Re: search-next annoyance
Roman Neuhauser wrote: macro pager n search-next\n ISTR there was a reason why i didn't just do this in the first place, but i can't remember what it was right now. will try. hm, yes, here's the reason: the macro as suggested scrolls down one line with my current mappings, Your binding for \n interferes with the macro? What if you replace \n with enter? macro pager n search-nextenter Seems to work correctly (for me, at least). -- Cedric
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Note that my only spool mailbox is an IMAP mailbox. But I need a locking strategy for the postpone and archive mailboxes (under NFS). As fcntl is not reliable here, I think I'll disable it and use dotlocking only. Perhaps try maildir mailboxes for the mailboxes on NFS, that should help prevent problems with locking. David -- Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Re: search-next annoyance
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:30:25 +0200 From: Cedric Duval [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mutt-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: search-next annoyance Roman Neuhauser wrote: macro pager n search-next\n ISTR there was a reason why i didn't just do this in the first place, but i can't remember what it was right now. will try. hm, yes, here's the reason: the macro as suggested scrolls down one line with my current mappings, Your binding for \n interferes with the macro? What if you replace \n with enter? macro pager n search-nextenter Seems to work correctly (for me, at least). this line is from the pager halp: Returnnext-line scroll down one line and i'm not going to give it up :) -- FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 9:14AM up 5 days, 19:33, 6 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.04, 0.01
Mutt hangs sending mail
Hi, I'm using mutt 1.4 with imap over ssl. I'm connected via T-DSL. If I want to write a mail vi editor window opens then I write the text. But If I hit :wq to save the text my xterm/mutt hangs. The only way to get out is to kill the session. Is this a known problem. How to solve ? Regards Michael
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 16:49:09 +1000, David Clarke wrote: Perhaps try maildir mailboxes for the mailboxes on NFS, that should help prevent problems with locking. I prefer to keep the mbox format for these mailboxes, because this makes easier for other operations (like grepping or copying them). They are not incoming mailboxes, so I think that locking isn't really important, just a precaution. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: non-mime gpg/pgp...
Bruno, Isaac, et al -- ...and then Bruno Lustosa said... % % Yes, figured out what you said. Outlook just won't interpret the % content-disposition: inline and think it's an attachment. Yep. % % Just applied the patch, set pgp_outlook_compat to ask-yes and % pgp_create_traditional to ask-yes, because if create_traditional isn't % set, outlook_compat won't work. So, if mailing someone using outlook, I % just answer yes twice and the message will go as text/plain. Whoa, there... You may be using an old patch. Dale Woolridge's patch, which is what eventually got rolled into the 1.5 source tree, simply changes how pgp_create_traditional works; there's no need for a compat flag any more. Furthermore, Shane quite supporting his patch once Dale's matured. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29783/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
faking the date
Hi, all -- I'd like to be able to set the date just like I do any other header for some particular emails that I send. I'm not worried about all of their received headers; I just want to have these fill-in-the-gaps messages sort in the right order when sorted by date. Currently I have to set an X-Date: header and then edit the arrived mail (yes, these are to me, sort of; long story) and remove the real Date: header and replace it. Can the Date: header be changed, perhaps by a sendmail wrapper, or is it not mutt that sets it? TIA HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29784/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save attachments and permissions
Doug -- ...and then Doug Wright said... % % I log into a remote machine to check my mail. If I get an attachment that % will only open on a windows machine I need to get that file to my desktop. % Now I am saving the attachment and typing the full path to a folder that is % accessible from a web server ie /home/doug/public_html/attachments/ I then I don't have exactly the same conditions, but certainly similar enough. % have to go to that folder before I can get it and chmod the permissions so % apache will let go of it. is there a way to set a default save attachment % folder and have the permissions set to 644 in one fail swoop? thanks Nope. You've seen the discussion of why that's so and why that's a Good Thing (tm), so I won't go on. I will, however, once again attach the little mpack/munpack wrapper that I wrote, which I call wmunpack, which takes an optional flag to determine the drop point for attachments and then dumps 'em there. Enjoy (and check the archives next time ;-) % % Doug HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! #!/bin/sh # quickie to munpack from email to web dir WWW=$HOME/www/wmunpack # where's the landing zone? DIR=tmp # default dir case $1 in# called as 'wmunpack -d'? -p ) DIR=pix ;; -d ) DIR=doc ;; * ) DIR=tmp ;; esac umask 022 # make it readable [ -d $WWW/$DIR ] || mkdir -p $WWW/$DIR # pave the way cd $WWW/$DIR# go there munpack # pipeline the input (message) msg29785/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt + pgp + many repicients
