Re: How to decode INLINE GPG messages?
On 17-03-06 16:23, Alexander Gattin wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 08:35:59PM -0600, Derek > Martin wrote: > > It's sad to see this question still popping up. > > Inline PGP is a hack that should have died at > > least a decade ago, and more like two decades. > > My friend used to send inline PGP messages until > half a year ago, and I'm sure there are still some > inline PGP users left. > In my experience most inliners I converse with are also keybase users and this is only speculation but I guess they find it convenient to copy-paste clear/encrypted text into their browsers and keybase instead of installing anything locally to manage PGP. The only other inline contact I can think of on top of my head uses some kind of gmail-firefox-pgp-plugin(?) and only accepts inline encryption. The state of things in this regard is a bit... sad and keybase popping up on the scene doesn't seem to speed up the demise of inline PGP messages. Sorry for OT. Regards -- Jonas Hedman PGP: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to decode INLINE GPG messages?
On 17-02-22 12:01, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > I get every day GPG signed and crypted messages, but these are always as > attachment. However, two days ago, I have gotten a message with INLINE > crypting like > > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- > Charset: windows-1252 > Version: GnuPG v2 > > hQIMA4/WG/fTbdX8ARAAw0CwUeDUpr34bVyIdOv+S32F8sMeCogqz0VIeKe+Qaq1 > ,snip> > =XbKy > -END PGP MESSAGE- > > and I can not open it. > I have NEVER used this inline stuff, hence my question: > > How can I read it? > > Thanks I saw that you got a good answer already but I just wanted to add that you can trigger this automatically: From the FAQ: "How to make oldstyle / classic / traditional / inline PGP work? With recent Mutts >= 1.5.7, use the function automatically inside a message-hook, setting this one line in muttrc: message-hook '!(~g|~G) ~b"^-BEGIN\ PGP\ (SIGNED\ )?MESSAGE"' "exec check-traditional-pgp" : Note: This doesn't work so well with inline signatures within MIME digests. ..." https://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Encryption In my experience it is a bit of a hit and miss though. Best regards -- Jonas Hedman PGP: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Delete all threads which are incomplete?
On 16-07-02 14:57:53, Francesco Ariis wrote: > > Ah! my time to shine > > http://www.ariis.it/static/articles/mutt-ml/page.html > > tl;dr: play around with > > macro index d "~l~N(!~(!~x.+))(!~(~F))" > > and see if you like it > -F I just wanted to thank you for sharing this, I found it very useful! Regards -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@nstr.se PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: integrated gpg
On 16-05-15 03:27:20, Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Wim wrote: > > After much screwing around I ran across the solution. I had been > entering "p" in the compose window too early. After composing the > message and hitting "escape" then ":wq" I hit "p" in the next window, > the one where you normally enter "y" to send the message. Lo and behold > the encryption menu appeared. Unfortunately that revealed another > problem. When encrypting a test message, sending it, then going into the > outbox and trying to decrypt it, it throws an error about the passphrase > being invalid. A search turned up nothing applicable. > > I'm at a loss to know where to start trying to troubleshoot this. > Any ideas? > This might be stupid and or too obvious but do you have yourself as a gpg-recipient? For example, I have the following in my .muttrc so that I can always later on read my encrypted sent emails: set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg2 --passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose \ --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to 616BB08C -- -r %r -- %f" If I leave out the "... --encrypt-to 616BB08C ..."-part then, _only_ the recipient(s) on the other end can decrypt the email. Though some argue this is bad practice but I think it depends on your use case. I'm not sure that this is your issue but I'm throwing this out there anyway. Regards. -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@nstr.se PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disable arrow keys for navigation
On 16-04-28 18:41:35, Joel Buckley wrote: > Something like this: > > bind index,pager noop > bind index,pager noop > bind index,pager noop > bind index,pager noop > > Works for me > > -- > Joel Buckley That does exactly what I want! Many thanks and I apologize for not reading the documentation carefully enough and failing to notice noop. -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Disable arrow keys for navigation
