On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 10:47:22AM -0800, Scott Weeks wrote:
In our industry, especially with all the tools we have today, it would seem
that telecommuting would be more accepted, but it's not and I don't
understand
why.
People are social primates, alphas like access to nonverbal cues for
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating this one?
:)
In any litigation, Counsel always wins. I often remind myself that
there's still
Am 12/1/11 9:35 PM, schrieb David Radcliffe:
Since I like to work and code (I spend 10 hours a day on the computer at the
office, think about work related stuff in the shower, and often write Perl code
at home to deal with various household tasks) I work quite well at home.
There are more
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:25:41PM +, Thorsten Dahm wrote:
Yes, I know, they can call you, or send an Email, but nothing beats the
good old Let's go for a coffee, I'd like to ask you a question.
Some people just put up a dedicated netbook with a permanent
video/audio link (can be a
-Original Message-
From: Thorsten Dahm [mailto:t.d...@resolution.de]
Sent: 02 December 2011 12:28
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Looking for a Tier 1 ISP Mentor for career advice.
Am 12/1/11 9:35 PM, schrieb David Radcliffe:
Since I like to work and code (I spend 10 hours a day
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating this one?
It's pretty simple: you can write a contract to transfer IP
Hi John,
I'm sorry to be thick, but can you explain right of visibility to the
public portion of registrations a little further?.
Under what circumstances might ARIN deny approval?
j
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:42 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM,
Hi,
This is true that no-aggregator-id knob zeroes out the AGGREGATOR attribute.
The knob, as far as I was able to find out, dates back to gated and there's a
reason why it was introduced - it helps to avoid unnecessary updates. Assume
that an aggregate route is generated by two (or more)
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
Hi John,
I'm sorry to be thick, but can you explain right of visibility to the
public portion of registrations a little further?.
Under what circumstances might ARIN deny approval?
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer
-Original Message-
From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer policies
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight. If a
request doesn't meet the transfer policy (e.g. the sale
is not to an actual entity that has an
Am 12/1/11 9:35 PM, schrieb David Radcliffe:
Since I like to work and code (I spend 10 hours a day on the computer at the
office, think about work related stuff in the shower, and often write Perl
code
at home to deal with various household tasks) I work quite well at home.
There are
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wkumari-idr-as0-01
one of the reasons the above was written...
That does not include when ASN=0 is used in the aggregator attribute.
Could you add that?
next rev
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 03:52, Robert E. Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote:
In any litigation, Counsel always wins. I often remind myself that
there's still time to go to law school. :-)
It may be too late. The glory days of getting a JD
and then racking in the money are apparently over.
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM -0500, Michael R. Wayne
wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each, according to a bankruptcy court filing.
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:56:43PM -0500, Jeff Tantsura wrote:
Hi,
Let me take it over from now on, I'm the IP Routing/MPLS Product Manager
at Ericsson responsible for all routing protocols.
There's nothing wrong in checking ASN in AGGREGATOR, we don't really want
see ASN 0 anywhere,
On Thursday, December 01, 2011 02:56:37 AM Holmes,David A
wrote:
What I have seen lately with telco's building and
operating Metro Ethernet Forum (MEF) based Ethernet
networks is that relatively inexperienced telco staff
are in charge of configuring and operating the networks,
where telco
On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:
-Original Message-
From: rob.vercoute...@kpn.com [mailto:rob.vercoute...@kpn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:05 PM
To: matlo...@exempla.org; richard.bar...@gmail.com;
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org;
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: John Curran [mailto:jcur...@arin.net]
Joly -
Requests are processed according the transfer policies
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight. If a
request doesn't
Yup.. they're all ANY requests. The varying TTLs indicates that they're most
likely spoofed. We are also now seeing similar traffic from RFC1918 source
addresses trying to ingress our network (but being stopped by our border
filters).
Looks like the kiddies are playing
On 2 Dec 2011,
On Friday, December 02, 2011 07:25:41 AM Thorsten Dahm wrote:
Am 12/1/11 9:35 PM, schrieb David Radcliffe:
Since I like to work and code (I spend 10 hours a day on the computer at
the office, think about work related stuff in the shower, and often
write Perl code at home to deal with
On Thursday, December 01, 2011 08:19:51 AM Ray Soucy wrote:
There is a lot of talk about buggy systems that are
unable to handle prefixes longer than 64; but I've yet
to encounter one. I imagine if I did it would be
treated as a bug and fixed. So to the question of
supporting different
Other than being non-compliant, is an ANY query used by any major
software? Could someone rate limit ANY responses to mitigate this
particular issue?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Leland Vandervort
lel...@taranta.discpro.org wrote:
Yup.. they're all ANY requests. The varying TTLs indicates
On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
So I do wonder, how is this policy is being enforced and will ARIN be
investigating this current news item?