Gregor -- Please don't just reply to any random message to start a new thread on the mailing list. This note really has nothing to do with mutt and MH mailboxes. ...and then Gregor Zattler said... % % Hi, % % i often write E-Mails to a bunch of people (say n persons). For % every email address there is a pgp-hook. But mutt continues bothering % me n times with questions % Use keyID = 0x12345678 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? ([yes]/no): % I hit return and it shows me all UIDs belonging to this key, even % if there is only one. I have to hit return. % % Does anybody how to configure mutt (v. 1.4) not to ask these % questions? There's a patch by Dale Woolridge which enhances the pgp-hook functionality and helps a lot with this problem. You can pick it up from the archives, from his page, or from my cocktail page at http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/ at your convenience. % % % Ciao, Gregor % -- % The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. % -- William Gibson HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29786/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mailboxes w/ human readable file sizes
Jens -- ...and then Jens Porup said... % % %... %?M?#%03M(%3c)? ... % % % ummwhat does all gobbledegook up there mean? I'd say it looked like Heh :-) As Rocco said, it's explained in the manual. % Perl, except for I know Perl, and that isn't. (I am not conversant in % the source code for mutt, I'm just a mutt user.) Let's break it apart. ... # the leading-up-to-this part of $index_fmt %?# a conditional flag: decide what to print ... M # ... based on %M (the number of msgs if collapsed) ? # if this is a collapsed tree, then #%03M # print and 3-digit count of messages and # else (%3c) # print ( and 3-digit char-based size of message and ) ? # end the conditional ... # the after-this remaining part of $index_fmt So I was, with some obfuscation, pointing to the %3c part, because you may recall that we were discussing that the browser doesn't show K or M but the index does. % % I am mostly concerned about knowing how much disk usage I am using up % for my mailboxes on the mail server, and this is much more easily % learned by a quick glance at human readable format sizes in K and M, % rather than raw data in bytes. You can probably get a better picture of that from the command line than within mutt. mutt isn't a file manager. % % From the three responses to this question I've seen so far, two say % it's possible with lots of gobbledegook, and one says it isn't possible % and that I can fix it with a source code modification. In either event, % could someone point me in the direction of a resource to learn how to % do either? When you finally do find it, please let us know. I'd be quite interested in such gobbledegook for the browser; it sounds like a nifty feature. % % Regards, % % Jens HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29787/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Using Mutt with MH mailboxes question
Michael -- ...and then Michael Herman said... % % I have a question about using Mutt with the MH format. ... % Is the best thing to do is add them as mailboxes in .muttrc? Is there I don't know how mutt likes subdirectories in mail folders, but that doesn't sound like your question so I'll just keep out of that. % an easy way to keep them up to date? Any tips/suggestions would be If you want mutt to tell you when new mail arrives in those mailboxes, then you'll have to add them to your mailboxes line(s) in your muttrc. There have been lots of one-line find and echo scripts to generate mailboxes listings for your muttrc; check the archives. Note that when you create a new mailbox after starting mutt you won't see updates to that mailbox until you re-source your muttrc to regenerate the listing; if you frequently create new mailboxes, you might put the relevant code in a small muttrc so that you can do something like the imaginary $ cat .mutt/muttrc.mailboxes find blah blah blah $ grep muttrc.mailboxes .mutt/muttrc source $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.mailboxes macro generic ,m 'source $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.mailboxes ' mailboxes so that whenever you create a new mailbox you can simply hit ',m' in mutt and your list will be updated. % welcome. Buy low; sell high. Don't run with scissors. % % % Thanks. % % -- % Michael Herman HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29788/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt hangs sending mail
