Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Andrews
In message e230de23-ad00-4f3d-b384-ba52fa7b3...@delong.com, Owen DeLong writes: On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: =20 In message b53bef53-f327-44ed-8f23-a85042e99...@delong.com, Owen = DeLong write s: =20 On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: =20 =3D20

Re: ipv6 day quiet period please

2011-06-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Scott Weeks wrote: Based on recent conversations, I hope everyone got their feelings expressed... :-) I would like to ask politely that we stop those conversations (and the other ones we all have fun with (or plonk)) and let the IPv6 day

Re: v6 proof of life

2011-06-07 Thread Tim Chown
On 7 Jun 2011, at 04:47, Wes Hardaker wrote: On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 23:56:32 +, Paul Vixie vi...@isc.org said: PV it's been a while since i looked at the query stream still hitting PV importantly and happily, there's a great deal of IPv6 happening PV here. Which is reaffirming what

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Joly MacFie
Cisco just published a report saying that bandwidth will increase 400% by 2015, http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2182 That does mean doubling every two years as far as it goes.. j On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Jérôme Nicolle jer...@ceriz.fr wrote: 2011/6/6 Owen DeLong o...@delong.com: I think

RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
I agree, HE's peering policy makes them an attractive transit provider. However, money and strategy still come into play here. For example, ISP Z will think I need some peering and transit. But if I get HE transit then some people may not peer with me at X-exchange because they will already

Re: automated router config back up

2011-06-07 Thread Shain Singh
On 7 June 2011 10:33, Jon Heise j...@smugmug.com wrote: Aside from rancid, what methods do people have for doing automated backups and diffing of router configs ? http://code.google.com/p/notch/ and it's assortment of tools is something I've been meaning to look into. -- Shaineel Singh e:

Re: v6 proof of life

2011-06-07 Thread Denis F.
Le 07/06/2011 01:56, Paul Vixie a écrit : 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef2:f340 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef0:1de How can 2001:db8::/32 reach your machines ? Denis

Re: automated router config back up - summary

2011-06-07 Thread Phil Regnauld
Ok, so based on what's been written here, here is the list of tools mentioned so far RANCID - http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid/ Inventory (formerly ZipTie) - http://inventory.alterpoint.com/ NocProject - http://redmine.nocproject.org/projects/noc/wiki Notch - http://code.google.com/p/notch/

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread bmanning
in this context, anyone who is a BGP speaker is an ISP. /bill On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 07:34:25AM +0300, Hank Nussbacher wrote: On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, rucasbr...@hushmail.com wrote: Please define ISP. -Hank Hello, I wouldn't consider myself a network engineer, nor do I have any

Re: Cogent?

2011-06-07 Thread Chris McDonald
As in sales? Isn't that all they have? On 6/7/11, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Does cogent have a true carrier/wholesale team? Cheers Ryan Sent from my Windows Phone -- Sent from my mobile device

RE: Cogent?

2011-06-07 Thread Erik Bais
As in sales? Isn't that all they have? He probably means who understands the business. Erik

Re: v6 proof of life

2011-06-07 Thread Arturo Servin
Sometimes more than 25% of the traffic in our webserver is v6 http://lacnic.net/v6stat/hour_access_log_counter.png http://lacnic.net/v6stat/hour_access_log_counter.txt Haven't time to check the details about URLs, countries, user-agents but I am working on it. Regards, .as

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Owen DeLong
Things like happy-eyeballs diminish it even with perfect IPv6 connectivity. 100ms rtt doesn't cover the world and to make multi-homed servers (includes dual stack) work well clients will make additional connections. Is happy eyeballs actually running code ANYWHERE? Owen

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-07 Thread fredrik danerklint
Two thing about this one after have read the manual of this product. This is probably for the american market. I'm in europe. Second, nowhere in their manual is the word ipv6 or v6 found. Have a ZyXEL VSG1432 right behind me where the IPv6 works pretty good

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Owen DeLong (o...@delong.com) on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 05:37:00AM -0700: Things like happy-eyeballs diminish it even with perfect IPv6 connectivity. 100ms rtt doesn't cover the world and to make multi-homed servers (includes dual stack) work well clients will make additional

