Re: New Mails Old Mails No Mails
Am 17.09.2001 (17:47) schrieb David T-G: Hi ... % I have read all the mails about the missing N Flag on not so new mails but % none of the tips seam to work for me. It can be confusing. What you describe actually sounds like the correct behavior. [...] Note that when you enter the mailbox, even if you don't make any changes or read any messages, you've accessed it, and so the next time mutt lists it in the browser it won't be marked as new. That 'N' flag has *nothing* to do with the state of messages in the file, but actually is only an indication of the update time of the file. OK I can live with that ... so lets change the question a bit: What is the use of nomark_old? Is it just for the TAB business? I have changed TAB to: bind pager tab next-unread bind index tab next-unread is there any other use for it? Is there any why to get an overview on unread mails (either marked N or O)? I start mutt with die -y option and would like to see all the folder with unread mail. -- Thomas Kniep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP signature
Re: New Mails Old Mails No Mails
Thomas -- ...and then Thomas Kniep said... % Am 17.09.2001 (17:47) schrieb David T-G: % % Hi ... Hello again. % % Note that when you enter the mailbox, even if you don't make any changes % or read any messages, you've accessed it, and so the next time mutt lists % it in the browser it won't be marked as new. That 'N' flag has *nothing* % to do with the state of messages in the file, but actually is only an % indication of the update time of the file. % % OK I can live with that ... so lets change the question a bit: Ready :-) % % What is the use of nomark_old? Is it just for the TAB business? I have Well, it could al so be for your use. As I interpret it, the 'N' flag is for mail that has arrived and which you have not yet evaluated -- read, replied, or at least recognized. Once you've recognized it, even if you haven't read it or replied to it, you have seen it and you don't need to have it called to your attention the next time you open the mailbox and look for newly-arrived mail, so you could allow (with mark_old set) it to be changed from 'N'ew to 'O'ld, even while preserving its unread status. Of course, once you've read it, the 'N' or 'O' is cleared, and when you reply the 'r' is set. I use this to determine whether or not I pretend to have read it; when a message comes in, if I can't identify it I read it (and I might delete it, save it to another folder, reply to it, or whatever, finishing my necessary processing) if I have the time (and if I don't have the time, it just stays 'N'). If it's something of interest to read or process later but not immediate, I'll re-mark it 'O'ld, indicating its unread status (*wink*) but lowering its urgency; if it's something that will need attention soon, I'll re-mark it 'N'ew to put it back on the heap, so to speak. % changed TAB to: % % bind pager tab next-unread % bind index tab next-unread % % is there any other use for it? % % Is there any why to get an overview on unread mails (either marked N or O)? Hmmm... You might have truly meant 'why' instead of 'way', and I don't think there's an overview of that, but it's not a bad idea. If you mean 'way', then I'm not sure what you mean other than the index view showing them to you; if you want some sort of analysis like 23 New messages, 41 Old messages, 17 read messages, 6 replied messages you'll have to write it -- but it sounds like a lovely idea ;-) % % I start mutt with die -y option and would like to see all the folder with % unread mail. Since mutt doesn't look inside the folders as it scans them (gosh, imagine how frightfully long *that* could take!), you won't get any information relevant to N/O/ /r at that stage (or at the folder browser stage); that's where the update-time and access-time thing comes in. % % -- % Thomas Kniep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) % HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
Re: New Mails Old Mails No Mails
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010918 02:51]: ...and then Thomas Kniep said... % Am 17.09.2001 (17:47) schrieb David T-G: % Is there any why to get an overview on unread mails (either marked N or O)? Hmmm... You might have truly meant 'why' instead of 'way', and I don't think there's an overview of that, but it's not a bad idea. If you mean 'way', then I'm not sure what you mean other than the index view showing them to you; if you want some sort of analysis like 23 New messages, 41 Old messages, 17 read messages, 6 replied messages you'll have to write it -- but it sounds like a lovely idea ;-) try limiting to ~O, to display only old messages. limit is by default bound to 'l', so you'd go like this: hit l at the limit prompt, type ~O, and hit enter now you see only messages marked Old. Or maybe you're looking for this [N=%n,*=%t,old=%o,post=%p,new=%b] in your status_format somewhere? HTH, -- Vineet http://www.anti-dmca.org Unauthorized use of this .sig may constitute violation of US law. echo Qba\'g gernq ba zr\! |tr 'a-zA-Z' 'n-za-mN-ZA-M' PGP signature
New Mails Old Mails No Mails
Hi ... I have read all the mails about the missing N Flag on not so new mails but none of the tips seam to work for me. I am using the latest Debian mutt (1.3.22i) on an a Debian potato system. I use the courier-IMAP-Server. And this N Flag just does not seam to work for me. I have new mail in some folder. I change to this folder, I read some mails (not all of them) I quit. I come back and get no sign at all that there are still some new mails in this folder. The folder is in my mailboxes list. I have tried the set mark_old=no setting the old mails had an N-flag, but the folder index just told me there were 0 new mails in it. Is this an IMAP problem? Is there any workaround? Is there any way to show the Old mails on the folder index? -- Thomas Kniep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP signature
Re: New Mails Old Mails No Mails
Thomas -- ...and then Thomas Kniep said... % Hi ... Hello! % % I have read all the mails about the missing N Flag on not so new mails but % none of the tips seam to work for me. It can be confusing. What you describe actually sounds like the correct behavior. % % I am using the latest Debian mutt (1.3.22i) on an a Debian potato system. I % use the courier-IMAP-Server. And this N Flag just does not seam to work for % me. % % I have new mail in some folder. I change to this folder, I read some mails % (not all of them) I quit. I come back and get no sign at all that there are % still some new mails in this folder. The folder is in my mailboxes list. I % have tried the set mark_old=no setting the old mails had an N-flag, but % the folder index just told me there were 0 new mails in it. When in your index (you're in the mailbox), you'll see an N flag next to any unread mail, and if you 'q'uit with nomark_old set or e'x'it (perhaps after a '$'sync), you'll see those the next time you enter that mailbox. When in your browser choosing mailboxes to enter, you'll see an N flag next to any whose update time (when it was written) is later than its access time (when it was read). mutt basically interprets that, since mail gets dropped in and changes the update time without changing the access time (because the mail is simply appended to the existing file), as the folder has new mail. Note that when you enter the mailbox, even if you don't make any changes or read any messages, you've accessed it, and so the next time mutt lists it in the browser it won't be marked as new. That 'N' flag has *nothing* to do with the state of messages in the file, but actually is only an indication of the update time of the file. % % Is this an IMAP problem? % Is there any workaround? % Is there any way to show the Old mails on the folder index? HTH HAND let us know if you have further questions. % % -- % Thomas Kniep ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! PGP signature