Michael -- ...and then Michael Seiwert said... % % Hi, Hello! % % I'm using mutt 1.4 with imap over ssl. I'm connected via T-DSL. If I What on earth is T-DSL? I thought I knew all of them... % want to write a mail vi editor window opens then I write the text. Note that when you read mail via imap your new mail is handled entirely on your local machine; your remote server is completely out of the loop for this part. % But If I hit :wq to save the text my xterm/mutt hangs. The only way % to get out is to kill the session. How interesting. What OS are you using (I don't trust the X-OS header above because if you can't write then how could you send mail from that machine?)? What flavor of vi (or, heaven forbid, an emacs flavor in vi mode, which is just sick :-) are you using? What file does your vi say that it is editing (perhaps ctrl-G will tell you)? Can you :w the file at all? Can you edit some other file, in the same directory, directly from the command line? Has it ever worked and now it doesn't or has it never worked? % % Is this a known problem. How to solve ? Not to me. Further debugging, of course :-) % % Regards % % Michael HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29789/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt + pgp + many repicients
Hi David, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22. Jul. 2002]: Please don't just reply to any random message to start a new thread on the mailing list. Sorry, i forgot to delete the reply-to: -header. [...] % every email address there is a pgp-hook. But mutt continues bothering % me n times with questions % Use keyID = 0x12345678 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? ([yes]/no): % I hit return and it shows me all UIDs belonging to this key, even % if there is only one. I have to hit return. [...] There's a patch by Dale Woolridge which enhances the pgp-hook functionality and helps a lot with this problem. You can pick it up from the archives, from his page, or from my cocktail page at http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/ Thanx a bundle, i will have a look. Ciao, Gregor -- The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. -- William Gibson
Re: filename completion in the source command
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 07:35:43AM -0500, Patrick wrote: * Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-21-02 07:33]: On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 05:17:58PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: people who hide their name on purpose usually are a pita. they do not deserve too much attention. just being inquisitive. what is pita :-) ~ wtf pita PITA: pain in the ass -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org ha ha - Enlightened:- -- vikram... -- ^^'^^||root||^^^'''^^ // \\ )) //(( \\// \\ // /\\ || \\ || / )) ((\\ -- Thus My Computer Chittered : ~~ A hard-luck actor who appeared in one coloossal disaster after another finally got a break, a broken leg to be exact. Someone pointed out that it's the first time the poor fellow's been in the same cast for more than a week. -- * ~|~ =
Re: mutt + pgp + many repicients
Gregor -- ...and then Gregor Zattler said... % % Hi David, % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [22. Jul. 2002]: % Please don't just reply to any random message to start a new thread on % the mailing list. % % Sorry, i forgot to delete the reply-to: -header. Well, you needed to get rid of the In-Reply-To: and References: headers in order to not screw up the threading for the rest of us; I don't care what you put for the R-T: header :-) % ... % There's a patch by Dale Woolridge which enhances the pgp-hook ... %http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail/ % % Thanx a bundle, i will have a look. HTH % % % Ciao, Gregor % -- % The future is here. It's just not widely distributed yet. % -- William Gibson HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29792/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt hangs sending mail
Michael -- ...and then Michael Seiwert said... % % *On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:16:34AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Michael Seiwert said... % % % % Hi, % % Hello! % % Hello! Hi :-) % ... % What on earth is T-DSL? I thought I knew all of them... % % T-DSL is nothing new, its only the german version of adsl. The T % stands for Deutsche Telekom. :-) A... Gotcha :-) % ... % % But If I hit :wq to save the text my xterm/mutt hangs. The only % way % % to get out is to kill the session. % % How interesting. What OS are you using (I don't trust the X-OS ... % has it % never worked? % % I'm using SuSE 8.0, with vim-6.0-155, mutt-1.4i-1, postfix-1.1.4-41. % I'm sending mail through SMTP-Auth. using vim in native mode (no OK; important parts look like SuSE 8 and vim 6. You must be using the SuSE version of mutt, since mutt-1.4i-1 is not a mutt version number (just mutt-1.4i). postfix and SMTP-Auth don't matter at this point; you're not yet