Hi mutters This might be slightly weird but I would like to disable navigation (goto next or previous email) by arrow keys (up, down) in the index & pager. The motivation for this is to get into my thick head that I should use hjkl. Can this be achieved somehow? I tried to search in the documentation for a way to override default behaviour _and_ bind a key to do nothing but I couldn't find any "do nothing" function in http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#functions What is the best (or least worst) way of doing this? Any ideas? Regards -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Clash between macro for saving & msg-hook for checking traditional pgp
I have the following macro in my .muttrc macro index hy ":set confirmappend=no delete=yes auto_tag=yes\n=main/stuff\n:set confirmappend=yes delete=ask-yes\n" and I also have message-hook '!(~g|~G) ~b"^-BEGIN\ PGP\ (SIGNED\ )?MESSAGE"' "exec check-traditional-pgp" To deal with old-style inline encrypted emails. When I try to save an inline encrypted email using the above macro something weird happens: It opens vim in "compose mail-mode" and wants to forward the mail I'm trying to save To: irmappend=yes@computername,delete=ask-yes@computername When I exit vim I end up in compose mode editing the cc header to "heck-traditional-pgp>" I have no idea what is going on here but I guess there is some kind of clash between the message hook and the macro. Is there anyway I can get them to work nicely together? Regards -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Need passphrase for unencrypting but not for signing
On 16-01-26 00:20:40, Xu Wang wrote: > Hello all, > > I have set up gpg signing, encrypting, and I also have to decrypt when > someone send an encrypted message to me. However, I find it curious > that in order to decrypt a message I need to put my passphrase in. But > for signing, I do not need to. Is this normal? It is the same > passphrase. I'm not sure which settings I set in order to achive this. I don't have an answer to your question but I'm really curious about this. What does your setup look like and how did you create your keypair? Did you use any special options in the creation process? Typically one would want to be prompted for a passphrase both for decryption and signing. Mutt can be set to remember the gpg passphrase for a certain time. Is it possible that you might have decrypted some email and typed the passphrase and then while mutt remembered the passphrase signed and sent another email? Interesting situation nevertheless. -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Macro for goto next in thread and then go back out to inbox
When reading long threads in mailing lists I often feel it might be convenient to have the following functionality in the pager: Instead of working my way through a thread using or I would like to press some key and it takes me to the next message in the thread like but when I reach the last mail in the thread and press again it takes me back out to the current inbox index. I'm pretty much a noob but I'm wondering if it might be possible to define this as a macro? Any help would be highly appreciated! -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: understanding PGP encrypt to myself
On 15-11-14 17:45:47, Xu Wang wrote: > Hi, > > I am learning more about PGP encryption with mutt, and am following this > guide: > http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttGuide/UseGPG > > There is a part which discusses about "also encrypt the message using > the author's public key". This is very useful because now I can > decrypt the message that I send (in case I want to see what I sent). I > would like to understand more what happens. > > When I encrypt with public key of recipient *and* with my public key, > is this to mean that I send two separate messages, one encrypted with > recipient public key and a separate one with my public key? Or it is > possible to send *one* message that both the recipient and me are > capable of decrypting. I am trying to understand how this magic works. > > Kind regards, > > Xu You just send one message. If you have a Sent-dir then you can decrypt it yourself at a later date, if you don't do this can decrypt it afterwards. It's pretty handy at times. Basically, the encrypted messages gets two recipients and can be decrypted by two private keys, yours and the person you sent the email to. -- Jonas Hedman XMPP:n...@jabber.at PGP Key: 0x5c3989e0616bb08c Fingerprint: 8F72 C5BE AAFA B4BA 8F46 9185 5C39 89E0 616B B08C signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mutt with GPG and S/Mime
On 15-06-30 22:00:27, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: Hi, is it possible to use with one account PGP and S/Mime? I found a how-to for using S/Mime or using mutt with one account with PGP and one account S/Mime. But I want to use my main account with both and would like to choose on a per user basis whether I encrypt via PGP or S/Mime. I know people who use only PGP and others only S/Mime. So: is this possible in mutt? If yes, how - any how-tos you can recommend? Thanks, Niels Hi! I use send-hooks for this for examples send-hook someonewhoperfersinlinecry...@mail.com set pgp_autoinline; set pgp_autoencrypt While I have S/Mime as standard in my default crypto settings. /jonas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Swedish chars in attached gpg-encrypted message fails
