RE: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread Paseka, Tomas
Checked your MTU settings? -Original Message- From: jacob miller [mailto:mmzi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, 19 September 2011 1:49 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: SDH Fiber Problem Hi , Dont know if this is the correct forum to ask this however I have been having the following problem

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Owen DeLong
I disagree. I think that the underlying physical topology of your network is something ARIN is quite intentionally agnostic about. Owen On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:25 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: I understand that tunneling meets the letter of the ARIN policy, but I'll make the bold assumption that

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
I can ping on point to point I have BGP up and running When I try to pass traffic over the link my clients are unable to pass any meanigful traffic asn browsing is impossible. mtu? try various size pings. filters? randy

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread John Curran
On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote: However, your statement that I only welcome change funneled through ARIN-managed channels is incorrect, as I have made it quite plain on multiple occasions that the structure of the Internet number registry system itself is not

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: On 09/18/2011 08:25 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: I understand that tunneling meets the letter of the ARIN policy, but I'll make the bold assumption that wasn't the spirit of the policy when it was written. Maybe the policy needs to be amended

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread jacob miller
I have tried the pings and am able to ping through with a size of 1600 with the df-bit set without the df-bit am able to get up to 9000. The switched on bot ends hav been set to allow jumbo frames through and the system MTU size and routing MTU sizes are at 1998. The switch is a 2960 Cisco

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
All transfer requests which meet the policies get approved and updated in the registry. ARIN does turn down transfer requests which don't meet policy, and this potential is often understood and covered in proposed sale documents for IP address blocks. would you be willing to describe what

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread Alastair Johnson
On 9/19/2011 12:22 AM, jacob miller wrote: I have tried the pings and am able to ping through with a size of 1600 with the df-bit set without the df-bit am able to get up to 9000. The switched on bot ends hav been set to allow jumbo frames through and the system MTU size and routing MTU

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread jacob miller
The entire link is an STM4 that has been channelised. We are using 3xSTM1 for the EoS service. The VCG group is configured with 3xSTM1. Regards, Jacob Miller - Original Message - From: Alastair Johnson a...@sneep.net To: jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread Leigh Porter
What exactly do you mean by meaningful traffic? ICMP from port to port works, can you pass TCP? SSH between routers? Establish a TCP session over it? Are you using Juniper SRXs ? :-) -- Leigh Porter On 19 Sep 2011, at 08:24, jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com wrote: I have tried the pings and

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread jacob miller
I have triend to do a ping with the DF bit set. Maximum am able to get to is 1600. This am guessing is because of the fact I have set the mtu size on My interface to 1600. I have also enable all alarms on the node and am getting the following alarm which is registering as beign Minor. High

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread jacob miller
Did so and am able to ping through Regards, Jacob Miller - Original Message - From: Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com To: jacob miller mmzi...@yahoo.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:23 PM Subject: Re: SDH Fiber Problem Did you try

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: He pointed out that these are the kind of problems city folk probably don't have in an urban area because there is a bear shortage. And backwoods towns have rednecks with shotguns, and bubba the backhoe driver exists everywhere

Re: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread BH
Have you tried doing a tcpdump to see if that shows anything meaningful? On 19/09/2011 5:33 PM, jacob miller wrote: Did so and am able to ping through Regards, Jacob Miller - Original Message - From: Leigh Porterleigh.por...@ukbroadband.com To: jacob millermmzi...@yahoo.com Cc:

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:17:57 PDT, Cameron Byrne said: Call me optimistic but ipv6 does not have these issues... For anyone making STRATEGIC choices about ipv4 investments... beware of sharks in these waters, not just the cgn pains For many of us (especiially the ones who have ipv6

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread John Curran
On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:34 AM, Randy Bush wrote: All transfer requests which meet the policies get approved and updated in the registry. ARIN does turn down transfer requests which don't meet policy, and this potential is often understood and covered in proposed sale documents for IP address

RE: SDH Fiber Problem

2011-09-19 Thread Wallace Keith
I have been trying to create EoS however am getting the following: I can ping on point to point I have BGP up and running When I try to pass traffic over the link my clients are unable to pass any meanigful traffic asn browsing is impossible. Any assistance  and direction in terms of any

RE: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Eric J Esslinger
-Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com] On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: He pointed out that these are the kind of problems city folk probably don't have in an urban area because there is a bear shortage.