sending (well, do you have a macro that automatically sends after you edit, or do you end up at the compose menu to press 'y' when your editor exits?). % vi mode in emacs). That's good :-) % If I hit ctrl-g mutt tells me /tmp/mutt-devel-16169-44. Is your box called devel? I hope so :-) % No sometimes it works and sometimes not. My assumption is that it Interesting. Those are the worst to try to debug :-) % happens if I write long text. If I'm fast then it works. Maybe there % is a timeout ??? There shouldn't be any timeout; I've been known to leave a letter for two days and then finish it up. % ... % Further debugging, of course :-) % % Ok, lets debug. Actually, it sounds like you should strace the vim process to see what it does and then take this to the vim list for help; I don't mean to casually point fingers, but this still just doesn't sound like a mutt problem. [You said that you have to kill vim to get it to quit and go back to mutt, right?] % % Regards Thank you % % Michael HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29793/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt hangs sending mail
*On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:16:34AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Michael -- ...and then Michael Seiwert said... % % Hi, Hello! Hello! % % I'm using mutt 1.4 with imap over ssl. I'm connected via T-DSL. If I What on earth is T-DSL? I thought I knew all of them... T-DSL is nothing new, its only the german version of adsl. The T stands for Deutsche Telekom. :-) % want to write a mail vi editor window opens then I write the text. Note that when you read mail via imap your new mail is handled entirely on your local machine; your remote server is completely out of the loop for this part. % But If I hit :wq to save the text my xterm/mutt hangs. The only way % to get out is to kill the session. How interesting. What OS are you using (I don't trust the X-OS header above because if you can't write then how could you send mail from that machine?)? What flavor of vi (or, heaven forbid, an emacs flavor in vi mode, which is just sick :-) are you using? What file does your vi say that it is editing (perhaps ctrl-G will tell you)? Can you :w the file at all? Can you edit some other file, in the same directory, directly from the command line? Has it ever worked and now it doesn't or has it never worked? I'm using SuSE 8.0, with vim-6.0-155, mutt-1.4i-1, postfix-1.1.4-41. I'm sending mail through SMTP-Auth. using vim in native mode (no vi mode in emacs). If I hit ctrl-g mutt tells me /tmp/mutt-devel-16169-44. No sometimes it works and sometimes not. My assumption is that it happens if I write long text. If I'm fast then it works. Maybe there is a timeout ??? % Is this a known problem. How to solve ? Not to me. Further debugging, of course :-) Ok, lets debug. % % Regards % % Michael Regards Thank you Michael
Re: faking the date
* David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-22]: I'd like to be able to set the date just like I do any other header for some particular emails that I send. .. Can the Date: header be changed, perhaps by a sendmail wrapper, or is it not mutt that sets it? i think you can tell your MTA to accept all headers as they are. whether this includes the date: header - dunno. never tried it. i'd ask this on comp.mail.misc, though. Sven
Re: kebab in pita
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-22 12:08]: Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-21-02 07:33]: what is pita :-) ~ wtf pita PITA: pain in the ass Pita is also the bread that *should* be used in kebabs. ;-) it's better when used with the kebab *inside*, of course. and people wonder why eating this is so hard... wait - this *is* the doener-kebab list, is it? Sven
Re: filename completion in the source command
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-21-02 07:33]: what is pita :-) ~ wtf pita PITA: pain in the ass Pita is also the bread that *should* be used in kebabs. ;-) - -- Jussi Ekholm -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://erppimaa.ihku.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9O/U+AtEARxQQCB4RAr37AJ4mvFgKgc80aX+5qkq34oOCoConfQCdH0cK ytuYM9WgdtB4jo1xoTUIxVs= =1fEb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kebab in pita
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 02:12:24PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: it's better when used with the kebab *inside*, of course. :) and people wonder why eating this is so hard... with all the kebab falling off the bread and stuff wait - this *is* the doener-kebab list, is it? doener-kebab-aeters list. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 So unleash your nmap-from-hell and beware, you may tickle an obscure bug in an ancient box hand-built by Seymour Cray himself, the only one of its kind ever made, whose sole user pays the salaries of everyone you ever met in the entire time you worked at the company, with money he makes with an investment strategy hand-coded in assembler for this special machine, by an analytic wizard who has since died.
