Here's my notes from the community meeting from last night;
sorry about being a bit late with them, the meeting ran long,
and we dashed straight out from it to the social, which had
already started by the time we wrapped up. ^_^;;
Apologies for any typos still in the notes, I did a quick
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:02:24AM -0700, Shrdlu wrote:
I've been following along on this, with quite some interest. I'd
actually be happy to pay to be a member, and be able to retain my
natural state as a recluse.
As yet another recluse, I'd like to suggest an alternate line of thinking.
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the future
for NewNOG to set aside budget to employ stenographers to cover at least
the plenary of the conference. Matt has done an admirable job over the
past few years
On 06/10/10 15:42, Randy Whitney wrote:
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the future
for NewNOG to set aside budget to employ stenographers to cover at least
the plenary of the conference. Matt has
On Oct 6, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:
RIPE meetings have this and it works really well; especially, i suspect, for
non-native English speakers. There is a live app you can watch on the web, and
a projection display in-room.
I imagine it's 'quite expensive'...
APNIC as well, for
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:42:16 -0400
From: Randy Whitney randy.whit...@verizonbusiness.com
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the future
for NewNOG to set aside budget to employ stenographers to
NANOG Community,
After the result of the vote was announced Merit sent the following press
release.
Don
Donald J. Welch, Ph.D.
President and CEO
Merit Network, Inc.
www .merit.edu .merit.edu
Connecting Organizations, Building Community
For Immediate Release
NANOG Community
On 10/6/10 8:32 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:
On 06/10/10 15:02, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Yes, yes, I know about all the reasons in-person meetings have certain
advantages: one group of challenges in going virtual is replicating those
interactions. But again: *this group* seems uniquely qualified to
On 10/6/10 8:42 AM, Randy Whitney wrote:
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the future
for NewNOG to set aside budget to employ stenographers to cover at least
the plenary of the conference. Matt has
On Oct 6, 2010, at 15:25, Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us wrote:
On 10/6/10 8:42 AM, Randy Whitney wrote:
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the future
for NewNOG to set aside budget to employ
On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 15:25, Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us wrote:
On 10/6/10 8:42 AM, Randy Whitney wrote:
As I am reading through Matt's notes since I cannot attend NANOG in
person this time, I'm pondering whether it may make sense in the
From: Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 14:10:59 -0700
I guess I miss the point. When I can go to
nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/agenda.php and watch and listen to the full
meeting, why would I need a transcopt?
If you didn't watch it live, then it's a quick way to
On 10/6/10 3:51 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
it thus may be better for the position of recording secretary to exist
and to be charged with producing just such transcripts. (Which should
be reviewed by attendees and marked up with their corrections -- that is,
in a fashion which shows who
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:35:29 -0600
From: Sean Figgins s...@labrats.us
On 10/6/10 2:50 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote:
I guess I miss the point. When I can go to
nanog.org/meetings/nanog49/agenda.php and watch and listen to the full
meeting, why would I need a transcopt?
Not everyone
On 10/5/10 10:05 PM, Larry Brower wrote:
James Smith wrote:
At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down.
Please confirm in the USA.
~SmithwaySecurity
Sent from my iPhone
We need Alert and ! in the subject? seriously?
Sorry, but I don't see a
Hello,
Is www.lisp4.facebook.com working for places where www.facebook.com is down?
Damien Saucez
On 06 Oct 2010, at 06:47, Michiel Muhlenbaumer wrote:
Hi James,
On 6 okt 2010, at 06:44, James Smith wrote:
At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down.
[[ Note: There are three more apparently hijacked blocks that are related
to the 75 specific blocks I am reporting on herein. I'll be reporting
on those other three blocks later on, but right now I just want to keep
it simple and report on just the ones relating to directnet.net. ]]
Certainly, fine folks at Reliance Globalcom Services, Inc. could tell
us who is paying them to connect these hijacked blocks to their network,
but I rather doubt that they are actually going to come clean and do
that.
Ron, I haven't been following this anti-spam stuff much since it went
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block
allocations be subject to some expiry policy other than it goes into
the drop pool and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and the
associated non-traffic assets) for any interested party at $50 per /24?
Eric
On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
be subject to some expiry policy other than it goes into the drop pool
and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and the associated non-traffic
assets) for any interested
On 10/5/10 10:01 AM, Deric Kwok wrote:
Hi
Anyone can share the Network card experience
ls onborad PCI Expresscard better or Plug in slot PCI Express card good?
both are likely to be pci-e x1 interfaces if it's a single or dual port
chipset.
How are their performance in Gig transfer rate?
We have recently gotten complaints of harrassing and high pressure sales scams
orginating from our NOC's phone number. Since the number is a virtual number on
the PBX, it can't be used for outgoing calls. I assume the scammers choose the
number from the whois db. Anyone else seen this
On Oct 6, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote:
On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
be subject to some expiry policy other than it goes into the drop pool
and one of {enom,pool,...} acquire it (and the
On 06/10/10 10:29 -0400, Matthew Huff wrote:
We have recently gotten complaints of harrassing and high pressure sales scams
orginating from our NOC's phone number. Since the number is a virtual number on
the PBX, it can't be used for outgoing calls. I assume the scammers choose the
number
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Dan White dwh...@olp.net wrote:
If your PBX is SIP based, you might be victim of a SIP registration hijack,
which are on the rise, based on traffic we've been seeing in our network.