On 15-06-20 12:37:06, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: jonas hedman wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Secret =E5=E4=F6 =C5=C4=D6 As the header shows, the =E5 characters are quoted-printable encoding. Mutt is encoding the characters because the PGP/MIME RFC (3156) says all 8-bit characters for pgp/signed message MUST be encoded. (I am guessing you are both signing and encrypting the messages.) Email clients should generally deal with this correctly, and decode the content before displaying it. If for some reason, the recipients are viewing the content outside of a MUA, they may want to use the qprint utility to decode and view the content. 2. Why doesn't this problem show up when encrypting inline style? Inline style has no such mandate. If allow_8bit is set and you are also encrypting the message (which ascii-armors the output), then Mutt allows the 8-bit encoding. -- Kevin J. McCarthy GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C 5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA http://www.8t8.us/configs/gpg-key-transition-statement.txt Thank you so much for your informative reply! I've done some reading and I get the issue better now. I guess I either have to come up with some neat and simple way to for my recipients to decode quoted-printable or just stick with inline style encryption for these people. Thanks again! :) /jonas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Swedish chars in attached gpg-encrypted message fails
On 15-06-21 09:36:53, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.06.2015, jonas hedman wrote: I'm from Sweden and I occasionally communicate with other swedish people using pgp and I've stumbled upon this problem: If I encrypt a message containg any of the swedish letters åÅäÄöÖ using inline format everythings works just fine but when I encrypt it in the standard way, i.e sending the encrypted message as attachment the swedish letters get messed up when the recipient decrypts the message I'm from Norway (åøæ), and it works for me. I think it's a decoding problem on the receiver side. What happens when you send such a mail to yourself? Do you see garbled characters or is everything fine? I think you are right. I guess the msg.asc are meant to be dercypted in a mail client and therefor it fails when its decrypted manually from commandline. If I encrypt and send a email to myself and decrypt it in mutt it works perfectly but if I save the msg.asc and decrypt it manually I get Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable undecoded. So the problem is seems mostly to be on the part of the receiver. I think I have to convince my friends to get decent email clients =) Thanks for your reply! /jonas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Swedish chars in attached gpg-encrypted message fails
Hi, I have a slightly annoying problem. I'm from Sweden and I occasionally communicate with other swedish people using pgp and I've stumbled upon this problem: If I encrypt a message containg any of the swedish letters åÅäÄöÖ using inline format everythings works just fine but when I encrypt it in the standard way, i.e sending the encrypted message as attachment the swedish letters get messed up when the recipient decrypts the message (not in mutt as for as I know). For example if I encrypt the message Secret åäö ÅÄÖ and send it to myself and then decrypt it in mutt it shows exactly; headers stuff then: [-- The following data is PGP/MIME encrypted --] Secret åäö ÅÄÖ [-- End of PGP/MIME encrypted data --] but if I save the actual msg.asc file and decrypt it manually from commandline I get Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Secret =E5=E4=F6 =C5=C4=D6 And this apparently what any recipient gets upon decryption. Any swedish char in terminal shows up just fine on my system (debian) and my locale is LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and I don't have any other problems with Swedish chars as far as I know. But something goes wrong. I basically have two questions, 1. How to fix this? 2. Why doesn't this problem show up when encrypting inline style? I'm sorry if this is stupid, I know very little about charsets and encodings. My cryptopart of .muttrc looks like this: #gpg set pgp_use_gpg_agent = no set pgp_sign_as = 616BB08C set pgp_timeout = 3600 set crypt_autosign = yes set crypt_replyencrypt = yes set pgp_decode_command=gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_verify_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --verify %s %f set pgp_decrypt_command=gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_sign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign \ --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_clearsign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor \ --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_encrypt_only_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --batch --quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt \ --textmode --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to 616BB08C -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose \ --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust %--encrypt-to 616BB08C -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_import_command=gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f set pgp_export_command=gpg--no-verbose --export --armor %r set pgp_verify_key_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --fingerprint --check-sigs %r set pgp_list_pubring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys %r set pgp_list_secring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r set pgp_good_sign=^gpg:Good signature from message-hook '!