Re: faking the date
Hi, * David T-G [02-07-22 15:30:39 +0200] wrote: ...and then Sven Guckes said... % * David Thorburn-Gundlach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-22]: % i think you can tell your MTA to accept all headers as they are. % whether this includes the date: header - dunno. never tried it. Any ideas whether mutt writes the Date: header at all, though? I don't even know that much. ,- | pdmef@klaus:~$ grep Date ~/tmp/builds/mutt/* | ~/tmp/builds/mutt/sendlib.c: snprintf (s, len, Date: %s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d |%+03d%02dn, `- You could have found out by setting $sendmail to something like: /usr/bin/tee /tmp/foobar. Your wrapper just needs to grep out the original Date: and insert a new one (you could also do it by piping through 'formail -i'). bye, Rocco
Re: reply to from address not to that in reply-to
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 04:48:09PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: | On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 04:07:52PM CEST, Sven Guckes wrote: | hove can I reply to an address that is in From: and not to | address that is in Reply-To:? I know why I want to write to | From: not Reply-To:. | 'subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and want to mail to author of a | post and not to list? | Thank you for answer. I found another nice option: | | ignore_list_reply_to Bingo. (I assumed that's why you wanted to reply to From: and not Reply-To:, some mailing lists are broken like that) -D -- If you hold to [Jesus'] teaching, you are really [Jesus'] disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. John 8:31-32 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29800/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:39:52AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: | On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 16:49:09 +1000, David Clarke wrote: | Perhaps try maildir mailboxes for the mailboxes on NFS, that should help | prevent problems with locking. | | I prefer to keep the mbox format for these mailboxes, because this | makes easier for other operations (like grepping or copying them). grep -r cp -r How does maildir inhibit those operations? I actually find maildir better for grepping because grep tells me which file (message) the match was found in. Then I can use mutt or vi to view the message directly. (I told exim to include the mbox From_ line at the beginning of each message, so in effect I have lots of mbox folders containing one message each in the maildir folder :-)) In addition, it is easy to limit your grep to just new messages or old messages as well by choosing to grep through only the 'new' or 'cur' subdirectory. -D -- Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3:5-6 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29801/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 08:58:42 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:39:52AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: | I prefer to keep the mbox format for these mailboxes, because this | makes easier for other operations (like grepping or copying them). grep -r cp -r How does maildir inhibit those operations? I haven't said that they were inhibited, I have said that using the mbox format makes things easier. Sometimes, I need an interactive cp. And how can cp -r (or scp -r) remove files from the destination mailbox? Indeed, I sometimes delete messages from mailboxes. I actually find maildir better for grepping because grep tells me which file (message) the match was found in. This is true, but in general, I'm interested in several messages (e.g. a thread). When I've found the mailbox containing the files I was searching for, I can use Mutt and the limit function. Then I can use mutt or vi to view the message directly. (I told exim to include the mbox From_ line at the beginning of each message, so in effect I have lots of mbox folders containing one message each in the maildir folder :-)) In addition, it is easy to limit your grep to just new messages or old messages as well by choosing to grep through only the 'new' or 'cur' subdirectory. In my case, all the messages are read. -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: faking the date
Rocco, et al -- ...and then Rocco Rutte said... % % Hi, Hi! % % * David T-G [02-07-22 15:30:39 +0200] wrote: ... % Any ideas whether mutt writes the Date: header at all, % though? I don't even know that much. % % ,- % | pdmef@klaus:~$ grep Date ~/tmp/builds/mutt/* % | ~/tmp/builds/mutt/sendlib.c: snprintf (s, len, Date: %s, %d %s %d %02d:%02d:%02d %+03d%02dn, % `- % % You could have found out by setting $sendmail to something % like: /usr/bin/tee /tmp/foobar. Your wrapper just needs Oh, yeah. Good point :-) % to grep out the original Date: and insert a new one (you % could also do it by piping through 'formail -i'). Since I'll want to write the date myself, I'll have my wrapper get rid of the Date: (or rename to X-Actual-Date: or such) and rename the X-Date: headers if the latter exists. % %bye, Rocco Thanks HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29803/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: from, realname, my_hdr From:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 09:54:14AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 08:21:27AM -0400, Daniel J Peng wrote: | On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:08:47PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 09:37:03PM -0400, Daniel J Peng wrote: | | I just installed Debian woody with Mutt 1.3.28i, and I've discovered a | | puzzling behavior that wasn't in the Mutt that came with Mandrake 8.0 | | nor any other Mutt I've ever used. I made a simple muttrc with just | | | | set from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | set realname=Daniel J. Peng | | | | Now I expected that when I started writing an email in Mutt, Mutt | | would construct a default From header consisting of my email and | | realname, but instead the From header is completely blank. | | What happens if you add | set use_from | to it? | | Hrm.. That works. Thanks!! When was this option added? I haven't | seen it in the ChangeLog.. It was there in 1.2.5i (back when I compiled it on cygwin because the cygwin folks didn't have a package for it). I didn't know about mutt before then. Maybe the mandrake people turned it on by default? I actually just ran into this problem when I upgraded my sid Debian box. Suddenly all my emails were being composed with an invalid 'from:' address, and this was the problem. I think that the Debian folks may have changed the option somehwere along the line in the global Muttrc (/etc/Muttrc). I'm lead to believe this because upgrades of mutt via apt-get dist-upgrade didn't break this until i decided to have apt-get replace my existing config file. snip -- Sean Kelleher
