Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Tim Franklin
On Mon, May 21, 2007 11:02 pm, Steve Gibbard wrote: Is the above situation any different from the decision of whether to use locally-expected ccTLDs for local content, or to use the international .com for everything? Ah, assuming local content, no. I was coming more from the 'must protect

Cisco Security Advisory: Vulnerability In Crypto Library

2007-05-22 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Vulnerability In Crypto Library Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20070522-crypto.shtml http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070522-crypto.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2007 May 22 1300 UTC (GMT

Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco IOS While Processing SSL Packets

2007-05-22 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco IOS While Processing SSL Packets Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20070522-SSL http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20070522-SSL.shtml Revision 1.0 For Public Release 2007 May 22 1300 UTC

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Crist Clark
On 5/21/2007 at 2:09 PM, Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:50 PM -0500 5/21/07, Gadi Evron wrote: As to NS fastflux, I think you are right. But it may also be an issue of policy. Is there a reason today to allow any domain to change NSs constantly? Although I rarely find

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Paul Vixie
apropos of this... As to NS fastflux, I think you are right. But it may also be an issue of policy. Is there a reason today to allow any domain to change NSs constantly? ...i just now saw the following on comp.protocols.dns.bind (bind-users@): +--- | From: Wiley Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread David Ulevitch
Gadi Evron wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2007, Chris L. Morrow wrote: ok, so 'today' you can't think of a reason (nor can I really easily) but it's not clear that this may remain the case tomorrow. It's possible that as a way to 'better loadshare' traffic akamai (just to make an example) could start

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Gadi Evron
On 22 May 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: apropos of this... As to NS fastflux, I think you are right. But it may also be an issue of policy. Is there a reason today to allow any domain to change NSs constantly? ...i just now saw the following on comp.protocols.dns.bind (bind-users@):

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 22 May 2007, David Ulevitch wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: On Mon, 21 May 2007, Chris L. Morrow wrote: ok, so 'today' you can't think of a reason (nor can I really easily) but it's not clear that this may remain the case tomorrow. It's possible that as a way to 'better loadshare'

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Roger Marquis
Why are people trying to solve these problems in the core? Because that's the only place it can be done. These issues need to and must be solved at the edge. Been there, done that, with smtp/spam, netbios, and any number of other protocols that would also be ideally addressed at the

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread David Ulevitch
Gadi Evron wrote: People are suggesting it become the rule because nobody is trying anything else. I was with you up to this sentence. Obviously avoiding the core is key, but should we not have the capability of preventing abuse in the core rather than mitigating it there? Allowing NS

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Gadi Evron
On Tue, 22 May 2007, David Ulevitch wrote: snip These questions, and more (but I'm biased to DNS), can be solved at the edge for those who want them. It's decentralized there. It's done the right way there. It's also doable in a safe and fail-open kind of way. This is what I'm

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Fergie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- David Ulevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But very few people (okay, not nobody) are saying, Hey, why should I allow that compromised windows box that has never sent me an MX request before all of the sudden be able to request 10,000 MX records

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread David Ulevitch
Fergie wrote: David, As you (and some others) may be aware, that's an approach that we (Trend Micro) took a while back, but we got a lot (that's an understatement) of push-back from service providers, specifically, because they're not very inclined to change out their infrastructure (in this

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread David Ulevitch
Roger Marquis wrote: Simply saying it is dangerous is indistinguishable from any other verisign astroturfing. It's not everyday that you get accused of astroturfing for Verisign. I'm printing this, framing it, putting it on my wall, and leaving this thread. Thanks! -David

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Joe Provo
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 03:08:06PM +, Chris L. Morrow wrote: [snip] This is sort of the point of the NRIC document/book... 'we need to find/make/use a directory system for the internet' then much talk of how dns was supposed to be that but for a number of reasons it's not, google/insert

RE: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread michael.dillon
The directory that was contracted and 'supposed to' exist as part of the NNSC-to-InterNIC dance was to be built by old-ATT Labs. As far as I can recall, it was ever only an ftp repository and not much of a 'directory and database service' (corrections welcome). Anyone remember the

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 23 May 2007 01:32:41 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone remember the Internet Scout? Even back then labors of love like John December's list were more useful than the Internic services. That worked well for 14,000 .coms. It doesn't work for 140,000,000 .coms. Does everybody on this

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Tue, 22 May 2007, David Ulevitch wrote: Fergie wrote: David, As you (and some others) may be aware, that's an approach that we (Trend Micro) took a while back, but we got a lot (that's an understatement) of push-back from service providers, specifically, because they're not

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Roger Marquis wrote: Why are people trying to solve these problems in the core? Because that's the only place it can be done. it is A PLACE, not necessarily THE PLACE. With every decision as to where there are tradeoffs, be prepared to accept/defend them. These

Re: Interesting new dns failures

2007-05-22 Thread Fergie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Chris L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure work on an expedited removal process inside a real procedure from ICANN down to the registry. Work on a metric and monetary system used to punish/disincent registrys from allowing their systems to