(~g|~G) ~b^-BEGIN\ PGP\ (SIGNED\ )?MESSAGE' exec check-traditional-pgp Mutt version Mutt 1.5.23 / gpg 1.4.18 @ debian stable. Any help or pointers on how to resolve this would be highly appreciated! With kindly regards Jonas Hedman signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Trouble with decryption of certain emails using GPG + Mutt application/pgp-encrypted is unsupported
A small update on the matter. John was kind enough the send me a encrypted test email from the iphone app and it worked perfectly. I could verify signatures and and decrypt it properly from within mutt automatically without any trouble. With this in mind I just realized that my friend for weird and unknown reasons uses hotmail. Could that have something to do with it? /jonas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Trouble with decryption of certain emails using GPG + Mutt application/pgp-encrypted is unsupported
Hello! I'm having some trouble decrypting emails from a friend who is using some kind of Iphone app for PGP. When I get a encrypted email from this person it usually looks like this: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:06:17 +0100 From: frend friend@... To: me Subject: something [-- Attachment #1 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.1K --] [-- Attachment #2: encrypted.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-encrypted, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 2.5K --] [-- application/pgp-encrypted is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] [-- Attachment #3 --] [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit, Size: 0.1K --] Where, [-- Attachment #1 --] always is a empty plain textfile. [-- Attachment #2: encrypted.asc --] is the encrypted message [-- Attachment #3 --] is either empty or contains non-cryptographic signature plaintext. i.e kindly regards /friend I want mutt to automagically recognize encrypted.asc and do its normal buisniess. I have no problems with signatures, inline encrypted emails or emails with empty bodies with just one attached encrypted.asc but when I get emails formated this way it doesn't work for some reason. I can save encrypted.asc and decrypt it manually from commandline so there seems to be nothing wrong with the encryption. I would really appreciate if someone could help me out and make this work. Here is my config related to gpg: In mutt.rc: source ~/.gpg.rc set pgp_use_gpg_agent = yes set pgp_sign_as = ... set pgp_timeout = 3600 set crypt_autosign = yes set crypt_replyencrypt = yes set pgp_decode_command=gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_verify_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --verify %s %f set pgp_decrypt_command=gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose --batch --output - %f set pgp_sign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign \ --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_clearsign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - --passphrase-fd 0 --armor \ --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_encrypt_only_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --batch --quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt \ --textmode --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to ... -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose \ --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust --encrypt-to ky -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_import_command=gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f set pgp_export_command=gpg --no-verbose --export --armor %r set pgp_verify_key_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --fingerprint --check-sigs %r set pgp_list_pubring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-keys %r set pgp_list_secring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r set pgp_good_sign=^gpg: Good signature from And my .gpg.rc # GnuPG configuration set pgp_decode_command=gpg --status-fd=2 %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --quiet --batch --output - %f set pgp_verify_command=gpg --status-fd=2 --no-verbose --quiet --batch --output - --verify %s %f set pgp_decrypt_command=gpg --status-fd=2 %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose --quiet --batch --output - %f set pgp_sign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --quiet --output - %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --armor --detach-sign --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_clearsign_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --quiet --output - %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f