On 14.09 13:23, Roland Perry wrote:
...
more to the point, who decided meeting content? essentially daniel
karrenberg does.
I thought it was a committee of the Workgroup chairs (apart perhaps from
the first day).
Roland,
you are almost right.
From
Daniel,
On 15.09.2004 13:50 Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
Roland,
you are almost right.
From http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/eof-info.html :
The European Operators Forum (EOF) is a forum where new
technologydevelopments of interest to Internet Protocol network
operators
I would much appreciate if EOF gets more input from RIPE operators.
this is a problem with eof, nanog, apricot, ... the actual running
and decision-making is not done by operators. it is done by the
usual well-meaning people representing operators. and, of course,
they are in extreme, and
Randy Bush [15/09/04 09:11 -1000]:
this is a problem with eof, nanog, apricot, ... the actual running
and decision-making is not done by operators. it is done by the
usual well-meaning people representing operators. and, of course,
At least in apricot's case, if anybody wants to help, and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randy Bush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
You can state what you like, but the income from the NCC is
what mostly funds the other RIPE activities, in which case
its all the same to me, does the EOF live on a RIPE.NET server?
Yes. Who funds those servers?
more to the point,
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Philip Smith wrote:
: At 10:36 13/09/2004 -1000, Scott Weeks wrote:
:
: Anyone got a list of all english language NOG mailing lists? So far I
: have AFNOG, SwiNOG (apparently some in english) and SANOG.
:
: My little list includes:
:
: NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, JANOG, EOF, APOPS,
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On 2004-09-14, at 16.36, Scott Weeks wrote:
I briefly looked and NordNOG wasn't an english speaking list. (no
surprise there... :) I only read in english, thus my request for
english
language NOG lists. Did I miss that and are the others
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
: On 2004-09-14, at 16.36, Scott Weeks wrote:
:
: I briefly looked and NordNOG wasn't an english speaking list. (no
: surprise there... :) I only read in english, thus my request for
: english
: language NOG lists. Did I miss that and are
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Philip Smith wrote:
NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, JANOG, EOF, APOPS, SGNOG, NZNOG, NordNOG, SwiNOG, PACNOG
every time i see this list, it makes me want to tell NOG NOG jokes.
richard
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Richard Welty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Averill Park
(B
(BThe NOGs list is available at http://www.bugest.net/nogs.html .
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(BAt 10:36 13/09/2004 -1000, Scott Weeks wrote:
(B
(BAnyone got a list of all english language NOG mailing lists? So far I
(Bhave AFNOG, SwiNOG (apparently some in english) and SANOG.
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(BMy little list
Too many nogs- The RIPE NCC ran a Euro Operators
forum that was probably the most useful.
Neil.
On 13.09.2004 11:18 Neil J. McRae wrote:
Too many nogs- The RIPE NCC ran a Euro Operators
forum that was probably the most useful.
1. EOF is still alive though hardly visible/audible.
2. EOF is not a RIPE NCC activity.
Arnold
2. EOF is not a RIPE NCC activity.
Who runs/funds/maintains it then?
Neil.
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From: Neil J. McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Nicolas DEFFAYET' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Arnold
Nipper' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Ken Gilmour' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:18 AM
Subject: RE: European Nanog?
Too many nogs- The RIPE
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 09:16:33PM +0200, Michel Renfer wrote:
Hi,
The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
That's not correct. The concept works in switzerland with
SwiNOG very well - at least two meetings every year and
a good organized communitiy behind SwiNOG.
Agree, here in .nl we
On 13.09.2004 11:37 Neil J. McRae wrote:
2. EOF is not a RIPE NCC activity.
Who runs/funds/maintains it then?
EOF is run my itself and has a status as a RIPE WG, hence imbedded in RIPE.
Arnold
So the RIPE NCC - thanks.
EOF is run my itself and has a status as a RIPE WG, hence
imbedded in RIPE.
On 13.09.2004 12:20 Neil J. McRae wrote:
So the RIPE NCC - thanks.
EOF is run my itself and has a status as a RIPE WG, hence
imbedded in RIPE.
As already noted here a couple of times:
RIPE != RIPE NCC
Although MERIT is organizing NANOG meetings, no one would say: MERIT ==
As already noted here a couple of times:
RIPE != RIPE NCC
Although MERIT is organizing NANOG meetings, no one would
say: MERIT == NANOG. Right?
I love the obsession that people have with this!