Re: v6 proof of life

2011-06-07 Thread Jima
On 06/07/2011 03:13 AM, Denis F. wrote: Le 07/06/2011 01:56, Paul Vixie a écrit : 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef2:f340 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef0:1de How can 2001:db8::/32 reach your machines ? Lack of ingress filtering on Mr. Vixie's part, and lack of egress filtering on

skype

2011-06-07 Thread Randy Bush
http://heartbeat.skype.com/ skype has been microsofted already. small number of users my ass. probably 7/8 of the users i would see at this time are not on. randy

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: in this context, anyone who is a BGP speaker is an ISP. Peering costs money. The transit bandwidth saved by peering with another network may not be sufficient to cover the cost of installing and maintaining whatever connections are

Re: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
+1, My number is not working at all even the call not switching to voice mail. Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: http://heartbeat.skype.com/ skype has been microsofted already. small number of users my ass. probably 7/8 of the

Cox outage in Alexandria, Va.

2011-06-07 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
One of my employees is reporting that Cox told her a backhoe cut a main line somewhere in the Alexandria, Virginia area earlier this morning. More than likely a fiber cut I'd imagine. Apparently it's affecting about 50,000 residential customers and has been down since 5 a.m. Anyone have more

RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Drew Weaver
-Original Message- From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:00 AM -snip- I manage a network that's primarily a hosting network. There's a similar hosting network at the other end of the building. We both have multiple gigs of transit. We don't peer

Re: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Jorge Amodio
Is not working for me since early today, first the connection went down and later the application crashed ... I refuse to switch to MSN. I'm afraid that soon my monitor will explode if microsoft acquisition of NVIDIA goes through. BTW, after yesterday announcements at WWDC I wonder if there are

Re: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Randy Bush wrote: http://heartbeat.skype.com/ skype has been microsofted already. small number of users my ass. probably 7/8 of the users i would see at this time are not on. On this topic, it has also been penetrated, by the Egyptian “Electronic Penetration

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 8a6a00c3-bd6d-4fb4-ae82-73816dfd9...@delong.com, Owen DeLong write s: Things like happy-eyeballs diminish it even with perfect IPv6 connectivity. 100ms rtt doesn't cover the world and to make multi-homed servers (includes dual stack) work well clients will make additional

RE: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
I love how this story was published AFTER MSFT purchased them ;-) -- Leigh Porter -Original Message- From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:t...@americafree.tv] Sent: 07 June 2011 15:28 To: Randy Bush Cc: NANOG Operators' Group Subject: Re: skype On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Randy

Re: Cox outage in Alexandria, Va.

2011-06-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote: One of my employees is reporting that Cox told her a backhoe cut a main line somewhere in the Alexandria, Virginia area earlier this morning. More than likely a fiber cut I'd imagine. Apparently it's affecting about 50,000 residential

Re: UN declares Internet access a human right

2011-06-07 Thread Jorge Amodio
Consider two alternatives : - Finance guns, soldier training, refugee camps, humanitarian ground help and political meetings and treaties to make a revolution happens in a (more or less controled) bloodshed OR - Take a strong position to preserve freedom of speech and wider use of the

RE: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Raymond Burkholder
I love how this story was published AFTER MSFT purchased them ;-) http://plug2play.blogspot.com/2010/12/skypes-biggest-secret-revealed.html reverse engineering hack was reported back in mid December. On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Randy Bush wrote: http://heartbeat.skype.com/

Re: Why no IPv6-only day (Was: Protocol-41 is not the only tunneling protocol)

2011-06-07 Thread Neil Harris
On 07/06/11 15:28, Mark Andrews wrote: In message8a6a00c3-bd6d-4fb4-ae82-73816dfd9...@delong.com, Owen DeLong write s: Things like happy-eyeballs diminish it even with perfect IPv6 connectivity. 100ms rtt doesn't cover the world and to make multi-homed servers (includes dual stack) work well

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Robert F Maxwell
I'd like to foster a discussion here to better understand this, not rile anyone up. That said, what I see so far is a representation of those who do not recall the halcyon days before a rabid profit motive was the driving force behind ISPs. Peering in it's original sense is/was free. It was

RE: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Leigh Porter
From: Raymond Burkholder [mailto:r...@oneunified.net] I love how this story was published AFTER MSFT purchased them ;-) http://plug2play.blogspot.com/2010/12/skypes-biggest-secret- revealed.html reverse engineering hack was reported back in mid December. Indeed, but reverse