set pgp_encrypt_only_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --batch --quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_encrypt_sign_command=/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output %- --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f set pgp_import_command=gpg --no-verbose --import %f set pgp_export_command=gpg --no-verbose --export --armor %r set pgp_verify_key_command=gpg --verbose --batch --fingerprint --check-sigs %r set pgp_list_pubring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --quiet --with-colons --list-keys %r set pgp_list_secring_command=gpg --no-verbose --batch --quiet --with-colons --list-secret-keys %r set pgp_good_sign=^\\[GNUPG:\\] GOODSIG My version of mutt is 1.5.23 and gpg is 1.4.18 Thanks and sorry for a lenghty post. /Jonas signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: pin flagged messages
On 12.Mar 2014, 20:03, Mart Lubbers wrote: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 06:43:01PM +0100, Jonas Petong wrote: On 11.Mar 2014, 13:23, Mart Lubbers wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 07:37:27AM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 27 Feb 2014, Mart Lubbers wrote: Hi, I've looked in the overwhelming and detailed documentation but couldn't find an answer. I was wondering if it was possible to pin flagged emails on top of the mailbox. So that mutt displays my email by date(or any other sorting method I initialized) but always keeps my flagged as important mails(by ^F) pinned to the top of the screen. You would need to use scoring for this, and to sort by score. I'd recommend to configure your scoring rules as follows: # # default - scoring unscore * score '~A' +1 # all messages start with score 1 score ~F+9 # flagged mails are important score ~D=0 # this is a deleted email # # thresholds set score_threshold_delete=0 # delete messages with score 0 # # basic-coloring color index default white ~n'1-1' color index default yellow ~n'1' color index red default '~D' # # SPAM rules score ~s'sex'|~s'adult'|~s'penis'|~s'xxx'|~s'viagra' -99 # delete this -- David Champion • d...@bikeshed.us Thanks again, I've been working on this for some hours and have it almost done, the only thing that doesn't work is the sorting. I'm using this macro for pinning posts, it basically flags the message and then scores all flagged messages 1 and all others 0. macro index \CP flag-messageenter-commandunscore *enterenter-commandscore ~A 0enterenter-commandscore ~F 1enter toggle pin Following the scoring-rules explained above, your command should rather look like this: macro index,browser \CP \ flag-message:source ~/.muttrcenter \ Flag Message then source scoring rules Now I want it to be sorted first on score and then on date. So all messages with score 1 have to be on top and sorted on date and all messages with score 0 have to be under the score 1 messages and also sorted on date. Is this possible? I've tried lots of sort and sort_aux methods but couldn't find the right configuration. It would be even better if my thread view stays in tact. For this it would be enough to just define set sort=score set sort_aux=reverse-date OR you can even define a scoring rule matching your Inbox-Folder... folder-hook ~/path/to/your/inbox set sort=score folder-hook ~/path/to/your/inbox set sort_aux=reverse-date this should all go into your ~/.muttrc and I think you're fine. BTW I think it's a nice idea to pin your flagged messages on top of your mails received, so it makes you remind responding them by time. I'd be interested if someone came up with a way to sort them as threads in the second place! Thanks, Mart cheers --- 'It always seems impossible until it's done.' Nelson Mandela - Live by this people! Hi, Thanks for the response, it is still not how I want it. My thread structure is gone and the date is with the newest the lowest whereas I would like my newest to be the first. Yes right, this seems unachievable with the vim-own sort settings. For me it makes no difference whether I choose sort_aux=date, sort_aux=reverse-date or even sort_aux=reverse-last-date-received. All of the three methods will rearrange my messages from first-, to last-received, instead of the other way round. Mart ps. The scoring is very clever, however if you have some commands that you want to run exactly once in your muttrc you have a problem:) If you create a standalone config-file, which contains your scoring rules only, there is no need to source your entire muttrc. You could name this file e.g. ~/.mutt/muttrc_scoring and than adjust above mentioned macro to make it source your muttrc_scoring file only. Anyhow those should be sourced at startup as well. To achieve this, just put the following line into your muttrc: so ~/.mutt/muttrc_scoring \CP will exclusively reload your scoring rules, not your muttrc anymore! Still remaining the 'set sort' issue, which seems somehow rare to me. Hopefully there'll be someone delivering an explanation for it, since for me it seems unexplainable. cheers --- jonas 'It always seems impossible until it's done.' Nelson Mandela - Live by this people!