You can state what you like, but the income from the NCC is
what mostly funds the
On 13.09.2004 12:52 Neil J. McRae wrote:
As already noted here a couple of times:
RIPE != RIPE NCC
Although MERIT is organizing NANOG meetings, no one would say:
MERIT == NANOG. Right?
I love the obsession that people have with this!
You can state what you like, but the income
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Arnold Nipper wrote:
As already noted here a couple of times:
RIPE != RIPE NCC
Although MERIT is organizing NANOG meetings, no one would say: MERIT ==
NANOG. Right?
Not quite. As far as I'm concerned, NANOG is part of MERIT activities.
And while I'm not
On 13.09.2004 13:27 william(at)elan.net wrote:
I'm not so certain about RIPE NCC to RIPE relationship though, I suspect
that RIPE NCC is a subset (RIR services or) larger RIPE organization that
is involved in other activities, i.e. RIPE NCC RIPE
No, that's not true. There is no order
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Gilmour
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in
subscribing...
If your network is member of LINX or AMS-IX you will find there some
private lists which discuss a European flavour of many of the things I
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:28:36 +0530, the mental interface of Suresh Ramasubramanian
told:
Daniel Roesen [12/09/04 20:32 +0200]:
But when it comes to mailing list traffic volume, there is no
companion that I'm aware of.
I rather believe that's a feature, not a bug
I'd rather have no mails
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Arnold Nipper wrote:
On 13.09.2004 11:18 Neil J. McRae wrote:
Too many nogs- The RIPE NCC ran a Euro Operators
forum that was probably the most useful.
1. EOF is still alive though hardly visible/audible.
2. EOF is not a RIPE NCC activity.
I'd agree that
2. EOF is not a RIPE NCC activity.
actually, it is. but it did not used to be.
randy
You can state what you like, but the income from the NCC is
what mostly funds the other RIPE activities, in which case
its all the same to me, does the EOF live on a RIPE.NET server?
Yes. Who funds those servers?
more to the point, who decided meeting content? essentially daniel
karrenberg
: The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
: simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/
:
: And there's NordNOG.
Anyone got a list of all english language NOG mailing lists? So far I
have AFNOG, SwiNOG (apparently some in english) and SANOG.
Thanks,
scott
: The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
: simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/
: And there's NordNOG.
Anyone got a list of all english language NOG mailing lists? So far I
have AFNOG, SwiNOG (apparently some in english) and SANOG.
NZNOG
At 10:36 13/09/2004 -1000, Scott Weeks wrote:
Anyone got a list of all english language NOG mailing lists? So far I
have AFNOG, SwiNOG (apparently some in english) and SANOG.
My little list includes:
NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, JANOG, EOF, APOPS, SGNOG, NZNOG, NordNOG, SwiNOG, PACNOG
So, North America,
Hey there!
Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in
subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer
one as well :-)
Thanks for your help
Ken
--
Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems.
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 19:55, Ken Gilmour wrote:
Hi Ken,
Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in
subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer
one as well :-)
http://euronog.org/mailing-lists.php
Subscribe: [EMAIL
Brilliant thanks!
I got a swiss offlist one too that i subscribed to as well. (looks like they have an
interesting ddos tracking one too!)
Maybe i should have broadened my google search with euro nog instead of european
network operators group.
Thanks for your help
Regards,
Ken
On Sun, 12
On 12.09.2004 20:05 Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote:
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 19:55, Ken Gilmour wrote:
Hi Ken,
Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in
subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer
one as well :-)
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 06:55:12PM +0100, Ken Gilmour wrote:
Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe?
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/
But when it comes to mailing list traffic volume, there is no
companion that I'm aware of. Many issues are discussed on other
specialized RIPE mailing
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 20:23, Arnold Nipper wrote:
On 12.09.2004 20:05 Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote:
http://euronog.org/mailing-lists.php
*LOL* This list is so dead you won't believe it ...
There is no real correspondent to NANOG in Europe. EOF
(http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/index.html) has
Hi Nicolas
The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
That's not correct. The concept works in switzerland with
SwiNOG very well - at least two meetings every year and
a good organized communitiy behind SwiNOG.
http://www.swinog.ch
cheers,
michel
Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote:
The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
Same problem of very low activity for local NOG like FRnog,
Swissnog,...
simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/
mort than 500 subscribers, several closed working groups (antispam,
lawful interception, BBCS), 2
The NOG philosophy don't work in Europe.
simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/
And there's NordNOG.
-Bill
Daniel Roesen [12/09/04 20:32 +0200]:
But when it comes to mailing list traffic volume, there is no
companion that I'm aware of.
I rather believe that's a feature, not a bug
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