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com So far, it seems to be working pretty well for us. I encourage others to follow our lead in this regard as it truly does make a more functional internet. I concur, and I specifically would like to see a lot more *geographically*

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: I concur, and I specifically would like to see a lot more *geographically* local peering, so packets from Roar Runner[1] Tampa Bay to FiOS Tampa Bay don't have to clog up an exchang point in Reston or Dallas; this stuff *will* eventually

RE: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Rettke, Brian
Content providers (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, YouTube) will always try to get their content serviced for little to no cost. The low cost, web-only plan isn't sustainable, and the amount of Netflix traffic around the globe is a good example; There's a lot of traffic that they aren't paying for. The

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:15:48AM -0400, Drew Weaver wrote: -Original Message- From: Jon Lewis [mailto:jle...@lewis.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:00 AM -snip- I manage a network that's primarily a hosting network. There's a similar hosting network at the other end of

Re: skype

2011-06-07 Thread Jorge Amodio
Indeed, but reverse engineered and Egyptian government snooping Skype calls are quite different. Whilst some people may have rather foolishly relied on Skype for privacy, this is now not going to happen. I doubt it'll make a big dent on the user base though. Skype privacy ? hehe, the only

Re: IPv6 Availability on XO

2011-06-07 Thread Phillip Heller
I turned up ipv6 on a 10gig in the Boston market with XO today. They'll definitely do it, but it might take a bit of pushing on an account manager. I've also turned up ipv6 with Level(3), and have noted the same incompleteness of the routing table. It will be a shame if the majority of

Re: v6 proof of life

2011-06-07 Thread Paul Vixie
Jima na...@jima.tk writes: 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef2:f340 44 2001:db8::230:48ff:fef0:1de How can 2001:db8::/32 reach your machines ? Lack of ingress filtering on Mr. Vixie's part, ... indeed. i had no idea. and lack of egress filtering on whoever-owns-those-Supermicro-board's part.

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Matthew Palmer wrote: netflow data, I'm guessing we average about 100kbit/s or less traffic in each direction between us. At that low a level, is it even worth the time and trouble to coordinate setting up a peering connection, much less tying up a gigE port at each end?

RE: Cogent?

2011-06-07 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Correct -Original Message- From: Erik Bais [mailto:eb...@a2b-internet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:46 AM To: 'Chris McDonald'; Ryan Finnesey; 'NANOG' Subject: RE: Cogent? As in sales? Isn't that all they have? He probably means who understands the business. Erik

RE: Cogent?

2011-06-07 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I have not been able to find a group within Cogent that sells services to other carriers. Been trying to get access to a lot of the fiber Cogent has running into buildings. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Chris McDonald [mailto:copraph...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread bmanning
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:52:31AM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: What I've found interesting is the cost of circuits seem to not be distance-sensitive. I think this will contribute to mega-regional peering for the foreseeable future. (ie: dc, sj, dfw, chi, nyc, etcbble devices in those

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Kenny Sallee
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Rettke, Brian brian.ret...@cableone.bizwrote: Content providers (e.g. Netflix, Hulu, YouTube) will always try to get their content serviced for little to no cost. The low cost, web-only plan isn't sustainable, and the amount of Netflix traffic around the globe

RE: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-07 Thread Frank Bulk
I'm in the US -- could very well be available only in the N.A. market. Manuals have not been updated -- it's running with pre-GA code. Frank -Original Message- From: fredrik danerklint [mailto:fredan-na...@fredan.se] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 7:45 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc:

ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Pace
I got an interesting contact from a large company that I will leave un-named for the moment. They said that they heard specific chatter about DDoS of IPv6 day participant sites and even more specifically about our website. Of course they have also offered to assist us in preventing this from

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas Donnelly
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 13:42:40 -0500, Mark Pace p...@jolokianetworks.com wrote: I got an interesting contact from a large company that I will leave un-named for the moment. They said that they heard specific chatter about DDoS of IPv6 day participant sites and even more specifically about our

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Jima
On 06/07/2011 01:42 PM, Mark Pace wrote: I got an interesting contact from a large company that I will leave un-named for the moment. It wasn't Radware, was it? http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/060611-ipv6-security.html If not, it would seem that there's no shortage of IPv6 FUD this