Re: pin flagged messages
On 11.Mar 2014, 13:23, Mart Lubbers wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 07:37:27AM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 27 Feb 2014, Mart Lubbers wrote: Hi, I've looked in the overwhelming and detailed documentation but couldn't find an answer. I was wondering if it was possible to pin flagged emails on top of the mailbox. So that mutt displays my email by date(or any other sorting method I initialized) but always keeps my flagged as important mails(by ^F) pinned to the top of the screen. You would need to use scoring for this, and to sort by score. I'd recommend to configure your scoring rules as follows: # # default - scoring unscore * score '~A' +1 # all messages start with score 1 score ~F+9 # flagged mails are important score ~D=0 # this is a deleted email # # thresholds set score_threshold_delete=0# delete messages with score 0 # # basic-coloring color index default white ~n'1-1' color index default yellow ~n'1' color index red default '~D' # # SPAM rules score ~s'sex'|~s'adult'|~s'penis'|~s'xxx'|~s'viagra' -99# delete this -- David Champion • d...@bikeshed.us Thanks again, I've been working on this for some hours and have it almost done, the only thing that doesn't work is the sorting. I'm using this macro for pinning posts, it basically flags the message and then scores all flagged messages 1 and all others 0. macro index \CP flag-messageenter-commandunscore *enterenter-commandscore ~A 0enterenter-commandscore ~F 1enter toggle pin Following the scoring-rules explained above, your command should rather look like this: macro index,browser \CP \ flag-message:source ~/.muttrcenter \ Flag Message then source scoring rules Now I want it to be sorted first on score and then on date. So all messages with score 1 have to be on top and sorted on date and all messages with score 0 have to be under the score 1 messages and also sorted on date. Is this possible? I've tried lots of sort and sort_aux methods but couldn't find the right configuration. It would be even better if my thread view stays in tact. For this it would be enough to just define set sort=score set sort_aux=reverse-date OR you can even define a scoring rule matching your Inbox-Folder... folder-hook ~/path/to/your/inbox set sort=score folder-hook ~/path/to/your/inbox set sort_aux=reverse-date this should all go into your ~/.muttrc and I think you're fine. BTW I think it's a nice idea to pin your flagged messages on top of your mails received, so it makes you remind responding them by time. I'd be interested if someone came up with a way to sort them as threads in the second place! Thanks, Mart cheers --- 'It always seems impossible until it's done.' Nelson Mandela - Live by this people!
Re: Yet another 'duplicate' thread
On 15.Nov 2013, 01:18, Gregor Zattler wrote: Hi Jonas, * Jonas Petong jonas.pet...@web.de [13. Nov. 2013]: On 13.Nov 2013, 13:01, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 18:50:44 +0100, Jonas Petong wrote: Cameron, you were right, the message id's are the same. From the matter of fact that limiting my Inbox by ~= did not work led me to the conclusion that their IDs have been different. Seems like you've teached me wrong so. What happens when you try to limit by ~= ? (Note that as I understand this limit only works when the sort order is thread. That is, with no limit applied you should be seeing the duplicate messages marked with an = character your mailbox index listing, and then those marked messages will be selected by the ~= filter.) solved... but then, why limit the view? Delete the duplicate message right away: 1) open mailfoder in question 2) switch to threaded view (per default the key binding is ot) 3) delete-pattern ~= (per default the key-binding is D~=RETURN 4) carefully examine if the right messages are flagged with a D 5) expunge the messages via sync-messages (default key-binding in index is $). In fact this is how I did in the end. Thank you anyways, though. Seems like I didn't point this out in detail when writing my first request. Have a nice weekend! Jonas Done. HTH, Gregor -- the basis of a healthy, tidy mind is a big trash basket. [Kurt Tucholsky]
Re: Yet another 'duplicate' thread
