Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS wrote: > Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that > replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions, > though may will offer friendly customized browsers for > users who want them, and a few misguided carriers wi

RE: Whitelisting, AOL E.mail etc.

2003-10-24 Thread Deepak Jain
One point I'd like to mention is that most AOL antispam guys also have an aol.net address. When AOL.COM has stopped accepting your mail, aol.net still will. [Postmaster, for example]. Deepak Jain AiNET > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > S

Re: Whitelisting, AOL E.mail etc.

2003-10-24 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
This was presented at this weeks NANOG by AOL: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0310/spam.html On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Robert Mathews wrote: > > > All: > > I have weighed the benefit of posting Vs. NOT posting this information to > NANOG. I found that posting this note to the larger community was >

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS
Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions, though may will offer friendly customized browsers for users who want them, and a few misguided carriers will provide drivers for PPPoE or other evil excuses for protocols (:-

RE: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Henry Linneweh
A bunch of optical ethernet guys make everything one would need from the enterprise to the metro area, GigE to dwdm to sonet/sdh  http://www.luminous.com/   -HRLDeepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A bunch of guys make these in very simple configurations.MRV: http://www.mrv.com/product/MRV-FD-SF/

Re: Whitelisting, AOL E.mail etc.

2003-10-24 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
Robert, and all, > 2) Having the requisite AOL contact information in any event - might > be important toward at least partially achieving a resolve to future > problems. Also let me remind folks that this is exactly what EDDB is for - to provide a place to find contact information in situation

Fwd: Re: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Timo Janhunen
Canoga Perkins hasn't updated their website to show specs for the 9119 single fiber transceivers. You'll have to call them for details on that specific model, as it became available recently. Regards, Timo The Canoga Perkins 9119 (100MB) and 9120 (1000MB) series are tried and true. They have

Re: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Dennis Hayes
I would stay away from IMC, they may be cheap but you get what you pay for. Timo's is right, the Canoga transceivers are excellent. The only problem I've had is with the standalone models; the power supply had failed on a couple of them, but swap them out with another and your off and running a

SEC-Letter (was: Re: NOAA warning for rf communications)

2003-10-24 Thread Gregory Hicks
> From: Bob Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:27:23 -0400 > [...snip...] > Don't expect warnings like this in the future; Congress is likely to > drop the Space Environment Center's funding to 0. > http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/10/03/3/ > Bob Saw Bob's message and

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Kevin Loch
The NOAA links seem saturated... http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ I have a Solar Data page here: http://n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html And Solar status monitor images you can deep link on your own page: http://n3kl.org/sun/status.html The above pages poll data from ftp.sec.noaa.gov, which is still available. K

Re: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Timo Janhunen
The Canoga Perkins 9119 (100MB) and 9120 (1000MB) series are tried and true. They have single fiber and dual fiber versions available. We have over 50 units currently deployed. See http://www.canogaperkins.com/library/datasheets/index.asp#LAN. In terms of pricing, they are a bit more expensive

RE: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Peter John Hill
gbic form factor. No experience with it, but looks pretty cool for special cases... Peter Hill --On Friday, October 24, 2003 2:09 PM -0400 Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A bunch of guys make these in

RE: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Deepak Jain
A bunch of guys make these in very simple configurations. MRV: http://www.mrv.com/product/MRV-FD-SF/appdrawing/ There are companies that make a plug-in GBIC that is single attach as well, but I can't seem to find the URL readily. Something similar: http://www.iteck.com/eng/products/pdf/GMC(Rev

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Anton L. Kapela
Rodney Joffe said: [snip] > 900 mhz and 1800 mhz. And facing East or West. And Satellite, > somewhat above 2.0 ghz. Hmm. > And a significant number of ISPs are currently employing 802.11 2.4 > and 5.0+ ghz equipment for last mile links (Proxim Tsunami) and > Motorola Canopy gear. The PSD of t

