Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
Can you and he please take the gender debate off-list? Thanks, Owen --On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 17:36 -0800 JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Miss Rothschild wrote: On 2003-03-11-21:01:00, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Note to Mr. Dill, this is not intended to pick on you specifically,

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-13 Thread Owen DeLong
It's probably harder for anyone on this list to take BandyRush seriously than the other posters in question. :-) Owen --On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 22:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:27:51 EST, Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not be offended if somebody didn't

Re: [Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)]

2003-03-12 Thread Joshua Smith
for all of the $adjective schemes and ideas that have been posted, has anyone (besides jon and few others affected) been doing anything substanitive? outreach, more than any technical 'magic' that we can come up with, is the only 'real' solution (subjective real, what is real to me probably

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. Please don't cc me on replies, or on replies to replies, etc. I get the list email just fine and I don't need more than one copy of any given email. Really. 1) nanog can sometimes take hours to forward posts to all members 2) the people directly

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Tim Thorne
JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure you can. You just need content unimportant enough that no one (the end users on a network that is still blocking 69/8, AND the networks that put up the sacrificial target host on a 69/8 IP) is truly hurt if the connection fails, but important enough that

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread JC Dill
Miss Rothschild wrote: On 2003-03-11-21:01:00, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Note to Mr. Dill, this is not intended to pick on you specifically, it's just a convenient place to butt in) Ahem. It's _MS._ Dill, thank you. Please post with a gender-specific name if you want to take offense when

RE: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Vivien M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JC Dill Sent: March 12, 2003 8:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks) It is offensive to many people (both male and female) when someone

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Andy Dills
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, JC Dill wrote: It is offensive to many people (both male and female) when someone automatically assumes that an unknown person is male. Especially since: Females aged 2 and up accounted for 50.4 percent of U.S. Internet users in May, edging out their male

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Jack Bates
From: Vivien M. I've had the opposite problem (people thinking I'm female, when I'm not...), and it can get quite annoying, I agree. Is this a pick up list? Find the guy or gal of your dreams that can think too? I figure that you either earn people's respect or admiration or you don't.

RE: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Vivien M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Bates Sent: March 12, 2003 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks) From: Vivien M. I've had the opposite problem (people

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:27:51 EST, Andy Dills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Not be offended if somebody didn't know my gender? Fortunately, none of the simians on the list have objected to being classified as 'banana eaters' ;) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread McBurnett, Jim
Idea #2.. CNN.com-- Put some of their content.. They would probrably really enjoy the publicity.. And that would really be an educational point.. Anybody here from there??? Jim The suggestion of putting Yahoo or Google on a 69/8 IP led me to this idea: Google could put their *beta*

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 04:44:11PM -0800, JC Dill wrote: Charles Sprickman wrote: Seriously though, somewhere there is a popular site that is non-profit in nature that would trade say a month of free access for the hassle of being put into a widely-blocked block. The suggestion of

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread wireworks
And I'd like to add I agree. The problems were wide at first, they have definitely dropped off. Everyone important, is reachable now it seems. I can think of maybe one or two small islands who might still be unreachable but hey if I lived in the troopics I'd be outside with an umbrella drink

RE: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread Todd A. Blank
Wanting to continue to be a part of the solution, and not part of the problem, I just want to post publicly to the list that we would gladly donate some IP space from our ARIN direct assignment (which lives in the 69/8 CIDR) to the cause. If anyone is interested, please contact me off list.

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 06:01:00PM -0800, JC Dill wrote: Ahem. It's _MS._ Dill, thank you. Woops, my apologies _MS._ Dill. The JC is ambiguous. Maybe next time you will stop and think will this make me look like a sexist idiot in front of engineers across the entire planet? before

Re: Put part of Google on 69/8 (was Re: 69/8...this sucks)

2003-03-11 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2003-03-11-21:01:00, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] (Note to Mr. Dill, this is not intended to pick on you specifically, it's just a convenient place to butt in) Ahem. It's _MS._ Dill, thank you. Please post with a gender-specific name if you want to take offense when