On 14.Nov 2013, 10:24, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 13.Nov 2013, 13:01, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: (Note that as I understand this limit only works when the sort order is thread. That is, with no limit applied you should be seeing the duplicate messages marked with an = character your mailbox index listing, and then those marked messages will be selected by the ~= filter.) Worth restating. This is something of a mutt annoyance - silent failure. On 13Nov2013 20:38, Jonas Petong jonas.pet...@web.de wrote: Sorry for that one! Cameron, could you explain me anyhow how to use that script you proposed? Or at least which environment to set? Might be of use for further stuck in nowhere problems (even if for no reason as in my case). You all have a great day! Well, the script as supplied is pseudocode (and of course untested), but based around using Python. (If you don't know Python, it is well worth learning.) in fact I was going to learn python anyways for the simple fact that it is the preferred script language to manage a raspberry pi! I'll take your advice for sure then. A fuller (but still totally untested) sketch might look like this: #!/usr/bin/python import sys import email.parser from mailbox import Maildir # get the maildir pathname from the command line mdirpath = sys.argv[1] # open the Maildir M = Maildir(mdirpath) # list holding message information L = [] for key in M.keys(): # open the message file fp = M.get_file(key) # load the headers from this message hdrs = email.parser.Parser().parse(fp, headersonly=True) # speculative: get the filename of the message pathname = fp.name fp.close() # make a tuple with the info we want info = hdrs['date'], hdrs['subject'], hdrs['message-id'], key, pathname L.append(info) # sort the list # because we have date then subject in the tuple, the sort order is date then subject # (then message-id, then key) L = sorted(L) # this last bit could be adapted to move every second message elsewhere for i in range(0, len(L), 2): date, subject, message_id, key, pathname = L[i] fp.close() ... decide what to do... The last loop iterates 0, 2, 4,... up to the largest index in the list L. Pulling every second message like this is very fragile - you needed to be totally sure that you had an exactly duplicated set of messages. Personally, I would be inclined to make a dict instead of a list, mapping message-ids to a list of message paths (or the info tuples). Then you can iterate over the dict and remove or move sideways the second and following messages for each message-id, leaving only the original. I'd also be writing this script to print a report instead of moving/deleting. Then I can examine the output for sanity before hitting the button. If the report went: pathname message-id date subject it would be easy to read the pathnames from a second script to do the actual message removal. Or whatever. Please feel free to ask whatever questions you like. I do a lot of stuff with Maildirs and Python; I replaced procmail with my own mail filing program a year or so ago. the only thing left for me to do is following the good example of Maurice speaking out my regards for this deep-in-detail answer. Thank you so much for your effort! In the way you were explaining those two lines of code makes it easy to understand and, in fact, is a perfect start to learn python. Even if that wasn't my intention in the first place ;-) Thank you, Cameron! cheers, jonas Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au Q: How many user support people does it take to change a light bulb? A: We have an exact copy of the light bulb here and it seems to be working fine. Can you tell me what kind of system you have? -- the basis of a healthy, tidy mind is a big trash basket. [Kurt Tucholsky]
Re: Yet another 'duplicate' thread
On 13.Nov 2013, 00:48, Ken Moffat wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:22:24PM +0100, Jonas Petong wrote:
Today I accidentally copied my mails into the same folder where they had
been
stored before (evil keybinding!!!) and now I'm faced with about a 1000
copies
within my inbox. Since those duplicates do not have a unique mail-id, it's
hopeless to filter them with mutts integrated duplicate limiting pattern.
Command 'limit~=' has no effect in my case and deleting them by hand
will take me hours!
I know this question has been (unsuccessfully) asked before. Anyhow is
there is
a way to tag every other mail (literally every nth mail of my inbox-folder)
and
afterwards delete them? I know something about linux-scripting but
unfortunately
I have no clue where to start with and even which script-language to use.
This close-to-topic approach with 'fdupes' has been released some time ago
(http://consolematt.wordpress.com/tag/fdupes/) but in my view it seems way
to
complicated. As I could recognize from mutts mailing archive, I'm not the
only
one who has had trouble with it. Therefore I appreciate any hint which
drives me
into the right direction and helps me solving this.
Running Mutt 1.5.21 under Ubuntu Gnome 13.10. (Linux 3.11.0-13-generic).
I don't have a script, but I usually view lists without threading,
using date/time sent in sender's timezone (%d) - I'm sure that using
the local time zone (%D) probably works the same way. On occasion I've
had to change which of my upstreams was subscribed to heavy-traffic
lists such as lkml, and at other times I've occasionally had mails
appearing twice after upstream problems. When needed, it's just a
case of looking at the index and deleting every other mail.