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Todd Vierling
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Keptin Komrade Dr. BobWrench III esq. wrote: : Well, this is more than you really wanted to know, but : HF High3mhz-30mhz I realize this. However, satellite communications (which were mentioned in the notice) are certainly not in the HF band. I

AS num and route flaps

2003-10-24 Thread Rodney Joffe
Is anyone aware of any relationship between AS numbers and route dampening? Are there any situations, or knobs to be tweaked, that can result in an AS being dampened due to flaps, rather than only ip addresses and prefixes and meds coming into play? I'm working on a tech draft for IPv4 anycast in

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Bob Snyder
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 01:22, Rodney Joffe wrote: > I'm surprised that there has been no warning or discussion on NANOG... > > There is a high likelihood that things like 802.11, licensed and > unlicensed microwave links, and certainly satellite links will sustain > interference over the next few

Whitelisting, AOL E.mail etc.

2003-10-24 Thread Robert Mathews
All: I have weighed the benefit of posting Vs. NOT posting this information to NANOG. I found that posting this note to the larger community was important perhaps for two reasons. They are: 1) The problems that we at the University of Hawai'i experienced from 10/17 - 10/20 with AOL, effected

Re: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Roman Volf wrote: > Show Version: > > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software > IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-I-M), Version 12.2(12a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) > > flash image: > System image file is "flash:c3620-i-mz.122-12a.bin" > > > I'm trying to configure a FastEthern

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Scott Granados
Wouldn't 2.4 ghz fall in that range or does hf mean hf in the classical sense of something on the scale of 3 to 49 mhz or so. On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Roy wrote: > > According to the notice > > "Satellite and other spacecraft operations, power systems, high > frequency communications, and navigatio

Urgent request, need a drop in CAL

2003-10-24 Thread Rick Duff
I doubt this is even possible, but I have a client who needs Internet, dial-up through T1, he doesn't care, to this address, by the middle of next week at: 100 innovation drive, suite 200, irvine ca 92612 Please contact off list with a voice mail with your full contact information, earliest comp

RE: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Michel Py
You need the "plus" image Michel. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Volf Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ?? Show Version: Cisco Internetwork Operatin

Re: Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Kuhnke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Would anyone like to contribute their favorite solution for doing both >Rx and Tx over a single fiber, in MAN environments? Google for "fiber splitter/combiner" Mike. -- Never trust a statistic you didn't fake yourself.

Re: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread jlewis
This is what http://cio.cisco.com/go/fn is for. You need a "plus" version for VLAN support on the 3620. i.e. IP Plus, Enterprise Plus, etc. Your IP version below doesn't include the feature you're looking for. On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Roman Volf wrote: > > Show Version: > > Cisco Internetwork

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Does everyone have their generators ready? :-) http://www.innerx.net/personal/tsmith/13Mar89.html On 13 March 1989, the voltage of Quebec's power grid began to fluctuate alarmingly. Seconds later, the lights went out across the entire province. Some 6 million people were without electricity

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
At NASA at least, we referred to everything above 1 GHz as microwave. I have never heard SHF and EHF used in practice (and I worked at 8 GHz and above for years). There are two basic dangers here - the electrical grid acts as a big radio antenna and circuit breakers may trip. - The maximum fr

Rx and Tx on a single SMF strand for MANs?

2003-10-24 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Would anyone like to contribute their favorite solution for doing both Rx and Tx over a single fiber, in MAN environments? http://www.imcnetworks.com/products/minimc.asp I've found that unit, but I'm hoping to find some alternatives... Is there anything that will do 1000Mb over a single fib

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Keptin Komrade Dr. BobWrench III esq.
Well, this is more than you really wanted to know, but ELV Exremely Lowdc - 3khz VLF Very Low Freq 3khz - 30khz LF Low Frequency 30khz - 300Khz MF Medium 300Khz - 3Mhz HF High3mhz-30mhz VHF

