Re: Outlook warning bar - colors of warning
* Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-20 12:41]: On Thu, Jun 20, 2002, Mike Arrison wrote: Back when I used Outlook as an email client I often saw something like This is a bad email client in a warning bar in some emails. What header does that? Probably the X-Sven header. ;-) *grin* No - it's the X-Mailer header. Look: X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 so there you are. and this is how to be warned: color header white magenta ^X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service color header white magenta ^X-Mailer: Microsoft and here is yet another warning: # When the Subject indicates a reply (with :re) # then there *must* be a reference to the previous message! # So if there is neither an In-Reply-To nor a References line # then it must have been sent with a crappy mailer color index yellow magenta ~s re: ! ~x . ! ~h 'in-reply-to: ' You have been warned!! - *two* exclamations marks! Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED]LookOutExpress! http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/outlookexpress/Outcast/Outage Excess Please turn off sending Emails in HTML! Here's how:Doubtlook Distress Extras:Optionen:Senden:Nachricht_Senden-Format:Nur-Text Out-of-luck-Express
Re: Outlook warning bar
* David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-20]: There's someone who's even more anti-Outhouse than I over on the qmail list, and he pointed me to http://my.gnus.org/Lisp/1012611457 for some fun reading. That'll probably do the trick nicely. It's even non-discriminatory; he at least hates WebTV users, too! Robin is non-discriminatory? Hey, you just discriminated him! Sven [summoning Robin from the depths of LISP] -- PINE Quotes: And before Robin stamps on you, this is not a Pine question. I think all the power users have joined the mutt camp! --Nancy McGough
yet another outlook question
hi all, is it possible for mutt to scan the headers of a message one is replying to and set certain parameters based on regexs? basically what i want is for mutt to set p_c_t if it sees a x-mailer that looks like outlook. is this possible? thanks, -- Peter Abplanalp Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP: pgp.mit.edu msg29095/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
random header script?
I think I remember a while back someone haveing a script to take lines randomly from a text file to put into a custom header. Does anyone have this? Basically I want to insert into that Outhouse header random lines from a text file I made from the Surrealist Compliment Generator. :) Thanks. -Ken
Re: random header script?
Alas! Ken Weingold spake thus:
I think I remember a while back someone haveing a script to take lines
randomly from a text file to put into a custom header. Does anyone
have this? Basically I want to insert into that Outhouse header
random lines from a text file I made from the Surrealist Compliment
Generator. :)
This is trivial to do in perl:
open FILE, file.txt;
while (FILE)
{
push lines, $_;
}
print $lines[int(rand(lines))];
(it's untested, but it probably works). Of course, you'll have to modify
it to output the appropriate email header and whatnot.
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Re: random header script?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:49:37PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
This is trivial to do in perl:
open FILE, file.txt;
while (FILE)
{
push lines, $_;
}
print $lines[int(rand(lines))];
or, the more efficient way:
open FILE, file.txt or die $!;
rand($.) 1 ($line = $_) while FILE;
close FILE;
print $line;
from perldoc -q random
:)
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Linux MVP
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Re: random header script?
Thanks for the quick replies. It works. Too cool. -Ken
patch-1.3.26.dw.pgp-hook.3 for 1.5.1
Hallo, does anybody know how/where to get patch-1.3.26.dw.pgp-hook.3 for mutt-1.5.1. I seem to be unable to reach Dale Woolridge. Thanks Nicolas
problems with mutt lastest
hi, i got mutt latest, i use imapssl to get my email with mutt. when i run mutt, it doesnt apper my checked emails and all the mailbox seems empty. how works the relation between mutt-imap, /var/mail/me and $HOME/mbox ? How can i keep my readed mail in the 'mailbox' that mutt load each time i run it? bye.
freebsd and libiconv again
Hi, all -- I'm changing servers and get to build my huge 1.4 cocktail under FreeBSD 4.5 (and all in the next couple of days, too, if I want to have mail when I land!). Unfortunately, I'm running into the same sorts of problems as other people reported under FreeBSD: my libiconv stuff appears to not be found. In /usr/local I have a libiconv and a libgiconv (bt no libbiconv), and now in my own tree I have GNU libiconv 1.8. No amount of mucking about with --with-iconv-prefix or --with-iconv will let make succeed (even without any patches); I get the gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../intl -I../intl -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c auth.c In file included from ../mutt.h:51, from auth.c:23: ../charset.h:39: syntax error before `ICONV_CONST' *** Error code 1 error. Help! TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29102/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: random header script?