Tedious, but achievable - particularly for only 1000 mails - I've
done more than that in the past ;-)
me too, but I thought that was kind of a waste of time if there was a
possibility to solve this with a script automatically. Or even better within
mutt itself. By the way I'm a bit worried about my 'j' key ;-)
I believe the order in which I see mails is governed by
index_format [ I haven't looked at this stuff in ages - why break
what works for me ]. Mine is:
set index_format=%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n (%?l?%4l%4c?) %s
looks pretty much like mine.
If you aren't a reckless person, turn off incoming mail and backup
the directory or mbox before you try *any* solution.
thank you for that one, I mean it! Wouldn't be the first time trying to restore
old folders from my external backup drive. Just stored a copy of my ~/Mails :-)
ĸen
--
das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce
--
the basis of a healthy, tidy mind is a big trash basket. [Kurt Tucholsky]
Re: Yet another 'duplicate' thread
On 13.Nov 2013, 13:01, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 18:50:44 +0100, Jonas Petong wrote: Cameron, you were right, the message id's are the same. From the matter of fact that limiting my Inbox by ~= did not work led me to the conclusion that their IDs have been different. Seems like you've teached me wrong so. What happens when you try to limit by ~= ? (Note that as I understand this limit only works when the sort order is thread. That is, with no limit applied you should be seeing the duplicate messages marked with an = character your mailbox index listing, and then those marked messages will be selected by the ~= filter.) solved... this is really a newbies error: not reading the manual properly -.- Sorry for that one! Cameron, could you explain me anyhow how to use that script you proposed? Or at least which environment to set? Might be of use for further stuck in nowhere problems (even if for no reason as in my case). You all have a great day! Nathan -- the basis of a healthy, tidy mind is a big trash basket. [Kurt Tucholsky]
Yet another 'duplicate' thread
Today I accidentally copied my mails into the same folder where they had been stored before (evil keybinding!!!) and now I'm faced with about a 1000 copies within my inbox. Since those duplicates do not have a unique mail-id, it's hopeless to filter them with mutts integrated duplicate limiting pattern. Command 'limit~=' has no effect in my case and deleting them by hand will take me hours! I know this question has been (unsuccessfully) asked before. Anyhow is there is a way to tag every other mail (literally every nth mail of my inbox-folder) and afterwards delete them? I know something about linux-scripting but unfortunately I have no clue where to start with and even which script-language to use. This close-to-topic approach with 'fdupes' has been released some time ago (http://consolematt.wordpress.com/tag/fdupes/) but in my view it seems way to complicated. As I could recognize from mutts mailing archive, I'm not the only one who has had trouble with it. Therefore I appreciate any hint which drives me into the right direction and helps me solving this. Running Mutt 1.5.21 under Ubuntu Gnome 13.10. (Linux 3.11.0-13-generic). cheers, jonas
Re: Better folder navigation ?
On 25/03/2013, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: With ~250 nested folders the 'c' change folder is rather tedious to use. Is there a command to search for a folder by name so I don't have to type/complte in the full name ? You could list your mailboxes by using the mailboxes command in your muttrc file. Then you can easily switch by using the y key: yMchange-folder?toggle-mailboxes show incoming mailboxes list Then you'll get a list of all your mailboxes and you can search them using the / key. Or is it somehow possible to write a macro that uses find shell command to locate list of possible folders and then have me choose the right one ? Thanks, /max
Re: Mutt Quick Reference v.1.00
Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [10-17-07 19:47]: I would be interested in mairix as well as I'm using maildir format. jfyi, mairix now also works with mbox files :^) How does mairix integrate with Mutt? I am very interested, but does it work with Cyrus? /jonas
Viewing attached pdf files
Hi fellow Mutt users, How have you solved the problem with viewing attached pdf documents withing Mutt? I just discovered pdftohtml and pdftotxt and will start digging on how to use them. Since a pdf file is an octetstream I can't just use .mailcap since that is dependant on the document type specified in the MIME header, right? (Only looking for octetstream will cause alot of other document types to be viewed with the same tool.) /jonas
