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Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Wayne
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:52 PM
To: Austad, Jay
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dry pair
Austad, Jay wrote:
Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC
At 23:03 29/08/2003, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Patrick Felt wrote:
[snip]
If not,
how would the alarm company get the signal pushed through the fiber, and
could that be done with the dsl signal?
The alarm companies need to deliver extremely small amounts of data which
can range
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:24:35 -0500, Austad, Jay wrote:
I also tried asking for an Alarm Circuit. I even explained to them what it
was, but they still didn't understand. All of the people I talked to
wondered why in the world I would want a pair with no dialtone.
This is what happens when you
Austad, Jay wrote:
Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through a dry
pair between two buildings connected to the same CO?
When I called to order one, no one knew what I was talking about.
-jay
Most of the other responses have covered the various terms to try when
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Wayne wrote:
if you can get a sales rep to sell it to you, getting it repaired when
it fails will be quite a challenge. Seems like business DSL would be
less headache in the long run.
it seems like it would, but thats not the case.
our lads circuits stay up for years
Dan Hollis wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Wayne wrote:
if you can get a sales rep to sell it to you, getting it repaired when
it fails will be quite a challenge. Seems like business DSL would be
less headache in the long run.
it seems like it would, but thats not the case.
our lads circuits
Neither do we. Could you include some more details?
-Greg
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From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2003 17:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dry pair
Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through a dry
pair between two
Have you tried ordering it as an alarm circuit?
Also, it seems like telcos are less willing to provide dry pair anymore.
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Austad, Jay wrote:
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:Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through a dry
:pair between two buildings connected to the same
, 2003 11:14 AM
To: 'Austad, Jay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: dry pair
Neither do we. Could you include some more details?
-Greg
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From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 August 2003 17:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dry pair
Does anyone know to go
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:)
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From: Ejay Hire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:22 AM
To: Pendergrass, Greg; Austad, Jay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: dry pair
He's looking for two wires between two buildings with no switching
equipment on them. You'll have
Order it as an alarm circuit... At least that's how VZ recognizes it in
NY.
-Dave
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From: Austad, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dry pair
Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to
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Subject: Re: dry pair
Have you tried ordering it as an alarm circuit?
Also, it seems like telcos are less willing to provide dry pair anymore.
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Austad, Jay wrote:
:
:Does anyone know to go about getting Qwest or a CLEC to patch through
a dry
:pair between two
Good luck getting one from anything but and old-bell. New LECs tend to
think only in terms of the switch side, since the last mile belongs to
the ILEC anyway. Even the ones that know it don't want to support it,
as they can't do any remote testing when it dies, requiring local
wire and cable
Inc. is now FCI Broadband
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From: Temkin, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 29, 2003 12:29 PM
To: 'Austad, Jay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: dry pair
Order it as an alarm circuit... At least that's how VZ recognizes it in
NY.
-Dave
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Here is the Qwest Tariff (assuming your in Colorado.)
http://tariffs.uswest.com:8000/docs/TARIFFS/Colorado/COAC/co_a_c_s007p00
1.pdf#USW-TOC00
See sheet 16, near the bottom of the page... It looks like you want an
NB3 circuit with DC continuity.
-R
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From:
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From what I recall there is no guarentee that the Qwest
tarrif for NB3 is actually a straight-through copper pair
[section 7.3.1.B.2.a.(4)]... note the restriction of
signaling frequency
see the Terms Conditions in section 7.3.1.B.2.a.(2).
By requesting a circuit
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From: Randy Neals (ORION) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Austad, Jay' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: dry pair
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From what I recall there is no guarentee that the Qwest
tarrif for NB3 is actually
: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: dry pair
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From what I recall there is no guarentee that the Qwest
tarrif for NB3 is actually a straight-through copper pair
[section 7.3.1.B.2.a.(4)]... note the restriction of
signaling frequency
see the Terms
How would an alarm company get around this? Would Qwest need
to run copper into the neighborhood if any one of the people
purchased an alarm? If not, how would the alarm company get
the signal pushed through the fiber, and could that be done
with the dsl signal?
Most home/small business
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