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:42:40AM -0700, Mark Pace wrote: I got an interesting contact from a large company that I will leave un-named for the moment. They said that they heard specific chatter about DDoS of IPv6 day participant sites and even more specifically about our

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas Donnelly
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:01:59 -0500, Jima na...@jima.tk wrote: On 06/07/2011 01:42 PM, Mark Pace wrote: I got an interesting contact from a large company that I will leave un-named for the moment. It wasn't Radware, was it? http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/060611-ipv6-security.html

RE: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
We got the same call. I think they just trolled on through the IPv6Day participants list. They indicated that we were likely to be 'specifically targeted' as a result of 'putting ourselves out there'. I suspect it's merely a misprogrammed sales drone spewing fear-infused garbage. The caller

RE: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread 1qaz 2wsx
We too just received this phone call. The company was Verisign, felt an awful lot like a protection racket. Very unwelcomed phone call. Buyer Beware. ^1qaz2wsx^

RE: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Paul Stewart
Hehe.. yeah, no thanks - I'll do it myself with our existing DDOS mitigation. ;) Paul -Original Message- From: Thomas Donnelly [mailto:tad1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:57 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat? On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 13:42:40 -0500,

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Tim Chown
On 7 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Leo Bicknell wrote: I thought the goal was to get everyone to try out IPv6. Doesn't that include the miscreants? :) Well, if I was evil I'd be looking for IPv6 back doors tomorrow... Tim

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread christian koch
I can confirm, it was indeed Verisign who emailed me with the same message. I am slightly disappointed by this course of action, needless to say I am not surprised, because this kind of behavior is expected from sales people. I had a bit more respect for them, however... -ck On Tue, Jun 7,

Re: ipv6 day DDoS threat?

2011-06-07 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:11 BST, Tim Chown said: On 7 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Leo Bicknell wrote: I thought the goal was to get everyone to try out IPv6. Doesn't that include the miscreants? :) Well, if I was evil I'd be looking for IPv6 back doors tomorrow... No, that's when everybody

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, rucasbr...@hushmail.com wrote: All the whole don't peer with this guy only makes your customers have worse latencies and paths to other people, making the Internet less healthy. Not necessarily. Peering with an

RE: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-07 Thread John.Herbert
Bill Woodcock [mailto:wo...@pch.net] spake: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2533454/ Uh... This does rather assume that users can access Google/Bing (both IPv6 day participants) to search for a solution to the problems they are experiencing, and then that they can actually access the KB

Re: automated router config back up - summary

2011-06-07 Thread Phillip Heller
There is also http://sourceforge.net/projects/dis -- The latest version in CVS is best. It's a project I wrote for use at a previous employer, which downloads tens of thousands of configs per night. It also facilitates easier development of device scripts and their parallel execution,

RE: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-07 Thread Christopher Palmer
We're very concerned about permanently configuring hosts into a non-standard state. That is one reason our World IPv6 Day fix is only a temporary modification of the Windows sorting order and isn't being pushed through Windows Update. Permanently disabling IPv6 as a solution to the IPv6

Spare part handling in the LA area

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Allard
Hi Nanog We are an ISP/ASP in New Zealand, but we have a presence in Equinix LA1. We are looking for a services company that can store spare router/mux parts in the LA area, and who can deliver with a good SLA to the Equinix LA1 site. We will eventually be looking for the same type of service

IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
www.juniper.net is on IPv6 www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others though www.level3.com works fine over v4 but shows a 404 over IPv6 www.simobil.si is temporarily unavailable over IPv6 but works fine over IPv4

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others though If you go to www.v6.facebook.com it works, but it seems they have some problem on their main site. I am seeing some issues reaching them over IPv6.

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 6/7/2011 11:38 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: Additionally, we share at least one common transit provider, so we'd be trading 1ms for 1-2ms. Obviously, if we were talking about a leased line with any MRC, the answer would be hell no. Since we're able to utilize fiber inside the building with no

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 6/7/2011 6:15 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others though If you go to www.v6.facebook.com it works, but it seems they have some problem on their main site. I am

RE: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread John.Herbert
No issues connecting to FB for me on IPv6 (both to www.v6.facebook.com and to the returned by www.facebook.com now). Interesting (perhaps) side note - www.facebook.com has a , but facebook.com does not. Google / Youtube records are up and running nicely also. J. -Original

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Jack Bates wrote: On 6/7/2011 6:15 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others though If you go to www.v6.facebook.com it works, but it seems