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Alas! Dan Boger spake thus:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 02:49:37PM -0600, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
This is trivial to do in perl:
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or, the more efficient way:
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rand($.) 1 ($line =3D $_) while FILE;
close FILE;
print $line;
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from perldoc -q random
Sure, that works; but you can't repeat it without rewinding to the
beginning of the file. With mine, you can call that print statement as
many times as you want ;)
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Rob 'Feztaa' Park
http://members.shaw.ca/feztaa/
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A: You don't have to shake the Mac to clear the screen.
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Re: freebsd and libiconv again
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002, David T-G wrote: I'm changing servers and get to build my huge 1.4 cocktail under FreeBSD 4.5 (and all in the next couple of days, too, if I want to have mail when I land!). Unfortunately, I'm running into the same sorts of problems as other people reported under FreeBSD: my libiconv stuff appears to not be found. In /usr/local I have a libiconv and a libgiconv (bt no libbiconv), and now in my own tree I have GNU libiconv 1.8. No amount of mucking about with --with-iconv-prefix or --with-iconv will let make succeed (even without any patches); I get the Sorry if this is a dumb question, but did you use: --with-libiconv=/usr/local ? that works for me. Without it part or all is not found. -Ken
Re: freebsd and libiconv again
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % % On Thu, Jun 20, 2002, David T-G wrote: % I'm changing servers and get to build my huge 1.4 cocktail under FreeBSD ... % about with --with-iconv-prefix or --with-iconv will let make succeed % (even without any patches); I get the % % Sorry if this is a dumb question, but did you use: There are no dumb questions, especially in tech support :-) % % --with-libiconv=/usr/local Yes, I did, though I forgot to note it; I just scrolled back and checked. % % ? that works for me. Without it part or all is not found. Looks like there were other problems for me :-( % % % -Ken Thanks HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29105/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Outlook warning bar
Probably the X-Sven header. ;-) ROFLMAO! :))
Re: freebsd and libiconv again
Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Kennedy said... % ... % CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib -liconv ./configure -- % with-domain=xxx.net --enable-hidden-host --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-catg % ets --with-libiconv-prefix=/usr/local --enable-mailtool --with-homespool=.mail % % That sort of did the right thang. Adding CFLAGS and LDFLAGS worked for me; I was able to go back to putting /usr/local in the libiconv prefix. Yippee! % % Then edit config.h and fix the two iconv bits that aren't defined % (i.e. % /* Define if you have the iconv.h header file. */ % #define HAVE_ICONV_H 1 % % /* Define as const if the declaration of iconv() needs const. */ % #define ICONV_CONST const % % /* Define if iconv.h defines iconv_t. */ % #define HAVE_ICONV_T_DEF 1 % % (it may have been 1st and 3rd that weren't set). Interestingly enough, these weren't necessary, even though not all of them were set. Doesn't matter to me; I have versions to build and more moving to do :-) % % Then make and all is fine. % % Steve Thanks! HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29107/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: freebsd and libiconv again
* On 2002.06.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are no dumb questions, especially in tech support :-) Oh, I have to disagree. ME: So, I'm at my [DSL] router's console, and when I type connect atm-0 it tells me that the link can't be established. I've confirmed my settings with sys show, and they're all the same as before, except for this one value that seems to drift occasionally. The router won't respond on any ports; I have the web administration interface disabled. TS: Ok, are you using Internet Explorer or Netscape to look at that web page? We recommend Internet Explorer. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Threading on an arbitrary header?