I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two days before
getting half a
Our system is PRI based, not sip.
Matthew Huff | One Manhattanville Rd
OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-460-4139
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From: wher...@gmail.com [mailto:wher...@gmail.com] On Behalf
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
Our system is PRI based, not sip.
PRI for origination and termination...but what are your phones? Old
school or VOIP/SIP? If your phone system supports SIP clients, it really
ought to be IP restricted to only allow your phones access, or use
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are not
orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing. People
don't realize that caller id can be spoofed and therefore are 100% sure
Thanks to everyone for a wonderful conference--this wraps
the last of NANOG50--see you all in Miami!
Notes from this morning's session are posted at
http://kestrel3.netflight.com/2010.10.06-NANOG50-morning-notes.txt
sorry about the gaps, I kinda nodded off now and then--only got 2 hours
of
On 10/6/10 9:43 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX
subnet either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the
calls are not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller
id spoofing. People don't realize that caller id can
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are
not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing.
People don't realize that caller id
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matthew Huff wrote:
Digital all the way through. No sip. No outside access to the PBX subnet
either. Just a mininute ago our telco has verified that the calls are
not orginating from out phone system. It's a simple caller id spoofing.
People don't realize that
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:
Thanks again for a wonderful conference!! :)
Thanks very much for the notes!
Regards,
-drc
William Herrin wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Dan White dwh...@olp.net wrote:
If your PBX is SIP based, you might be victim of a SIP registration hijack,
which are on the rise, based on traffic we've been seeing in our network.
I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all
Thanks for the notes Matt! :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Petach [mailto:mpet...@netflight.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:54 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 2010.10.06 NANOG50 day 3, Wednesday morning notes
Thanks to everyone for a wonderful conference--this wraps
the
+1
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Guerra, Ruben ruben.gue...@arrisi.comwrote:
Thanks for the notes Matt! :)
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Petach [mailto:mpet...@netflight.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:54 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 2010.10.06 NANOG50 day 3,
Anyone know of an iPhone application for checking public Looking Glass servers?
Boss called me in a panic when I was out for lunch to check on something and
would make my life much easier but searching for stuff on iTunes is awful.
I have found the iSSH application (iPhone + iPad) works well.
You can ssh tunnel for things (eg: VNC) with ssh keys, etc..
- Jared
link:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/issh-ssh-vnc-console/id287765826?mt=8
On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:44 PM, St. Onge,Adam wrote:
Anyone know of an iPhone application
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Mark Hofman wrote:
Guess productivity will go up ;-)
You'd think so, but my experience is that when Facebook goes down the
whole company will leave their desks and go to the networking people to
get them to fix the Facebook. And they won't leave until Facebook is back.
+1
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:
I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this.
On 10/5/10 9:46 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Same here in SF Bay Area
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith
googling iphone bgp, this result looked promising, but don't waste your
time. It appears to be more or less totally broken.
http://grid5.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/bgp-released/
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Jared Mauch wrote:
I have found the iSSH application (iPhone + iPad) works well.
You can ssh
I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service
provider is having problems and people questioning it since that can
affect many of us who depend on backbone connections, but sites like
facebook and twitter being down should not be posted here but on the
On 06/10/2010 17:15, William Herrin wrote:
I had my unpublished asterisk box up for all of two days before
getting half a megabit per second worth of false SIP registration
attempts.
The script kiddies and botnets seem to by trying hard.
I started announcing a brand new RIR allocation about 4
Especially for Facebook alerts.. You are propagating a false perception
that everyone cares.
-g
On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:20 PM, christian koch wrote:
+1
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote:
I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
Some do. Anyone with control of a phone system with digital lines (i.e.
asterisk with PRI) can trivially set callerID to whatever they want. There
are perfectly legitimate, and not so legitimate uses for this.
You don't even
On 10/6/10 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Oct 6, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote:
On 7/10/10 12:08 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
so ... should domains associated with asn(s) and addr block allocations
be subject to some expiry policy other than it goes into the drop pool
and one of
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Bret Clark wrote:
I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service provider is
you've forgotten that facebook (and indeed twitter too) are service
providers that provide business-critical services.
just because you don't want to play facebook games
:Anyone know of an iPhone application for checking public Looking Glass servers?
:
:Boss called me in a panic when I was out for lunch to check on something and
would make my life much easier but searching for stuff on iTunes is awful.
If you have an AIM or Jabber client on your iPhone, there's
Scott Howard wrote:
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
Some do. Anyone with control of a phone system with digital lines (i.e.
asterisk with PRI) can trivially set callerID to whatever they want. There
are perfectly legitimate, and not so legitimate uses
I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a
tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g.
Zygna. So, net net a FB outage could be seen as a positive thing in
the course of a work day.