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
Vincent -- ...and then Vincent Lefevre said... % % On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:00:09 -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Vincent Lefevre said... % % % % It seems that to force the dotlock locking strategy, one needs to use % % the --with-homespool option. But then, mutt -v says: % % That doesn't make sense; I've had dotlocking with my mail spool under % /var before. In fact, the whole reason for having a separate dotlock % program with its own priv permissions is specifically because of mail % spools under /var instead of $HOME. % % I wasn't talking of a separate dotlock program. I just wanted Mutt % to use the dotlock mechanism (preferably the internal one). You'd *prefer* the internal? OK. % % % MAILPATH=mailbox % % % % Here, mailbox doesn't correspond to anything. So, is it a problem? % % What if you compile with HOMESPOOL turned off? % % With --with-homespool: % +USE_DOTLOCK % MAILPATH=mailbox % % Without --with-homespool: % -USE_DOTLOCK % MAILPATH= Hmmm... I see what you mean; there's not --use-dotlock switch. Well, you could --enable-external-dotlock to force it, even though you'd then have the external program. [Why don't you like that, though?] Come to think of it, I think dotlocking is the default, so if you specifically disable fcntl (and perhaps flock) then you'll get that. When you install, check the perms on the binary; if you don't have the external program, then you'll probably have an sgid mutt, which can then do dotlocking in /var -- and which, with or without the perms, can lock in your home dir. % % % Note that my only spool mailbox is an IMAP mailbox. But I need a locking % % strategy for the postpone and archive mailboxes (under NFS). As fcntl is % % not reliable here, I think I'll disable it and use dotlocking only. % % Sounds good. % % Well, the lock manager has just been cleaned here, so fcntl is now OK % (for the moment). That's good :-) HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29805/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
Vincent -- ...and then Vincent Lefevre said... % % It seems that to force the dotlock locking strategy, one needs to use % the --with-homespool option. But then, mutt -v says: That doesn't make sense; I've had dotlocking with my mail spool under /var before. In fact, the whole reason for having a separate dotlock program with its own priv permissions is specifically because of mail spools under /var instead of $HOME. % % MAILPATH=mailbox % % Here, mailbox doesn't correspond to anything. So, is it a problem? What if you compile with HOMESPOOL turned off? % % Note that my only spool mailbox is an IMAP mailbox. But I need a locking % strategy for the postpone and archive mailboxes (under NFS). As fcntl is % not reliable here, I think I'll disable it and use dotlocking only. Sounds good. % % -- % Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% % validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International % des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. % Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg29806/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
filtering mailbox
Hello, I have a mailbox with ~1 mails, most of them are duplicated. How can I delete the duplicities? Manualy it can be done by sorting mails by date, go from top and most every second mail delete. Can it be done in batch? Are developers plannig some embed scripting language? E.g. perl in the way as is in VIM? Thanks -- Hans Ginzel
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:25:08 -0500, David T-G wrote: Hmmm... I see what you mean; there's not --use-dotlock switch. Well, you could --enable-external-dotlock to force it, even though you'd then have the external program. [Why don't you like that, though?] An additional --use-dotlock switch would be better. Anyway, I've just tried with --enable-external-dotlock and it has no effect: -USE_DOTLOCK. Come to think of it, I think dotlocking is the default, so if you specifically disable fcntl (and perhaps flock) then you'll get that. Here, dotlocking is disabled by default. When you install, check the perms on the binary; if you don't have the external program, then you'll probably have an sgid mutt, which can then do dotlocking in /var -- and which, with or without the perms, can lock in your home dir. I only need to lock things in my home dir (the spool mailbox in /var/... no longer exists). -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
Re: filtering mailbox
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Hans Ginzel wrote: Hello, I have a mailbox with ~1 mails, most of them are duplicated. How can I delete the duplicities? Manualy it can be done by sorting mails by date, go from top and most every second mail delete. Can it be done in batch? even better - D~= and you're done :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29809/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt hangs sending mail
* Michael Seiwert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-22 07:22]: I'm using mutt 1.4 with imap over ssl. I'm connected via T-DSL. If I want to write a mail vi editor window opens then I write the text. But If I hit :wq to save the text my xterm/mutt hangs. The only way to get out is to kill the session. Is this a known problem. How to solve ? another window opens? wild guess: you're using gvim? then this might help: set editor=gvim -f anyway - more info, please! vim version? set ?editor? Sven
how to fcc my gpg/pgp-mails UNencrypted?