Leigh -
No investigation is needed, as I already noted the parties
have sought out ARIN in advance. Note that original sales
Once upon a time, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net said:
Other than being non-compliant, is an ANY query used by any major
software? Could someone rate limit ANY responses to mitigate this
particular issue?
I believe qmail still uses ANY lookups.
--
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
Systems and
In a message written on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:25:41PM +, Thorsten Dahm
wrote:
The downside of this is that you are not around in the office in case
someone wants to talk to you. I often end up with guys from our
operations team or other teams stopping at my desk and ask questions. Or
Since it is spoofed traffic we block the source, so not participating in
flooding the real ip address.
The real issue is verify unicast reverse path not being implemented. So that
the ip addresses cannot be spoofed!
(unless we are dealing with some major unknown vurlnerabilities in our
Am 12/2/11 1:16 PM, schrieb Joe Greco:
Thorsten Dahm:
The downside of this is that you are not around in the office in case
someone wants to talk to you. I often end up with guys from our
operations team or other teams stopping at my desk and ask questions. Or
guys who want to have a quick chat
On Dec 1, 2011, at 23:04, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each, according to a bankruptcy court filing.
Clearly the addresses
I have acres on the moon that are up for sale.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Christopher J. Pilkington c...@0x1.net wrote:
On Dec 1, 2011, at 23:04, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet
On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
ARIN, on many occasions, has stated that they have no authority over
legacy address space. They made this declaration in the Kamens/sex.com
case. I haven't heard that anything has changed since then.
Martin -
ARIN will maintain the
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On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM -0500, Michael R. Wayne
wrote:
After negotiating with multiple prospective buyers, Cerner Corp.
agreed to buy the Internet addresses for $12 each. Other bids were
as low as $1.50 each,
-Original Message-
From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:strei...@cluebyfour.org]
Sent: 02 December 2011 19:26
To: Leo Bicknell
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: IP addresses are now assets
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:04:23PM
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal, but the treatment of ip addresses by the bankruptcy court would
tend to agree with the definition of an asset from webster's new world
law
--- jsah...@gmail.com wrote:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
---
Because they're busy getting ipv6 up and that will make these things less
important? ;-)
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:37:29 -0500, joshua sahala jsah...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any property or right that is owned by a person or entity and has
monetary value. See also liability.
If it was a RIR assignment, it's not owned. It's more akin to a
lease. That said, there are documented
I have a boatload of IPv6 addresses I'm willing to sell at the low, low price
of $.01 each.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Pilkington [mailto:c...@0x1.net]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:18 PM
To: Michael R. Wayne
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: IP addresses are now assets
On Dec
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Dec 2 13:29:31
2011
From: Leigh Porter leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com
To: Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org,
Leo Bicknell
bickn...@ufp.org
Subject: RE: IP addresses are now assets
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:29:43
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal, but the treatment of ip addresses by the bankruptcy court would
tend to
John Lightfoot jlightf...@gmail.com wrote;
I have a boatload of IPv6 addresses I'm willing to sell at the low, low price
of $.01 each.
Good for you. _I_ have somewhat over 17.8 million IPv4 addresses, in 3 large
blocks, for which I will sell my 'right to use', at half your offering price.
--- da...@davidradcliffe.org wrote:
From: David Radcliffe da...@davidradcliffe.org
Actually, the best reason I have for working from home is I work much better
when naked and they have asked me to stop showing up that way at the office.
Woah,
On 2 December 2011 20:01, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:[cut]
Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
[cut]
ianal, but the
Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote on 12/02/2011 03:14:58 PM:
What about land? it's a public resource that you've paid money to
someone in exchange for transferring their rights over that public
resource to you.
Land is private property.
Joe
--- bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org
If you have telecommuters _everyone_ in the office should be forced
to work from home at least 2 weeks a year, including the manager.
It's only from that experience you learn to deal with your telecommuting
co-workers in a way that
Apologies for the rapid-shot email. It's Friday... :-)
--- bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:35:27PM -0500, David Radcliffe wrote:
The reason it is not more accepted is too many people still think If I
cannot
see you you
Am 12/2/11 1:16 PM, schrieb Joe Greco:
Thorsten Dahm:
The downside of this is that you are not around in the office in case
someone wants to talk to you. I often end up with guys from our
operations team or other teams stopping at my desk and ask questions. Or
guys who want to have a
In a message written on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 03:28:22PM -0500, Joe Loiacono
wrote:
Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote on 12/02/2011 03:14:58 PM:
What about land? it's a public resource that you've paid money to
someone in exchange for transferring their rights over that public
resource to
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Alexandre Snarskii s...@snar.spb.ru wrote:
This draft says that
...note it's a DRAFT, not a STANDARD...
