Re: WLAN shielding

2003-12-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
poken of on > the NANOG list yet...that's a good idea too...hmm > > - Erik > > > > -Original Message- > From: Andy Grosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: WLAN shielding > >

RE: WLAN shielding

2003-12-02 Thread Erik Amundson
od ol' WEP for you! I haven't thought of the VPN idea that others have spoken of on the NANOG list yet...that's a good idea too...hmm - Erik -Original Message- From: Andy Grosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-12-02 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: > >Stupid pen-test tricks, instead of using an expensive WiFi scanner and > >cracking WEP; often you can collect better intelligence with a radio > >turned to the frequency used by wireless lapel mics used by executives > >during briefings. > > Or by lecturers forget

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:51 PM -0500 11/26/03, Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, David Lesher wrote: Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our > conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various >

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-12-02 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:06 PM -0500 11/26/03, David Lesher wrote: Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various directional antennae, does anyone have any su

WLAN shielding results

2003-12-02 Thread Andy Grosser
Thanks to all who responded to my query. I suppose I should have added that the brass in my company are somewhat loathe to work a little harder at things like using SecurID tokens, firing up VPN software, etc. "I want a single login solution" is a common mantra on the top floor. OK, OK, we're w

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-12-01 Thread Scott McGrath
There is an adage in the Wireless industry. If it will hold water it will hold RF Energy. Unfortunately this is true and the only method by which you can prevent the egress of 2.4 GHz signals from a defined area is by the use of a faraday cage and since the wavelength is short you need a very

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-27 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > Uhm, dumb question. If it is that important, why are you using > wireless at all? Why not install a cheap switch/hub in the middle of the > conference table and let people plug a patch cord from the hub to their > laptops? I ha

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, David Lesher wrote: > Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our > > conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various > > directional antennae, does anyone have an

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > > My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our > conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various > directional antennae, does anyone have any suggestions or pointers for > other wa

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Niels Bakker
> Andy Grosser wrote: >> My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our >> conference rooms. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Davids (SARA)) [Wed 26 Nov 2003, 21:30 CET]: > What is wrong with the 'good old' 802.1x with EAP or WPA solution? There is a difference between keeping sign

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Marco Davids (SARA)
Andy Grosser wrote: My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various directional antennae, does anyone have any suggestions or pointers for other ways to limit the propagation of signals (i.e. special shie

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread David Barak
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Planning on limiting signal using a physical > mechanism of some sort's > just > >a little too scifi to be useful. > > It's too much effort to shield the room itself, but > you > might want to try making the inverse square law work > for > you by shielding al

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Stephen L Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 12:01 -0500, Andy Grosser wrote: > Apologies in advance if this may not quite be the proper list for such a > question... > > My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our > conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various > dir

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Michael . Dillon
>Planning on limiting signal using a physical mechanism of some sort's just >a little too scifi to be useful. It's too much effort to shield the room itself, but you might want to try making the inverse square law work for you by shielding all of the wireless antennae so that the signal is too

Re: WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Doug Luce
Unless you are looking to isolate a small box for such purposes as testing RF devices, I would not use a shielding technique to limit access to your wireless network. Containing 2.4GHz signals within a room of any reasonable size is extremely difficult. You would probably have to cover it with a

WLAN shielding

2003-11-26 Thread Andy Grosser
Apologies in advance if this may not quite be the proper list for such a question... My company is investigating the use of wireless in a couple of our conference rooms. Aside from limiting the scope of reception with various directional antennae, does anyone have any suggestions or pointers for