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Robert Mathews
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Rodney Joffe wrote: > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:22:04 -0700 > From: Rodney Joffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: NANOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: NOAA warning for rf communications > > > I'm surprised that there has been no warning or discussion on NANOG... > > There is a hi

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Rodney Joffe
Owen DeLong wrote: > > This will not likely affect point-to-point line-of-site communications above 50Mhz. > It will likely affect non-terrestrial communications and HF communications depending > on ionospheric reflection. > > Owen Ummm... http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/ce

Re: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
And if all else fails, of course, you should contact cisco tech support folks, not NANOG folk. - ferg Owen writes: int ethernet 0/0.0 encap 802.1q 532 You can't spec the encap on the parent interface. You must do it on the sub int. Owen --On Friday, October 24, 2003 02:49:15

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Tomas Lund
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Rodney Joffe wrote: > The NOAA links seem saturated... http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ Yeah.. The story was on slashdot: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/23/175252&mode=thread&tid=134&tid=160 taken from space.com: http://space.com/scienceastronomy/solar_storm_031023

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Owen DeLong
This will not likely affect point-to-point line-of-site communications above 50Mhz. It will likely affect non-terrestrial communications and HF communications depending on ionospheric reflection. Owen --On Friday, October 24, 2003 07:15:29 AM -0400 Todd Vierling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu,

Re: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Owen DeLong
int ethernet 0/0.0 encap 802.1q 532 You can't spec the encap on the parent interface. You must do it on the sub int. Owen --On Friday, October 24, 2003 02:49:15 AM -0700 Roman Volf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Show Version: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C36

RE: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Kevin Bednar
Correct. Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:47 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NOAA warning for rf communications > "High frequency communications"? > > We *are* tal

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread ed
> "High frequency communications"? > > We *are* talking about multi-GHz frequencies here. HF is generally taken to mean 30Mhz and lower, at least in radio circles. Ghz I think is in the SHF range. -ed - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Brian Bruns
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings > > Is this "mechanism" an SSL connection? HTTP in the clear? AIM? Is it > exploitable? > > I think the intentio

Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Chris Brenton
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 00:22, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:13:59AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > > http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7278 > > > > How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their > > connection support software to fix the defaults on their custome

RE: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings

2003-10-24 Thread Brian Knoblauch
> -Original Message- > How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their > connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's > Windows computers? I've already seen an interesting side effect from a disabled messenger service... With one of those

RE: No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Temkin, David
Kind of OT for NANOG, you should go to cisco-nsp for these kinds of questions. However, to answer your question anyway you need an IP plus version of IOS to get 802.1q/ISL subifs on a 36xx router. That's only plain IP (c3620-i vs. c3620-is) -Original Message- From: Roman Volf [mailto:[E

RE: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Graham, Darel R.
Anything in the wireless or open air communications spectrum will be affected. Think of it as an electronic shower with the pressure being turned up and down over the next two weeks. It is definitely a problem for all radio spectrum users. The only media not affected is cable, to include fiber

The Cidr Report

2003-10-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 24 21:48:22 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Hist

Re: NOAA warning for rf communications

2003-10-24 Thread Todd Vierling
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Roy wrote: : "Satellite and other spacecraft operations, power systems, high : frequency communications, and navigation systems may experience : disruptions over this two-week period." : : I think you will find that 802.11b and other terrestrial microwave LOS : links don't me

No "encapsulation" command on IOS 12.2(12a) ??

2003-10-24 Thread Roman Volf
Show Version: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 3600 Software (C3620-I-M), Version 12.2(12a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) flash image: System image file is "flash:c3620-i-mz.122-12a.bin" I'm trying to configure a FastEthernet sub interface for 802.1q VLANs, but theres no encapsu

Re: China Telecom filtering nameservers

2003-10-24 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Owen DeLong wrote: > Care to share what was going on? Was it really censorship or something more > mundane and less offensive? It was actually about 100Mbps of DOS... Joe took care of it :)