Hi. On Thu 2002-06-20 at 16:56:24 +1000, Scott Howard wrote: I'm fairly certain this isn't possible, but... Our helpdesk system sends out emails every time a task/case/request is created/updated/closed/etc. These take the form of something like : 17 + Jun 17 Helpdesk ( 0) New Task - Task#: 12345678 18 + Jun 17 Helpdesk ( 0) Task Updated - Task#: 12345678 19 + Jun 17 Helpdesk ( 0) Task Closed - Task#: 12345678 I'd like to be able to get mutt to thread these messages together as a single thread, but I can't see an easy way to do it. It has some side-effects which may be unwanted, but the following regexp should make mutt view those subject as belonging to one thread, by telling it to consider the beginning up to Task#: reply mark (i.e. like Re: ): set reply_regexp=.* - Task#: unset strict_threads # that's the default set sort_re # that's the default Of course, you probably want to set it for the folder in question, let's say support: folder-hook . 'set reply_regexp=^(re|aw|sv):[ \t]*; ' folder-hook =support 'set reply_regexp=^.* - Task#: ' (the latter is the default, change it to whatever you want). The mail all runs through procmail, so I can get procmail to put in a header such as : X-Task-Num: 12345678 but short of hacking the code I can't see a way to use that as the key for threading. Probably it would be more useful, if the subject would start with the task number, as reply_regexp wouldn't have to include the real subject part. Additionally a short test showed that it (changing reply_regexp) will only work, if no valid References and In-Reply-To headers are given, else it will use them - being more precise information. But from what you wrote, these shouldn't be given (else you wouldn't have that threading problem, would you?). Bye, Benjamin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29109/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
regexps under linux vs freebsd
Hi, all -- I have a couple of lines like fcc-save-hook (s(ue|)shaw)=D.oaks/%_%O which cause mutt some unhappiness when built under freebsd 4.5 though they were fine under Linux 2.2 and 2.4. When I start mutt I get Error in /home/davidtg/.mutt/muttrc, line 395: empty (sub)expression and can only figure that it doesn't like the right half of (ue|) because changing that to (ue|.) (even though that breaks the match) runs with no errors. Is there anything funky to know about regexps and mutt under *bsd? TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29110/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: random header script?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Sure, that works; but you can't repeat it without rewinding to the beginning of the file. With mine, you can call that print statement as many times as you want ;) One issue. It seems to run the script only once, when I start mutt, so I always get the same line from the file. Do I not have the correct syntax for it? This is my header: my_hdr X-Message-Flag: `$HOME/bin/random.pl` Thanks. -Ken
Re: When is encoding updated?
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 05:27:29AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Charles -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % It's unclear to me when mutt is supposed to ask me to update encoding. % % What causes mutt to hit that flag? It's unclear to me from the sources % whether it's something mutt netotiates with the receiver or what. First go back and check the archives; this has come up often. Didn't understand the answers . . . The usual cause is a timestamp difference; mutt fires off your editor, you edit the message and save and quit, and mutt takes you to the compose screen, but before the mail is sent the timestamp on the message file changes. When it looks to mutt as though the message file has been changed, it offers to check to make sure that whatever it chose (plain text, Q-P, base64) is still the best way to send the mail. H . . . so the fact that my computer is slow does it? Are you using disk space on a network server? I recommend checking the clock on your PC and on the server and making sure they're synchronized. If you aren't, then we have some more digging to do. Nope. Before the Cygwin port came out, I'd built it myself, but had the same thing happen. It's not exactly a problem, I suppose. % I'm using the Cygwin port, with ssmpt as my mta. ssmtp shouldn't matter. In theory, neither should cygwin, but it's a lead if you're not using a network server... Right. No network server. I've always seen it under Cygwin, both when I built my own copy, and now that there's a mainstream Cygwin port. And at work, I never see it, running under Solaris 5.7 and I AM using a network server. Charles
Re: random header script?
Ken -- ...and then Ken Weingold said... % ... % One issue. It seems to run the script only once, when I start mutt, so I always RTFArchives, grasshopper :-) % get the same line from the file. Do I not have the correct syntax for % it? This is my header: % % my_hdr X-Message-Flag: `$HOME/bin/random.pl` Wrap it in single quotes, perhaps making it a default send-hook, to ensure that it gets interpreted at call time instead of muttrc-read time. % % % Thanks. HTH HAND % % % -Ken :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29113/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
auto{conf,make,*} probs under freebsd
Hi again, all -- I am able to make my cocktail but not, for some reason, install it. Once I run a make I cannot run another one; I get bash-2.05a$ make install Makefile, line 447: Need an operator Makefile, line 448: Need an operator ... for a lng time before it craps out. Lines 447 and 448 of the Makefile look like @AMDEP_TRUE@@am__include@ @am__quote@$(DEPDIR)/account.Po@am__quote@ @AMDEP_TRUE@@am__include@ @am__quote@$(DEPDIR)/addrbook.Po@am__quote@ and they similarly go on forever. This looks like I need autoconf or automake or some other autothing on the system. Any pointers to the minimal set I need? TIA again HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29114/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: When is encoding updated?
