SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Seth Mattinen
I'm having a bit of an argument with a customer over the command syntax in RFC 2821 that shows command arguments for MAIL/RCPT commands in brackets, i.e.: Path = [ A-d-l : ] Mailbox Mailbox = Local-part @ Domain Our mail servers reject connections that don't follow the RFC. Am I wrong to

Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 07:51:15AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: Our mail servers reject connections that don't follow the RFC. Am I wrong to do this? Nope. His software is either misconfigured or broken. I'm aware of the be-liberal-in-what-you-accept philosophy (and followed it for many

Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread William Herrin
On Jan 4, 2008 10:51 AM, Seth Mattinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our mail servers reject connections that don't follow the RFC. Am I wrong to do this? Seth, RFC 1122 (Requirements for Internet Hosts - Communication Layers) section 1.2.2 (Robustness Principle): Be liberal in

RE: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Justin Scott
his arguments is even hotmail does not keep up the standards and if we ignore them as It sounds like he's admitting that the RFC is correct, but since Hotmail will accept malformed messages, so should everyone else. He basically wants you to adjust your server to be more lax so he doesn't

Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread William Herrin
On Jan 4, 2008 11:27 AM, Joe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be liberal in what you accept, and That particular philosophy has done great wonders for e-mail and the spam problem Joe, I've heard similarly unsubstantiated versions of this claim over and over. The fact is I've

Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 10:27:47AM -0600, Joe Greco wrote: That particular philosophy has done great wonders for e-mail and the spam problem, I completely agree. If it weren't for that philosophy, we wouldn't have an email problem at all. A -- Andrew Sullivan

Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Jan 4, 2008 5:52 PM, Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completely agree. If it weren't for that philosophy, we wouldn't have an email problem at all. A Becausewe wouldn't have e-mail? Consider the pain of getting worldwide interoperability for a notmail system that

[admin] Re: SMTP addresses in

2008-01-04 Thread Martin Hannigan
Folks, Let's bring this one to closure. The authors question is answered and this is backing itself into an endless thread with arguments better suited for the IETF vs. NANOG. Best Regards, Martin Hannigan NANOG Mailing List Committee On Jan 4, 2008 1:02 PM, Alexander Harrowell [EMAIL

Re: Assigning IPv6 /48's to CPE's?

2008-01-04 Thread James Hess
On Jan 4, 2008 6:02 PM, Rick Astley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know large mostly unused pools of client IP's make it more difficult to use traditional worm propagation methods in IPv6[1], but if customers move from IPv4 firewalls to IPv6 routers, we still lose an important layer of security.