it's green and then % blue and then green again; it's obvious! are fairly unproductive. % % But it's yellow then red then yellow then green then white! it's % obvious! ;) Oh, well, *that* makes a difference. % % Actually, even with different colors I find it hard to read. I think % that the way I quote is perfect; you should all follow my example ;) It seems that we are of fairly like mind. If you'd only leave a line below your 'Alas!' at the top and switch to the One True Indent Char then you'd have it all wrapped up! % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ HAND :-D the one true ELQ -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg28606/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: text/plain is unsupported?
Note the comma in text/plain,. I'd say it's an error in the incoming message. On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:56:33PM -0400, Philip Mak wrote: I just got this e-mail message, and when I looked at it in the pager, all I saw was this: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 02:40:08 From: Ryan Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Classic Cars or parts for sale [-- text/plain, is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] Is this a bug in mutt, or was that message just badly formed MIME? From: Ryan Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Classic Cars or parts for sale Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 02:40:08 -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Each man is his own prisoner, in solitary confinement for life.
Re: TOFU and the ELQ
--FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Rob -- =20 ...and then Feztaa said... =20 Alas! David T-G spake thus: That's great, because I've thought for a long that something like =20 This part is kind of a pain; you should skip a line like I do. Other than that... You mean like this?: Blah No, that wouldn't be kosher. But it's yellow then red then yellow then green then white! it's obvious! ;) =20 Oh, well, *that* makes a difference. But of course ;) Actually, even with different colors I find it hard to read. I think that the way I quote is perfect; you should all follow my example ;) =20 It seems that we are of fairly like mind. If you'd only leave a line below your 'Alas!' at the top and switch to the One True Indent Char then you'd have it all wrapped up! No, a space after the attribution looks weird. And I already use the OTIC ;) =20 --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ quoting a sig? For shame, sir, for shame... ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/ -- What good is a ticket to the good life, if you can't find the entrance? --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/UGpPTh2iSBKeccRAiffAJ0birQVz9dLthQ7HCvJkVyzmOFQdQCcC69W A4Ni5jOEZIuUbdm9DkRMREY= =75mH -END PGP SIGNATURE- --FCuugMFkClbJLl1L--
Re: key macros - dumpkeys + showkey
* DavidThorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 20:23]: %perl -lpe '$_ = join , unpack(c*, $_)' % kewl. talk about killing a sparrow with perl.. Hey, if it works... overkill. [zero] [3:19pm] ~ man -k key | grep code some people will know man -k as apropos.. but trying something that looked promising yielded [zero] [3:19pm] ~ showkey Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console well, you need to use it on the console, i guess. and so I didn't really bother to pursue it much more. After all, I'm not the one who's trying to bind shifted function keys. % and even if you'll get xmodmap to do something for Well, that sort of assumes you're running under X, now, doesn't it? sort of. it was just an example. Thanks HAND :-D the only true ELQ that reminds me to update my display_filter... Sven
Re: indicator color question
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-04 03:24]: color indicator white red one fg/bg color combination - that's it. Yeah, I have my colors set, but I wanted another combo for another condition besides default. well, you can change settings within mutt automatically with hooks - but there's no hook for moving the indicator, so.. Oh well. Not like I can really complain with all the options mutt gives you. :) yup - it's not easy. feature. Actually, to quote Adam Iser, who wrote Adium, an awesome AIM client for Mac OS X, So many settings, you'll crap your pants. :) shit happens ;-) Sven -- CATHOLICISM: If Shit Happens, I Deserve It. HARE KRISHNA:Shit Happens Rama Rama Ding Ding. RASTAFARIANISM: Let's Smoke This Shit. ZEN: What Is The Sound Of Shit Happening?
Re: mail (and any text) indexing - glimpse
* Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-05-24 04:52]: What I know is that I **badly** need a fast way to type some keywords/parts of sentences, and find all the relevant files on my drive *and* email messages where I or somebody else already wrote about it. glimpse - http://webglimpse.org/glimpsehelp.html It should be useable from the command line, from mutt, and from Emacs too. well, both emacs and mutt allow to call a subshell, so... Sven
Re: TOFU
Hi, * Michael Tatge [2002-06-04 20:21:07 CEST] wrote: TOFU - Text Oben Fullquote Unten The acronym is well known - well at least in Germany. The phenomenon is widely spread of cause. Esp. from those OE users. l So, there's no real equivalent term outside .de, I guess? Cheers, Rocco