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: John Herbert john.herb...@usc-bt.com No issues connecting to FB for me on IPv6 (both to www.v6.facebook.com and to the returned by www.facebook.com now). Interesting (perhaps) side note - www.facebook.com has a , but facebook.com does not. And

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
2011/6/8 Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net: That's what it really boils down to. How much money can be saved versus performance. If I'm doing a lot of throughput to a specific network, it makes sense that I might want to connect to them, especially if that connection either 1) saves me money or

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 6/7/2011 6:39 PM, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: That's certainly a valid approach for direct (private) peering, it's not applicable to IXPs offering route servers. In my case, I have to justify the long haul to an IXP as appropriate cost savings, and given that haul often costs more than I pay

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jared Mauch
yahoo is already serving up the as well. Thanks Igor! Looking forward to seeing the traffic spike today :) - Jared On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: www.juniper.net is on IPv6 www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Pete Carah
On 06/07/2011 07:22 PM, john.herb...@usc-bt.com wrote: No issues connecting to FB for me on IPv6 (both to www.v6.facebook.com and to the returned by www.facebook.com now). Interesting (perhaps) side note - www.facebook.com has a , but facebook.com does not. Google / Youtube

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Pete Carah
On 06/07/2011 07:56 PM, Pete Carah wrote: On 06/07/2011 07:22 PM, john.herb...@usc-bt.com wrote: No issues connecting to FB for me on IPv6 (both to www.v6.facebook.com and to the returned by www.facebook.com now). Interesting (perhaps) side note - www.facebook.com has a , but

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread fredrik danerklint
This is from Sweden. $ dig any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ; DiG 9.7.3 any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61742 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; WARNING:

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Landon Stewart
I'll be watching this page probably. http://www.worldipv6day.org/participants/

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 8 jun 2011, at 2:02, Pete Carah wrote: www.facebook.com (but not facebook.com) just turned on here too (after google). another hex-speak spelling... I'm using my iPhone as the IPv6-only canary. www.facebook.com now seems to work, but it redirects to m.facebook.com which doesn't have IPv6.

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:19 PM, rucasbr...@hushmail.com wrote: why don't ISPs peer with every other ISP? 1. For those who can pull it off, getting paid twice for each packet is better than getting paid once. 2. Your service has a value per byte and a cost per byte. If your value is less than

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/7/2011 17:04, fredrik danerklint wrote: This is from Sweden. $ dig any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ; DiG 9.7.3 any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61742 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1,

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Randy Carpenter
I'm getting v6 for facebook now. -Randy -- | Randy Carpenter | Vice President - IT Services | Red Hat Certified Engineer | First Network Group, Inc. | (800)578-6381, Opt. 1 - Original Message - This is from Sweden. $ dig any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ; DiG 9.7.3

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 8 jun 2011, at 2:02, Pete Carah wrote: www.facebook.com (but not facebook.com) just turned on here too (after google). another hex-speak spelling... I'm using my iPhone as the IPv6-only canary. www.facebook.com now seems to

IPv6 day - Facebook announcements

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
In addition to themselves announcing this, NASA.gov and Markertek.com have announced there that they're participating with their websites; I'll reply to this posting if I see any others (and if anyone better positioned to report on their success posts, I'll pass it along). Cheers, -- jr 'yes;

Re: [v6z] Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Scott Howard
That's because you're asking the wrong nameservers. The response you're getting is pointing you to the correct nameservers (glb1/glb2.facebook.com) which are defintely returning records for me : $ dig +short www.facebook.com @glb1.facebook.com 2620:0:1c08:4000:face:b00c:0:3 Scott.

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Pete Carah
On 8 jun 2011, at 2:02, Pete Carah wrote: www.facebook.com (but not facebook.com) just turned on here too (after google). another hex-speak spelling... I'm using my iPhone as the IPv6-only canary. www.facebook.com now seems to work, but it redirects to m.facebook.com which doesn't have

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Matt Ryanczak
On 06/07/2011 08:08 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: I'm using my iPhone as the IPv6-only canary. www.facebook.com now seems to work, but it redirects to m.facebook.com which doesn't have IPv6. This seems to be a trend, yahoo and cnn do the same thing. Annoying. Indeed. Verizon LTE is v6