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 09/18/11 19:41, Frank Bulk wrote: I should have made myself more clear -- the policy amendment would make clear that multihoming requires only one facilities-based connection and that the other connections could be fulfilled via tunnels. This may be heresy for some. I don't think the

Re: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread PC
Works fine here. # wget -6 www.charter.com --2011-09-19 10:24:37-- http://www.charter.com/ Resolving www.charter.com... 2607:f428:3:1:80:80:80:1 Connecting to www.charter.com|2607:f428:3:1:80:80:80:1|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html]

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Frank Bulk
I've been told by someone else offline that it's fine for them, too. Last hop according to tcptraceroute6 is Qwest. Anyone else going to www.charter.com (IPv6) through Qwest? nagios:/home/fbulk# tcptraceroute6 www.charter.com traceroute to www.charter.com (2607:f428:3:1:80:80:80:1) from

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread PC
Worth a read: http://blog.level3.com/2011/08/04/the-10-most-bizarre-and-annoying-causes-of-fiber-cuts/ On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jason LeBlanc j...@packetpimp.org wrote: We have had fiber shot with what apparently was apparently a handgun in down town Miami. Interesting that is

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Nick Olsen
Takes our HE tunnel to get out. Were also Native with Cogent (Not that it gets us anything..) No dice. [root@bench ~]# wget -6 www.charter.com --2011-09-19 13:53:17-- http://www.charter.com/ Resolving www.charter.com... 2607:f428:3:1:80:80:80:1 Connecting to

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Takes our HE tunnel to get out. Were also Native with Cogent (Not that it gets us anything..) No dice. Native also no luck here (from .nl) : [root@ipv6proxy ~]# traceroute6 www.charter.com traceroute to www.charter.com (2607:f428:3:1:80:80:80:1), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets 1

RE: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread John van Oppen
We had a cow break down a door to a remote microwave site once...now we are the proud owners of a generator backed electric fence at that site...Rural physical plant issues are almost always entertaining. :) John -Original Message- From: Eric J Esslinger

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24

2011-09-19 Thread Ryan Gray
Actually just started seeing these problems again today. Is anyone else seeing this today from something other than 212.118.142.0/24? Looks like it started about two hours ago. Regards, Ryan Gray Long Lines www.longlines.com On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:18 PM, Schiller, Heather A wrote:

RE: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Schiller, Heather A
Seeing it again here too.. Has anyone contacted them? ..and for folks who are choosing to blackhole the prefix in order to supress the route, please remember not to export it! AS25019 SAUDINETSTC-AS Autonomus System Number for SaudiNet 2011-09-08 18:23:53 UTC 2011-09-19 19:16:27 UTC

Re: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Gino
Strange, a curl request works for me through one of our he.net tunnels but not the other (sorry, won't post the address space on the list). On 9/19/11 10:57 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: Takes our HE tunnel to get out. Were also Native with Cogent (Not that it gets us anything..) No dice.

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Schleeper, Brian
It looks like we have identified the issue, and we are currently working to resolve as quickly as possible. -Brian -Original Message- From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:09 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Frank Bulk
Several offlist contacts have shared working and non-working results, so it's a mixed bag. Frank -Original Message- From: Gino [mailto:g...@1337.io] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:29 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday,

RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has been down since Friday, September 16 5:12 am Central

2011-09-19 Thread Frank Bulk
Our monitoring system reported that the site now is accessible -- thanks! Frank -Original Message- From: Schleeper, Brian [mailto:brian.schlee...@chartercom.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:57 PM To: frnk...@iname.com; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: IPv6 side of www.charter.com has

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
In the off chance that no one already attempted an email to the folks nominally in charge there: person: Hejji almazroua address:SaudiNet address:P.O.Box: 295997, Riyadh 11351, Saudi Arabia. phone: +9661 218 0300 fax-no: +9661 218 0311 e-mail:

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
suliman.alz...@saudi.net.sa - bounces :( Ripe folks (if listening) perhaps you could ping the other live POC's there and request an update? :) On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: In the off chance that no one already attempted an email to the folks

RE: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Erik Bais
Hi Chris, I've send an email to the person I know within STC responsible for international transit. Let's hope he can assist. Regards, Erik Bais -Original Message- From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:58 PM To: Schiller,

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Erik Bais eb...@a2b-internet.com wrote: Hi Chris, I've send an email to the person I know within STC responsible for international transit. Let's hope he can assist. excellent! :) -Original Message- From: Christopher Morrow

Re: How to begin making my own ISP?

2011-09-19 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:42:18 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said: Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es). TaDa ... You are an ISP! Now all you need is a business plan that pays for the rack

Is yahoo seriously blocking emails with variants of the words occupywallstreet?

2011-09-19 Thread Landon Stewart
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Re: Is yahoo seriously blocking emails with variants of the words occupywallstreet?

