I am top-posting to show that this entire thread is retarded.
I certainly could have bottom-posted, because I don't use Outlook for
this list, but the point here is -- is this what the NANOG list has
really become? Really?
So sad.
- ferg
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Dobbins, Roland
Call me and old 'hard case' - but I prefer that when I get information via
email, that if possible, the relevant information show up immediately.
Call me lazy I guess - but I would expect that most folks on this list have
also understood good user interface design, and that the least amount of
Well yahoo's mx tend to do that a lot. i used to have a lot of bounced
emails to yahoo until i implemented dkim, domainkeys and spf then all my
yahoo problems disappeared ,
I just want to know if you have implemented any of
these technologies dkim,domainkeys and spf, other wise you would have
Hi Paul,
Your point is taken - but actually this is a bit of a conundrum, at least for
me.
Generally what I see is that younger people who grew up using email when they
were children desire to bottom post or post inline whereas folks that
originally utilized email primarily to communicate
On 12 Apr 2011, at 07:33, Michael DeMan wrote:
Call me and old 'hard case' - but I prefer that when I get information via
email, that if possible, the relevant information show up immediately.
Call me lazy I guess - but I would expect that most folks on this list have
also understood
We had a lot of issues delivering mail to yahoo.com.sg about a year ago
(just the .sg domain, plain .com was fine). Could establish connection
but it'd die halfway through transferring mail. A static route to drop
the MTU (for their subnet only) to 1000 fixed the problem right up.
Not sure if
Strangely though I noticed that the email accounts that seems to be
affected by our concern seems to be related to the Yahoo SG servers.
On 4/12/2011 3:04 PM, Christopher Balmain wrote:
We had a lot of issues delivering mail to yahoo.com.sg about a year ago
(just the .sg domain, plain .com
I really don't think anybody is concerned about how fast the email downloads
anymore.
Rather it is more of a matter of how long it takes us humans to process the
incredible volume of information we are expected to process.
I have no problem either 'top posting' or 'bottom posting' - but I
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote:
Strangely though I noticed that the email accounts that seems to be affected
by our concern seems to be related to the Yahoo SG servers.
Oh. You don't seem to want to accept connections from the
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Michael DeMan wrote:
The ultimate question on email etiquette is naturally how to properly
identify inline commentary.
It's not a problem.
Inline is done by trimming lines that are not needed and quoted text is
prefaced by a sign. So if the email you're reading doesn't
Tim Chown wrote:
Well indeed, top-posting is just so much more efficient given the volumes of
email most of us probably see each day.
Top posting works in conversations you are having with someone, usually just one person, because you are aware of what's
been said.
If one comes into a
* Justin Scott:
No such luck: They want me to PAY FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR for
which I did NOT receive service and then for the current (upcoming
year). Sorry - I don't allow myself to be ripped off like that.
Hi John, this is actually a pretty common practice for service
subscription models
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 17:26 , Owen DeLong wrote:
But can you explain better? Why should LISP require more IP space than
normal IPv4 deployment?
If you are a new site, you ask for an IP block. This is independent from
whether or not you will use LISP.
Sure, but, if you also need
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 23:53 , Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
I do tend to think that any technology sufficiently confusing that I cannot
understand it well after reasonable effort is of questionable value
for wide deployment.
The
Oh well... Just have to inform our users :(
Thanks! =)
ps. I'm just wondering why yahoo doesn't inform their users that the
email that they sent was blocked because of their servers were listed in
a blocklist (inspite that the server is able to return a correct reject
code 550)
On
Tell you the truth, you shouldnt be dropping the connection right at
the smtp banner with a 5xx - return it after RCPT TO.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote:
Oh well... Just have to inform our users :(
Thanks! =)
ps. I'm just wondering why
on 12.04.2011 08:45 Michael DeMan wrote:
Generally what I see is that younger people who grew up using email
when they were children desire to bottom post or post inline whereas
folks that originally utilized email primarily to communicate
technical information only generally prefer to
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:49:17 +0100
Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
Call me and old 'hard case' - but I prefer that when I get information
via email, that if possible, the relevant information show up
immediately.
Right. And the most relevant information is the snippet being replied
to
On 04/12/2011 02:12 AM, Jason Frisvold wrote:
On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:02 AM, harbor235 wrote:
http://www.lisp4.net/
This sounds a lot like LNP in the telco world. Is the goal here to
make IP's portable ?
One of the goals, yes.
Or is this a viable way to access IPv6 from either an IPv4
On 09/04/2011 10:37, Bryan Irvine wrote:
As do some states with automotive registration. It's a quite normal practice.
If you're in a monopoly or near-monopoly position, you can get away with
screwing over your customer base.
If you're in a competitive market, practices like support
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:17:54 +0100
gord gordsla...@ieee.org wrote:
I wasn't pedantic or impolite enough to suggest that it was off-topic
here (which, technically, it is), simply saying that it was doing my
Actually, I don't think it is off-topic. Meta-discussions about the
list are considered
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
Well indeed, top-posting is just so much more efficient given the
volumes of email most of us probably see each day.
That's true... if you're adding a trivial thought to an already concise thread.
If you're adding complex
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 07:49:17 BST, Tim Chown said:
Well indeed, top-posting is just so much more efficient given the
volumes of email most of us probably see each day.
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=129565913825601w=2
Go read that thread. 115 messages and counting. Read *all* of them.
On 12/04/11 6:47 AM, William Herrin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Tim Chownt...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
But I'm afraid times have changed; bottom-posted email is now an annoyance
to most just as a slow-loading web page would be.
Then you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to trim
On 4/11/2011 10:13 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-04-11/level-3-agrees-to-acquire-global-crossing-in-deal-valued-at-1-9-billion.html
The deal will combine two unprofitable companies with total revenue of
$6.26 billion as of last year, and cut
- Original Message -
From: Nathanael C. Cariaga nccari...@stluke.com.ph
Thanks anyway. I just find this issue intriguing since not all Yahoo
mail accounts are affected. In addition, incoming mails from other
domain doesn't seem to be affected. That is why I want to check if it
is a
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