Hi, eh, well I think the subject says it all: Is there a way to make mutt save my GPG-Mails unencrypted to disk? I thought I had seen something like that in the mailing list, but now I can't find it anymore. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Andy. -- http://peru.spiegl.de Our project http://radiomaranon.org.pe Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v No matter how long or how hard you shop for an item, after you've bought it, it will be on sale somewhere cheaper.
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 10:00:09 -0500, David T-G wrote: Vincent -- ...and then Vincent Lefevre said... % % It seems that to force the dotlock locking strategy, one needs to use % the --with-homespool option. But then, mutt -v says: That doesn't make sense; I've had dotlocking with my mail spool under /var before. In fact, the whole reason for having a separate dotlock program with its own priv permissions is specifically because of mail spools under /var instead of $HOME. I wasn't talking of a separate dotlock program. I just wanted Mutt to use the dotlock mechanism (preferably the internal one). % MAILPATH=mailbox % % Here, mailbox doesn't correspond to anything. So, is it a problem? What if you compile with HOMESPOOL turned off? With --with-homespool: +USE_DOTLOCK MAILPATH=mailbox Without --with-homespool: -USE_DOTLOCK MAILPATH= % Note that my only spool mailbox is an IMAP mailbox. But I need a locking % strategy for the postpone and archive mailboxes (under NFS). As fcntl is % not reliable here, I think I'll disable it and use dotlocking only. Sounds good. Well, the lock manager has just been cleaned here, so fcntl is now OK (for the moment). -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA
View RTFs inline
Hi everyone! I've been lurking for a while, this is my first post. I did a search on the archives but couldn't find anything related to this. I've just recently configured my mailcap and muttrc to view word documents inline with antiword and it works great! But I was wondering if there was a similiar program to convert rtf documents to ascii as it appears antiword doesn't view rtfs :-(. TIA! -- -- Sam PetersonProgrammer I [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hart Interdisciplinary Programs 530-752-9332University of California, Davis --
Re: how to fcc my gpg/pgp-mails UNencrypted?
Hi Andy, can't help you with your question, however, I always encrypt messages with the recipient's key and with my own key. This way, the encrypted messages is stored in my fcc folder, but I'm still able to read it, because it's encrypted with my own key. Ciao, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ msg29814/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: View RTFs inline
Hi Sam, I have the following in my mailcap file for RTFs: application/rtf; rtf2htm %s | lynx -dump -force_html -stdin; copiousoutput Works like a charm. Ciao, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ msg29815/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to fcc my gpg/pgp-mails UNencrypted?
