Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sure. But it is common courtesy to ask an abuse desk first, rather than, say, flood their ticketing system with automated alerts. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > > I think the implied point here is that this can be a LOT of mail and > that obtaining the recipient's cons

Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-19 Thread Owen DeLong
Different operators will have different preferences in different environments. Ideally, the IETF should provide complete solutions based on DHCPv6 and on RA and let the operators decide what they want to use in their environments. Owen On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Ravi Duggal wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Laager
On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 12:39 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > > I'm not sure why it's necessary to have all these individual > > "feedback loop" processes anyway. Why can't everyone just send spam > > reports to the Abuse handles on th

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Laager
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 22:58 -0800, Mike Hale wrote: > "I'm not sure why it's necessary to have all these individual > "feedback loop" processes anyway. Why can't everyone just send spam > reports to the Abuse handles on the relevant WHOIS record?" > Because that only works for organizations who ac

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > I'm not sure why it's necessary to have all these individual > "feedback loop" processes anyway. Why can't everyone just send spam > reports to the Abuse handles on the relevant WHOIS record? Feedback loops are sent in machine parseable fo

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Mike Hale
"I'm not sure why it's necessary to have all these individual "feedback loop" processes anyway. Why can't everyone just send spam reports to the Abuse handles on the relevant WHOIS record?" Because that only works for organizations who actually do the right thing when they get complaints. That's a

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Laager
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 20:41 -0800, Michael J Wise wrote: > On Dec 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > > > I'm trying to sign up for Microsoft's Junk Mail Reporting Program. > > Multiple representatives keep sending me more-or-less form responses > > saying they can't add my dynamic … >

IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-19 Thread Ravi Duggal
Hi, IPv6 devices (routers and hosts) can obtain configuration information about default routers, on-link prefixes and addresses from Router Advertisements as defined in Neighbor Discovery. I have been told that in some deployments, there is a strong desire not to use Router Advertisements at al

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Michael J Wise
On Dec 19, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > I'm trying to sign up for Microsoft's Junk Mail Reporting Program. > Multiple representatives keep sending me more-or-less form responses > saying they can't add my dynamic … Stop right there. Are the IP addresses you are sending mail from Dyn

Re: Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/19/11 6:10 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > I'm trying to sign up for Microsoft's Junk Mail Reporting Program. > Multiple representatives keep sending me more-or-less form > responses saying they can't add my dynamic customer IP ranges > because they're "included in...[a] third party block list".

Microsoft JMRP (Mail) Admin Needed

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Laager
I'm trying to sign up for Microsoft's Junk Mail Reporting Program. Multiple representatives keep sending me more-or-less form responses saying they can't add my dynamic customer IP ranges because they're "included in...[a] third party block list". The list in question is the SpamHaus PBL. They cle

Re: Steve Jobs has died

2011-12-19 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Lamar Owen wrote: On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 04:00:44 PM Douglas Otis wrote: products are able to provide good returns. In this view, the analogy holds when price alone is not considered. And, like Edison, Mr. Jobs fiercely championed his own technologies over all others; just one example