Re: mutt sucks...

2002-10-19 Thread -dsr-

Jacek Wojaczynski wrote:
 4. Folders - it really sucks! I even cannot see how many read/unread
 messages there are in a particular folder if I don't enter it...

Sounds like you haven't listed your mailboxes in .muttrc:

mailboxes !
mailboxes =mutt =procmail-user =linux-kernel =vim-user
mailboxes =list1

 5. Using up/down arrows I scroll through messages (index view).
 Why it skips whole page? I'd like it to work same as in slrn.

Read the manual, assign a new keybinding.

 6. What's the default shortcut for Mark all tagged messages as
 read?

The manual is here: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/

You are looking for tag and patterns.

 7. C - copies messages to a different folder. What key moves them?

saving them does that.

 8. Can I import my Address Book from The Bat!?

Probably. Can the Bat export them in a useful format?

 9. Au! There is no address book built in. What would you suggest?
 Abook or sth else?

There is, you didn't read the manual.

 10. I still do not understand this Tab completion thing - it seems
 that sometimes it simply DOES NOT work as expected.

Does it behave the way the manual expects it to behave? If not, file a
bug.

 11. What's the newest version of mutt? Is there a lot of problems
 using beta versions? (when I used TB! it was almost always the
 newest beta).

These are at the top of the www.mutt.org page. In general, don't use
a development release unless you need a feature in it or are doing
development work.

 12. How do I create multiple identities? Different from, attribute
 line and language settings for different mailing lists.
 Possible? How? Folder-hooks or only send-hooks?

Have you looked at the sample .muttrc's provided at
http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config ?

 13. How can I move old mail to a different folders? Automatically of
 course. For example for this list? How?

Depends. Do you want shiny clean folders with nothing in them except
fresh email that you've never seen? Do you want folders with relatively
recent email, so that anything over n days/weeks/months old is archived?
Think about folder-hooks, and read those sample .muttrc files.

 14. Can I send within mutt mail to all users on my system?

Sure. If you have an alias established by your MTA or in mutt, this
becomes easier.

 vim related problems:

Really ought to go to the vim lists. For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED],  [EMAIL PROTECTED], archive at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim)

 15. It's very very tiring manually stripping those signatures and
 manually adding   signs when reformatting a paragraph.
 In TB! it was automatic...

If you need to reformat a paragraph, use fmt or par, or learn regexps.

 16. I have ispell installed. It works fine. I can switch between
 english and polish dictionaries. Is it possible to automatically set
 proper dictionary? I mean: English for english language mailing
 lists and polish for polish language lists?

I don't use spellcheckers; however, I imagine that you would read the
ispell docs to find out how to switch dictionaries according to a
command line or environment variable, and set that in a folder-hook.

 17. When spellchecker underlines a word - can I add it to the user
 dictionary? How? I'm having only console - so no mouse right click.

ispell documentation almost certainly has this.

 18. Why ispell spells too much? It even tries to spell quoted text
 or header lines. It's stupid. Can I change it?

Yes. It's open source.

-dsr-

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Re: location of signature.

2002-09-04 Thread -dsr-


Bo Peng wrote:
 I am sorry but I could not find this message. Could you tell me its
 subject or date? Is it in mutt-user group?
 
  This discussion (Message-ID 8gcg1a$qte$[EMAIL PROTECTED]) may
  be helpful for you.

It's a message ID. Go search Google Groups for it; you'll get a 12
message thread.

-dsr-

-- 
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Batman: The true crimefighter always carries everything he needs in
 his utility belt, Robin.



Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread -dsr-

Kevin Coyner said:
 
 Since I'm just getting started and haven't invested
 a huge amount of time, effort and config files yet, what
 application chain would you recommend?  At this point
 it won't be hard for me to make major changes since I'm 
 not set in my ways nor have any predispositions.
 
 Right now I'm headed towards:  mutt, sendmail, fetchmail 
 and procmail.  But I'm selecting these for no particular
 reason other than they seem standard and common.
 
 What might be a better setup (with 'better' meaning 
 having more tools yet less complexity!)?

mutt is good -- but on this list, did you expect any disagreement?

sendmail is the most complex MUA. I highly recommend any of the big
three alternatives: qmail, Postfix, and exim. If you use Debian Linux,
exim is your default and extremely easy to setup. No matter what OS you
use, if qmail is your choice, please install it from source and using
the www.lifewithqmail.org guide.

getmail is simpler than fetchmail, but not as powerful.

maildrop has a simpler configuration language than procmail, but is again
not quite as powerful. The basics - duplicate elimination, filtering mail
through SpamAssassin, sorting mail into folders, dropping idiots you never
want to hear from again - can be done in a less arcane way in maildrop.

-dsr-



Re: [Re: NuBe: upgrade question]

2002-06-06 Thread dsr

Thorsten Haude said:
 * -dsr- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-06-06 20:34]:
 maildrop has a simpler configuration language than procmail, but is again
 not quite as powerful.
 Since I am one of the most vocal Supporters of Maildrop, I would be
 interested to hear some examples where Procmail can do more.
 
 (Background: I used Procmail for a few years, then went looking for an
 alternative. I found Maildrop, liked it, but found Mail::Audit much
 more powerful, so I never used Maildrop.)

...whereas I use procmail at work and maildrop at home.

The primary example of procmail's power is the ability to create, call
and distribute modules. 

If it were only a bit more powerful, one could managed named functions
and procedures, which would be nice, but at that point, one might as
well go to Mail::Audit and have all of Perl at your command.

-dsr-




Re: weird color behaviour with aterm rxvt

2002-06-02 Thread dsr

Maximilian Szengel said:
 Hi,
 
  I've just edited my mutt colors to have a white background. (color
  normal black white etc.) I am using aterm and when I call mutt with the
  white background setting it looks awful, not white. Have a look at the
  screenshot [1]. I tried it with rxvt and it looks the same. Am I doing
  something wrong? Maybe it's not mutt's fault, then just ignore this
  post and I am going to find help somewhere else.
 
 1. http://che23.de/mutt_aterm.jpg

You told Mutt to use a white background, but you didn't tell aterm (or
rxvt). 

Invoke your term with -bg white and tell us what happens.

-dsr-



Re: OT: What are RFCs? (Was: Re: Outh...)

2002-04-08 Thread dsr

On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:21:46PM +0200, Martin Karlsson wrote:
 * David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-08 14.06 -0500]:
 [...snip...]
  (This is recommended, not required.) See RFC 2822, section 3.6.4.
 
 Sorry for going OT, but could someone please point me to a site or
 document which explains _what_ an RFC (yeah, request for comment, I
 managed to google that far :-) ) really /is/, and what types of RFCs
 there are and why thera are more than one type of RFC?

http://www.rfc-editor.org/

To answer the other questions backwards:

There is more than one type of RFC because people need more than one type.

The types of RFC are Standards, Informational, and Experimental.
Standards are exactly that: if you want to interoperate with other people
using a particular protocol, this is the official description of how to
do it.

Informational/Experimental are exactly that: if you want to know how
other people are doing things which haven't been standardized yet,
or can't or won't be standardized, or aren't easily standardized, or a
summary of several approaches, this is what you want to read.

Typical labels: STD for standard, BCP for best current practices, FYI for
informational.

Finally, why they are called RFCs:

At a meeting discussing what would become NCP in 1969, a grad student
was assigned to take notes. As he wasn't sure he had written everything
down exactly right, he wrote Request For Comments across the top when
he made copies and distributed them.

-dsr-