Charles -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 05:27:29AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % % % It's unclear to me when mutt is supposed to ask me to update encoding. ... % First go back and check the archives; this has come up often. % % Didn't understand the answers . . . Fair enough. Since clock sync doesn't seem to be the issue, it's quite possible that my previous brief explanation has nothing to do with the problem anyway. % % The usual cause is a timestamp difference; mutt fires off your editor, ... % % H . . . so the fact that my computer is slow does it? Well, that shouldn't be the case; it's not a matter of how long it takes your computer to run the editing but that the timestamp changes from the time that mutt is handed back the message file by your editor and when that question pops up because mutt has looked at the file again (and seen a timestamp update). % % Are you using disk space on a network server? I recommend checking the % clock on your PC and on the server and making sure they're synchronized. % If you aren't, then we have some more digging to do. % % Nope. Before the Cygwin port came out, I'd built it myself, but had the % same thing happen. It's not exactly a problem, I suppose. Well, it's a pain, and it shouldn't happen. It might even be nice to figure it out so that it doesn't happen to someone else :-) Looks like we're in digging mode, then. Unfortunately I'm not one of the developers and probably don't know how to use the shovels I have available :-) If your mutt was built with debugging enabled (check what you see in `mutt -v`), you could try using -d to turn it on and then see if anything is reported... % % % I'm using the Cygwin port, with ssmpt as my mta. % % ssmtp shouldn't matter. In theory, neither should cygwin, but it's a % lead if you're not using a network server... % % % Right. No network server. I've always seen it under Cygwin, both when % I built my own copy, and now that there's a mainstream Cygwin port. Quite interesting. % % And at work, I never see it, running under Solaris 5.7 and I AM using a % network server. Sounds like your clocks are in sync, which is a Good Thing. % % % Charles % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29115/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: When is encoding updated?
Charles -- I find that threading is broken under your messages. I don't know enough to say for certain, but your M-ID: of nnn.xxx@OLD CROW with the embedded space could be doing it. Have you seen this before? TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29118/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: regexps under linux vs freebsd
parv, et al -- ...and then parv said... % % in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], % wrote David T-G thusly... % %fcc-save-hook (s(ue|)shaw)=D.oaks/%_%O ... %Error in /home/davidtg/.mutt/muttrc, line 395: empty (sub)expression ... % because changing that to (ue|.) (even though that breaks the match) % runs with no errors. % % to convey the same meaning, doesn't the following work in /mutt/ ... % % fcc-save-hook '(s(ue)?shaw)' =blah Hmmm... I imagine it does. Fortunately it doesn't cause the same error. I'll have to try it and see if it fails later but, yes, that seems a good workaround (even if I find the other format easier to vparse). % % ...i have no clue as to why your regex causes error on freebsd. % some regex library/function perhaps? Maybe so. Any developers have ay ideas? % % as a side point, egrep perl produce expected output on freebsd % 4.6-release w/ the original regex. Makes sense; it's a fine expression. % % % - parv Thanks HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29119/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: auto{conf,make,*} probs under freebsd
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:33:01PM -0500 I heard the voice of David T-G, and lo! it spake thus: Hi again, all -- I am able to make my cocktail but not, for some reason, install it. Once I run a make I cannot run another one; I get bash-2.05a$ make install Makefile, line 447: Need an operator Makefile, line 448: Need an operator ... I would guess it's because those statements are GNUmake type statements, not Bmake type. Use 'gmake', not 'make'. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet
Re: auto{conf,make,*} probs under freebsd
Matthew, et al -- ...and then Matthew D. Fuller said... % % On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 10:33:01PM -0500 I heard the voice of % David T-G, and lo! it spake thus: % Hi again, all -- ... % %bash-2.05a$ make install %Makefile, line 447: Need an operator %Makefile, line 448: Need an operator %... % % I would guess it's because those statements are GNUmake type statements, % not Bmake type. Use 'gmake', not 'make'. Hmmm... That's even worse. When using make it will at least build the program, but when using gmake, after ./configure and my READY message I see ... creating po/POTFILES creating po/Makefile READY TO MAKE... cd . aclocal -I m4 cd . automake --foreign --include-deps Makefile ./gen_defs ./OPS ./OPS.PGP keymap_defs.h cd . \ CONFIG_FILES=Makefile CONFIG_HEADERS= /bin/sh ./config.status creating Makefile Makefile:447: *** missing separator. Stop. Makefile:447: *** missing separator. Stop. Makefile:447: *** missing separator. Stop. so this seems a step back instead of forward :-( Thanks, though, HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29121/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