Hi, * Andy Spiegl [02-07-22 18:59:13 +0200] wrote: Is there a way to make mutt save my GPG-Mails unencrypted to disk? I thought I had seen something like that in the mailing list, but now I can't find it anymore. Sounds like you're looking for ``set fcc_clear''. bye, Rocco
Re: View RTFs inline
Thanks Viktor! I was having trouble finding an rtf converter. Was googling for rtf2html, but searching for rtf2htm called it up. I guess it's officially called GNU unrtf now and is available here for those who need it: http://www.gnu.org/directory/Text_creation_and_manipulation/Documentation_tools/GNUunRTF.html That's one long URL, hope it doesn't wrap in people's email clients. Thanks again, this list rocks! ---Viktor Rosenfeld said on Monday, Jul 22 2002: Hi Sam, I have the following in my mailcap file for RTFs: application/rtf; rtf2htm %s | lynx -dump -force_html -stdin; copiousoutput Works like a charm. Ciao, Viktor -- Viktor Rosenfeld WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/ -- -- Sam PetersonProgrammer I [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hart Interdisciplinary Programs 530-752-9332University of California, Davis --
Re: View RTFs inline - GNU unrtf
* Sam tofu Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-22 20:17]: I was having trouble finding an rtf converter. Was googling for rtf2html, but searching for rtf2htm called it up. do you mind telling us where you found it? I guess it's officially called GNU unrtf now and is available here for those who need it: http://www.gnu.org/directory/ Text_creation_and_manipulation/ Documentation_tools/GNUunRTF.html That's one long URL, hope it doesn't wrap in people's email clients. it wraps just fine... ;-) well, this is just the official place on gnu.org. the original site is, ah.. heck, let me summarize: name:unrtf purpose: convert RTF to HTML (text/vt100/LaTeX/PostScript/WPML) version: 0.18.1 [2001-] download:ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/unrtf/unrtf-0.18.1.tar.gz bug-reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maintainer: Zach(ary) T. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage:http://www.geocities.com/tuorfa/unrtf.html maillist:none i suppose you'd use it like this: application/rtf; unrtf%s | lynx -dump -force_html -stdin; copiousoutput application/rtf; unrtf --text %s; copiousoutput unfortunately, my mail filter kills all RTF attachments - ha! *grin* Sven [who fings that unrtf segfaults on Solaris]
Re: Locking strategies and MAILPATH
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 04:21:24PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: | On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 08:58:42 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:39:52AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: | | I prefer to keep the mbox format for these mailboxes, because this | | makes easier for other operations (like grepping or copying them). | | grep -r | cp -r | | How does maildir inhibit those operations? | | I haven't said that they were inhibited, I have said that using the | mbox format makes things easier. Sometimes, I need an interactive cp. Interactive cp? Is that like using debugfs to copy inodes manually? (yes, that's joke, but I really don't know what can be interactive about cp) | And how can cp -r (or scp -r) remove files from the destination | mailbox? *Those* commands don't, the 'rm' command does :-). | Indeed, I sometimes delete messages from mailboxes. Is this always one-sided? Or can you received/delete messages from either side and then want to sync them? If it is the former you can fairly easily script it with varying amounts of efficiency. For example, just 'rm -rf' the folder on the destination and 'scp -r' to update it. In the latter case you need a program that understands mail folders (regardless of whether you use mbox or maildir) to properly sync the two folders. Perhaps a better solution is to use imap and have just one folder store. (*perhaps*) | I actually find maildir better for grepping because grep tells me | which file (message) the match was found in. | | This is true, but in general, I'm interested in several messages | (e.g. a thread). When I've found the mailbox containing the files | I was searching for, I can use Mutt and the limit function. Can the limit function operate on message bodies? From what I've seen it seems to operate on the subject only (or certain other headers and properties if you use the right tilde magic). HTH, -D -- A)bort, R)etry, D)o it right this time http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29819/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt and mail list issue
On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 11:10:42AM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: | * Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:43:23PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: | | | personally, i find that disallowing attachments on | | mailing lists is fine. | | Don't forget that PGP/MIME signatures are attachments. | It is a good thing to allow signed mail. | | Generally yes but not on all mailing lists. To take your | mail as an example, I don't see any advantage; As long as you don't trust my key, then there is limited advantage. | the only thing I know for sure (with a sucessfully verified | signature) is that someone with your name really signed a mail with | a key containing your user id. Which is useful because you at least know that I'm not being impersonated. If, at some point, you trust my key then you'll know a lot more about the messages (both new and old ones, as long as the same key was used). -D -- If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. But when he asks he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. James 1:5-6 http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/ msg29820/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: filename completion in the source command
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 01:00:31PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * V K [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-21 06:54]: Funny, even just about every GNU app supports readline() and cmdline editing. I have come to think of it as state of the art, or standard. not every mutt gets linked to the GNU readline. I must be missing something, but I didn't think _any_ mutt was using the GNU Readline Library? Regards, Doug