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 6/7/2011 7:13 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 6/7/2011 17:04, fredrik danerklint wrote: This is from Sweden. $ dig any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ; DiG 9.7.3 any www.facebook.com @ns1.facebook.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id:

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Michael Sinatra
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: www.juniper.net is on IPv6 www.facebook.com has but doesn't load for me over IPv6, it does for others though Working great for me. Getting to it via HE. www.level3.com works fine over v4 but shows a 404 over IPv6 Yes, I am seeing

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Rémy Sanchez
On 06/08/2011 02:13 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: I'm getting v6 for facebook now. www.facebook.com is v6 here, but I see no for the fbcdn.net subdomains. -- Rémy Sanchez signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

v6 transit swaps harmful

2011-06-07 Thread Jeff Wheeler
In case there are folks who missed this in the past few years, we will soon be past the point where IPv6 transit swaps and other incubation tools are acceptable to customers. How is it that Tiscali and Sprint can only get together via IIJ? Who is to blame? From my perspective, all three

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread TJ
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 20:14, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: Props to google for doing it right, e.g.: maps.googleapis.com gg.google.com safebrowsing.clients.google.com Thank you google! - Jared ... and Gmail, too ... /TJ

Re: [v6z] Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread fredrik danerklint
Sorry about this. When asked for the right thing it does resolv! $ dig www.facebook.com ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.facebook.com. IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.facebook.com. 30 IN 2620:0:1c08:4000:face:b00c:0:3 That's because you're asking

Re: [v6z] Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/7/2011 17:16, Scott Howard wrote: That's because you're asking the wrong nameservers. The response you're getting is pointing you to the correct nameservers (glb1/glb2.facebook.com) which are defintely returning records for me : $ dig +short www.facebook.com

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net Props to google for doing it right, e.g.: maps.googleapis.com gg.google.com safebrowsing.clients.google.com Thank you google! Funny you bring up getting all the subsidiary sties right. I tried to

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Matt Ryanczak ryanc...@gmail.com Indeed. Verizon LTE is v6 enabled but the user-agent on my phone denies me an IPv6 experience. I thought I'd heard that LTE transport was *IPv6 only*... Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink

Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

2011-06-07 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:10 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: [snip] gets a 200 amp electrical service. The problem with that notion is that A) consumers are hooked on unlimited, and B) your toaster Consumers aren't getting unlimited right now. They're getting (unknown number of

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Diego Veca
That is expected, the CDN is not IPv6 enabled (yet) On 6/7/11 5:24 PM, Rémy Sanchez remy.sanc...@hyperthese.net wrote: On 06/08/2011 02:13 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: I'm getting v6 for facebook now. www.facebook.com is v6 here, but I see no for the fbcdn.net subdomains. -- Rémy

RE: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
Anyone with native v6 want to help me test my content? I don't have any v6 access from anything except a few dedicated servers yet. Off list response is fine :) -Original Message- From: TJ [mailto:trej...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:32 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: IPv6 day

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 8 jun 2011, at 2:31, TJ wrote: ... and Gmail, too ... imap.gmail.com only has IPv4, though.

Broken Teredo relay AS1101?

2011-06-07 Thread Kevin Loch
This path for 2001::/32 leads to a broken teredo relay: 3257 1103 1101 http://ip6.me was using this path and not working from my client. When I routing to prefer 6939's relays it started working. - Kevin

Facebook's IPv6 Addresses - LOL

2011-06-07 Thread David Swafford
This is amusing: Tracing route to www.facebook.com [2620:0:1c00:0:*face:b00c*:0:2] over a maximum of 30 hops: 11 ms1 ms1 ms 2001:1938:2a7::1 288 ms95 ms88 ms gw-383.phx-01.us.sixxs.net[2001:1938:81:17e::1] 391 ms86 ms89 ms 2001:4de0:1000:a4::1 4

Re: IPv6 day fun is beginning!

2011-06-07 Thread TJ
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 21:04, Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.comwrote: On 8 jun 2011, at 2:31, TJ wrote: ... and Gmail, too ... imap.gmail.com only has IPv4, though. Good catch, applies to pop smtp as well. Baby steps, I guess? /TJ

Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day

2011-06-07 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Moving them to IPv6 and hoping that enough of the content providers move forward fast enough to minimize the extent of the LSN deployment required. The problem here is not content, it's access. Look at World IPv6 day. What

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