-matt
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, david raistrick
I've use the app Traceroute before which aggregates most of the major
ISP's looking glass sites and seems to be pretty good about keeping on top
of it to clean up the broken ones.
http://remarkablepixels.com/traceroute
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Mike O'Connor m...@dojo.mi.org wrote:
just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook
outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight
outage.
IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose
potential sales/revenue. when facebook goes off the
From: Mark m...@edgewire.sg
It's back up. There goes that short burst of productivity.
On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Mark Hofman wrote:
Ditto In AU and from other reports US.
Guess productivity will go up ;-)
The irony is that the short burst of productivity was spent troubleshooting
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Greg Whynott wrote:
just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook
outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight
outage.
IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose
potential
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matt Baldwin wrote:
I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a
tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g.
Perhaps, then, we should instead be discussing the business benefits of
blocking facebook so companies can
On 10/6/2010 4:33 PM, david raistrick wrote:
so the majority defines operational now, huh? wow. nice to know that
network service providers outnumber other companies these days... (of
course, those service providers also make their money from facebook
consumers)
No, the majority does
OpenDNS is my favorite for blocking things like FB and all sorts of other
productivity killers.
The information in this email and any attachments are for the sole use of the
intended recipient and may contain privileged and confidential information. If
you are not the intended recipient, any
Passes Andrew the shotgun... Please kill all FB threads with it. :)
The only thing I noticed being down last night is battle.net ;). Guess you know
where my priorities are. Lol
-Rg
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Kirch [mailto:trel...@trelane.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
--
david raistrick
-Original Message-
From: Guerra, Ruben [mailto:ruben.gue...@arrisi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:47 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Facebook down!! Alert!
Passes Andrew the shotgun... Please kill all FB threads with it. :)
The only thing I noticed being down last
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
to be clear, I
On 10/6/2010 5:05 PM, david raistrick wrote:
to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog
or not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce
outages, and outage-discuss to discuss them).
my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:39:03 EDT, Andrew Kirch said:
No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
loss at a peering point, DoS attack.
Yes, but anytime something spikes the number of calls at my
From: sc...@doc.net.au [mailto:sc...@doc.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Scam telemarketers spoofing our NOC phone number for callerid
There were some laws passed recently which makes faking caller-id illegal,
although I'm not sure exactly what the details are (eg,
On 06/10/10 17:05 -0400, david raistrick wrote:
my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content
provider, and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND
service. I have dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others
who perhaps dont yet hire folks who even know
In message aanlkti=rh=kxm6ksk1gkyfu=nh4oazw=c+66meo5h...@mail.gmail.com,
Heath Jones hj1...@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly, fine folks at Reliance Globalcom Services, Inc. could tell
us who is paying them to connect these hijacked blocks to their network,
but I rather doubt that they are
- Original Message -
From: david raistrick dr...@icantclick.org
To: Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:05:10 PM
Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert!
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch
Giant Panty Raid. Now I know what I'll be calling my weekend/overnight
shifts. Who says being a Network Engineer can't be fun?
Q
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom tammy-li...@wiztech.bizwrote:
This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent
of a
not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from
mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but
basically pathetic.
randy
1) Is spamming from within the US criminal activity?
Sadly, it appears not.
In many cases it is however actionable. (And in other cases involving
actual criminal activity, e.g. as prohibited by 18 USC 1030, `Fraud and
related activity in connection with computers', it may, I think, be
On 10/06/2010 06:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a
giant panty raid. This isn't the outages list I am rather annoyed that we
must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook. Just because you are
panicing does
-
Exactly when and where did RIR whois databases gain any legal status as
an authoritive source of information, rather than just an internal tool
for network operators? (as far as i see, the rirs are legally nothing more
than a collective of network operators, not an authority in any way).
-
We get people calling our noc numbers pretty often trying to report abuse for
other people's networks... that is always fun
John van Oppen / AS11404
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From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:16 PM
To: Matthew Huff
Cc: '
The only way in which I can see facebook as required for operations is when one
is hosting apps that must interact with the facbook API. Facebook is a site
we keep an eye on from our NOC simply because it is important to a lot our
larger transit customers due to them having apps that require
We get people calling our noc numbers pretty often trying to report
abuse for other people's networks... that is always fun
not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from
mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but
basically pathetic.
no, i mean
-Original Message-
From: Heath Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:24 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: New hijacking - Done via via good old-fashioned Identity
Theft
Wouldn't it have to be illegal before punishments could be determined?
Isn't this kind of key to the
On 7/10/10 6:28 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
On 10/6/10 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Number resources are not and should not be associated with domain
resources at the policy level. This would make absolutely no sense
whatsoever.
hmm. ... are not ... so the event complained of ...
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:14:27PM +, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
(keep in mind, each sender gets a unique password from the receiver,
this can be stored in the address book along with the email address
itself).
I'd like to see the I-D which explains how this is going to work,
with
Has anybody ever succeeded at sending any e-mail to the
ab...@relianceglobalcom.com address? It doesn't seem to
work for me. I just get undeliverable bounces.
I'd like to, you know, at least inform them about all of these hijacked
routes that _they_ are announcing, but I guess I need to do that
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