2011-09-19 Thread Ken Stox
A quick test shows that they are not blocking, at least for me. -Ken Stox k...@stox.org

RE: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Frank Bulk wrote: I should have made myself more clear -- the policy amendment would make clear that multihoming requires only one facilities-based connection and that the other connections could be fulfilled via tunnels. This may be heresy for some. That's not

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM, John van Oppen jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote: We had a cow break down a door to a remote microwave site once...    now we are the proud owners of a generator backed electric fence at that site...     Rural physical plant issues are almost always entertaining.

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Richard Barnes
And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be cooked by the time the crew gets there! On Sep 19, 2011 9:34 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:20 AM, John van Oppen jvanop...@spectrumnet.us wrote: We had a cow br... Your

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:49, Richard Barnes richard.bar...@gmail.com wrote: And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be cooked by the time the crew gets there! Not quite. The point of the electric fence is to discourage moooving through it, but you do not want

Re: Internet mauled by bears

2011-09-19 Thread Chris Boyd
On Sep 19, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: And if they turn up the voltage on the fence high enough, dinner could be cooked by the time the crew gets there! Nah, they are high frequency and high voltage, but very low current. It's uncomfortable and may cause local burning similar to

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/19/2011 6:02 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Frank Bulk wrote: I should have made myself more clear -- the policy amendment would make clear that multihoming requires only one facilities-based connection and that the other connections could be fulfilled via tunnels. This may be

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/19/2011 6:02 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Frank Bulk wrote: I should have made myself more clear -- the policy amendment would make clear that multihoming requires only one facilities-based connection and that the other connections could be fulfilled via tunnels. This may be

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
1) One IP connection via a T-1. Second IP connection via GRE tunnel carried on first. 2) One IP connection via a T-1 that doesn't have transit, only peering with providers B and C. IP connections via two GRE tunnels to providers B and C. 3) One IP connection via MPLS over T-1. Second

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/19/2011 8:32 PM, Randy Bush wrote: you left out one connection via a chevy full of hollerith cards and the second a canoe full of 7 track tape in waterproof containers. They certainly have different loss characteristics, even if you don't get unique routing policy out of it. Matthew

Re: How to begin making my own ISP?

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/16/2011 11:14 AM, Eric Wieling wrote: I think the question was far too vague. The first thing you need to start an ISP is LOTS OF MONEY. That's if you want to make a little money running an ISP. If you want to make lots of money running an ISP, it takes *even more* money. Matthew

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/16/2011 12:58 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: I wonder what would happen if a new ARIN member requested an IPv4 block of say a /16 for a new business? Or even a smaller block. I don't know what the current ARIN rules are but RIPE will currently give out six months worth of space. Now, in six

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 9/18/2011 7:27 PM, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Frank Bulk wrote: I understand that tunneling meets the letter of the ARIN policy, but I'll make the bold assumption that wasn't the spirit of the policy when it was written. Maybe the policy needs to be amended to clarify

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com you left out one connection via a chevy full of hollerith cards and the second a canoe full of 7 track tape in waterproof containers. That's a station wagon full of magtape. Henry would be disappointed. Cheers, -- jra * See also

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Charles N Wyble
On 09/19/2011 10:40 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: On 9/16/2011 12:58 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: I wonder what would happen if a new ARIN member requested an IPv4 block of say a /16 for a new business? Or even a smaller block. I don't know what the current ARIN rules are but RIPE will currently

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:32:04 +0200, Randy Bush said: you left out one connection via a chevy full of hollerith cards and the second a canoe full of 7 track tape in waterproof containers. Does anybody actually *have* a functional 7 track drive? I remember seeing a story on PBS (may have been a

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Joel jaeggli
given that as 729 maxes out at 800cpi there are probably slightly kinky ways to attack the problem, e.g. someone doing it with disk packs. http://chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/ there's still plenty of equipment that can wrap 1/2 tape around a spindle. On 9/19/11 21:14 ,

Re: old media

2011-09-19 Thread Roy
On 9/19/2011 9:20 PM, Randy Bush wrote: Does anybody actually *have* a functional 7 track drive? if you really need one, i know what trail i would start to follow. there are folk keeping old stuff alive and pulling arcane things off old media (like the besm-6 system). randy I haven't

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24 - Redux

2011-09-19 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
I got an email response on 11th Sep when made a complaint for the same, they said, it is one of our customer's prefix. THATS IT. They didn't share any reason for rogue attributes, for them it is more likely a Juniper box their client is using. Very helpfull info though :) Regards, Aftab A.

Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network

2011-09-19 Thread Barton F Bruce
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(r) Pro* Does anybody actually *have* a functional 7 track drive? The folks restoring at least one IBM 1401 probably have several. http://ibm-1401.info/ Other than replacing a lot of older tab shop hardware, a primary