Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Cameron, On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: For me this is all theoretical so far as I have not had time. But it is a real issue I need to address, and I'd like to hear of your efforts if you try this route. I have been doing this for some years now, with

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:07:10AM +, John Long wrote: I don't see how IMAP helps. What exactly is the difference in terms of how you read mail and where the apps run as opposed to POP? The only thing IMAP does it make you rely on a remote mail server. I never use IMAP unless

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it never felt quite as easy and transparent as using mutt on a local

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:33:05AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:11:53AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:07:10AM +, John Long wrote: I don't see how IMAP helps. What exactly is the difference in terms of how you read mail and where the apps run as opposed to POP? The only thing IMAP does

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:56:04AM +, John Long wrote: If I understood you then yes, but the local machine as far as mutt is concerned is the machine where mutt is running [your remote system], not where you are running [your ssh session from, your local system]. All mutt's working

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:57:33AM +, John Long wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:33:05AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP - my conclusion/solution

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Green
Thanks everyone for all the ideas and feedback. I *think* I have a solution that will work for me. I'll change the default mutt temporary directory to something that I can mount easily on the laptop using sshfs, as long as this has a unique name that can be the same on the desktop server and on

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:36:48AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:56:04AM +, John Long wrote: If I understood you then yes, but the local machine as far as mutt is concerned is the machine where mutt is running [your remote system], not where you are running

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:42:49AM +, Chris Green wrote: If we all misunderstood and you have multiple instances of mutt running and want to be able to access your mail from any of them then use POP and leave the email on the server. Are you forced to use IMAP? I currently read my

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Dave Dodge
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. This works well in general but there are some disadvantages, in particular the 'v' command to access and view HTML, PDF and other [...] So, I'm wondering

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Will Yardley
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:38:18PM +, Chris Green wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:30:46AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:21]: E.g. if I want to view an HTML E-Mail in Firefox (default browser) instead of within mutt (using lynx) can I just do

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Eduardo Alvarez
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:04:26PM +, Chris Green wrote: Hello, Chris, What I do is that at work, I mount my home mail folder using sshfs. That way, I can use my local copies of mutt, xpdf, etc. With large messages, it can get slow, sometimes, but it does save some time. Yes,

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 09Dec2014 10:33, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it never felt

Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. This works well in general but there are some disadvantages, in particular the

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:21]: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. This works well in general

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:30:46AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:21]: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:40]: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 10:30:46AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:21]: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:12:27AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 10:40]: I work somewhat similarily. I store all mail on my local box and maintain a tmux session which I access remotely via ssh -X. I can view html using the home machine's browser

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 11:52]: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:12:27AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: [...] From *outside* I utilize fish://ip-addr/local/directory/... Usually the html files are not that large and doing the transfer in the background, you can continue doing

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 12:15:06PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Green c...@isbd.net [12-08-14 11:52]: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:12:27AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: [...] From *outside* I utilize fish://ip-addr/local/directory/... Usually the html files are not that large

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. I suspect

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Eduardo Alvarez
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. This works

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 06:33:40PM +, John Long wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 06:40:15PM -0300, Eduardo Alvarez wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
* Chris Green c...@isbd.net [2014-12-08 17:09 -0500]: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it never felt quite as easy and transparent as using mutt on a local mail spool. I stopped using IMAP directly a while ago, and

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:59:17PM +, Chris Green wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 06:33:40PM +, John Long wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it never felt quite as easy and transparent as using mutt on a local mail spool. I would advocate trying offlineimap. I am a huge fan