If a BGP speaker receives a route which has an AS number of zero in the
AS_PATH (or AS4_PATH) attribute, it SHOULD be logged and treated as a
WITHDRAW.
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 12:37:29PM -0700, joshua sahala wrote:
Any property or right that is owned by a person or entity and has
monetary value. See also liability.
All of the property of a person or entity or its total value;
entries on a balance sheet listing such property.
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On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:37 PM, joshua sahala wrote:
intangible asset
An asset that is not a physical thing and only evidenced by a
written document.
the addresses are being exchanged for money, in order to pay a
debt...how is this not a sale of an asset?
Joshua -
Rights to
BGP Update Report
Interval: 24-Nov-11 -to- 01-Dec-11 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072
TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name
1 - AS42116 155829 8.6%2554.6 -- ERTH-NCHLN-AS CJSC ER-Telecom
Holding
2 - AS17974
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 2 21:12:17 2011 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History
Date
Hi Alexandre,
You are right, the behavior is exactly as per RFC4271 section 6:
When any of the conditions described here are detected, a
NOTIFICATION message, with the indicated Error Code, Error Subcode, and Data
fields, is sent, and the BGP connection is closed.
So because ASN 0 in AGGREGATOR
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:37:29 MST, joshua sahala said:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
I'm sure at least some of those factions pretend it doesn't because admitting
it does would be a game changer.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:56 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:37:29 MST, joshua sahala said:
the speculative market exists and is growing, why do certain factions
of the community keep trying to pretend that it doesn't?
I'm sure at least some of those factions pretend
Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:
Apologies for the rapid-shot email. It's Friday... :-)
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:35:27PM -0500, David Radcliffe wrote:
The reason it is not more accepted is too many people still think If I
cannot see
looking for 100 mbps access to a new office in Ogden, UT but don't
know who the decent players are who already have fiber locally so
we can avoid huge build out costs. Suggestions off list would be
appreciated!
- Eric :)
Xmission if they service there.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Eric Gauthier e...@roxanne.org wrote:
looking for 100 mbps access to a new office in Ogden, UT but don't
know who the decent players are who already have fiber locally so
we can avoid huge build out costs.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Michael R. Wayne wa...@staff.msen.com wrote:
From
http://www.detnews.com/article/20111201/BIZ/112010483/1361/Borders-selling-Internet-addresses-for-$786-000
Borders selling Internet addresses for $786,000
Your IP address is an asset like the office you rent
- Original Message -
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:48 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Would it be correct to summarize the ARIN position as It's murkier than
Cerner
makes it out to be, and some lawyers are gonna get stinking filthy rich
litigating
Been lurking for a while and posed a question to a few folks without much
response, figured someone here might've done something like this already.
So, before I go about building wheels that already exist:
I'm interested in doing a bit of a passive survey of bandwidth usage on
my network
Surely this is what Netflow is for.
no need to re-invent the wheel.
Andrew
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Jonathan Towne jto...@slic.com wrote:
Been lurking for a while and posed a question to a few folks without much
response, figured someone here might've done something like this
Wow.. not sure how I missed that option. Exactly why I posted before dumping
a bunch of time into a bottomless bucket!
Thanks.. :)
-- Jonathan Towne
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 12:56:34AM +, Andrew Mulholland scribbled:
# Surely this is what Netflow is for.
#
#
# no need to re-invent the
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 05:55:23PM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote:
Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:
Apologies for the rapid-shot email. It's Friday... :-)
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 04:35:27PM -0500, David Radcliffe wrote:
The reason it
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position is if we wanted Curran to have a sense of
humor,
we'd have issued him one.
Changes in this area may be proposed via the ARIN Consultation and
Suggestion Process -
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 03:33:55AM +, John Curran wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position is if we wanted Curran to have a sense of
humor,
we'd have issued him one.
Changes in this area may be proposed via the ARIN Consultation and
Ah... *this* is the Whacky Weekend thread.
--
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 03:33:55AM +, John Curran wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
No, Valdis, the ARIN position
On 11/30/11 11:35 AM, Mike Jones wrote:
On 30 November 2011 17:45, Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote:
The outage was caused by an engineer turning off the wrong router, it
has been turned back on and service restored
The outage appears to have been caused by a bug in the routers
firmware, we
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