Re: Europe-to-US congestion and packet loss on he.net network, and their NOC@ won't even respond

2013-12-04 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
For anyone's following the story: the weeks-long congestion on he.net remains, however, hetzner has switched my original route to an alternative uplink. I'm no longer experiencing the he.net evening jitter that would bring my avg rtt from the non-congested 114ms to an average of 140ms and

blogs.cisco.com not available via IPv6

2013-12-04 Thread Henri Wahl
Hi, can anybody from Cisco confirm that blogs.cisco.com (2001:4800:13c1:10::178) is not available via IPv6? Regards -- Henri Wahl IT Department Leibniz-Institut fuer Festkoerper- u. Werkstoffforschung Dresden tel: (03 51) 46 59 - 797 email: h.w...@ifw-dresden.de http://www.ifw-dresden.de

Re: blogs.cisco.com not available via IPv6

2013-12-04 Thread Jared Mauch
I'm seeing it down via IPv6: * Trying 2600:1407:9:295::90... * Connected to www.cisco.com (2600:1407:9:295::90) port 80 (#0) GET / HTTP/1.1 User-Agent: curl/7.30.0 Host: www.cisco.com Accept: */* HTTP/1.1 200 OK * Server Apache is not blacklisted * About to connect() to blogs.cisco.com

Cisco ScanSafe, aka Cisco Cloud Web Security

2013-12-04 Thread Herro91
Hi, I'm doing some research on the Cisco Cloud Web Security offering, also known as ScanSafe. Has anyone on the lists explored Cisco's ScanSafe SaaS offering, now called Cisco Cloud Web Security - as a means of providing protection in the cloud that would potentially negate the requirement to

Re: bgp traceroute tool?

2013-12-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 01:19:14 +0100, Rene Wilhelm said: (Getting caught up after a few weeks elsewhere) Reporting in the same format as the IRR, riswhois is plugin compatible with whois.radb.net. If your linux traceroutederives from http://traceroute.sourceforge.net/ all it takes to switch to

Re: Cisco ScanSafe, aka Cisco Cloud Web Security

2013-12-04 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Herro91 herr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm doing some research on the Cisco Cloud Web Security offering, also known as ScanSafe. Has anyone on the lists explored Cisco's ScanSafe SaaS offering, now called Cisco Cloud Web Security - as a means of providing

Re: Anyone competent within ATT Uverse?

2013-12-04 Thread John Kreno
One wonders if this is an industry trend. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Thomas grave...@swbell.net wrote: You need to talk to Alcatel Tac team. They will be able to help you. Prem tech don't have the knowledge or resources. Tier one is useless and can only do basic diagnostics., tier

Re: Anyone competent within ATT Uverse?

2013-12-04 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:57 PM, John Kreno john.kr...@gmail.com wrote: One wonders if this is an industry trend. Outsourcing the outsourcers to other outsourcers... and at the end of the day everyone is congratulating everyone that the SLAs have been met :))

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Rob Seastrom
Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com writes: Rob Seastrom wrote: Ricky Beam jfbeam at gmail.comhttp://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog writes: * On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:39:59 -0500, Rob Seastrom rs at seastrom.com http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog wrote: *

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Nikolay Shopik
On 04.12.2013 4:14, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 529d9492.8020...@inblock.ru, Nikolay Shopik writes: On 03/12/13 02:54, Owen DeLong wrote: I have talked to my bean counters. We give out /48s to anyone who wants them and we don't charge for IPv6 add ress space. There is some ISP who

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com writes: Rob Seastrom wrote: Ricky Beam jfbeam at gmail.comhttp://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog writes: * On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:39:59 -0500, Rob Seastrom rs at

Re: Cisco ScanSafe, aka Cisco Cloud Web Security

2013-12-04 Thread Justin M. Streiner
First of all, why are you allowing or disallowing split tunnel networks ? There is always the risk that he/she may get infected with some malware that your antivirus does not recognize and it spreads through the internet network when the user VPNs to the corporate network. From what I've seen,

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Rob Seastrom r...@seastrom.com wrote: Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com writes: Rob Seastrom wrote: Ricky Beam jfbeam at gmail.com http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog writes: * On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:39:59 -0500, Rob Seastrom

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Not necessarily transit - leaf ASN ISP networks (which do IP transit for consumers, but do not have BGP customers) would also be counted in. They do still exist, right? Brian On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Rob

RE: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Tony Hain
Brian Dickson wrote: And root of the problem was brought into existence by the insistence that every network (LAN) must be a /64. Get your history straight. The /64 was an outcome of operators deciding there was not enough room for hierarchy in the original proposal for the IPv6 address as 64

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Not necessarily transit - leaf ASN ISP networks (which do IP transit for consumers, but do not have BGP customers) would also be counted in. They do still exist, right? that's still a transit as, right? I think

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:32 , Nikolay Shopik sho...@inblock.ru wrote: On 04.12.2013 4:14, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 529d9492.8020...@inblock.ru, Nikolay Shopik writes: On 03/12/13 02:54, Owen DeLong wrote: I have talked to my bean counters. We give out /48s to anyone who wants them and

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Tony Hain alh-i...@tndh.net wrote: Brian Dickson wrote: And root of the problem was brought into existence by the insistence that every network (LAN) must be a /64. [snip] about how many bits to add for hosts on the lan. The fact it came out to 64 The

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:21 , Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Seastrom wrote: Ricky Beam jfbeam at gmail.comhttp://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog writes: * On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 08:39:59 -0500, Rob Seastrom rs at seastrom.com

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: IF deployed by operators correctly, the global routing table should be 1 IPv6 route per ASN. However, that is only feasible if each ASN can efficiently aggregate forever (or 50 years at least). and if your

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: significantly worse policies than wireline providers. Wireless bandwidth is rapidly approaching parity with wired bandwidth pricing at consumer levels. Have you seen the cost of an LTE base station including install and monthly fees? If you did, you

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:21 , Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Second of all, what would make much more sense in your scenario is to aggregate at one or two of those levels. I'd expect probably the POP and

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Except that we have a hard limit of 1M total, which after a few 100K from where does the 1M come from?

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:43 , Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Dec 4, 2013, at 10:21 , Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Second of all, what would make much more sense in your

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:35 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: significantly worse policies than wireline providers. Wireless bandwidth is rapidly approaching parity with wired bandwidth pricing at consumer levels. Have you seen the cost of

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Brian Dickson
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Except that we have a hard limit of 1M total, which after a few 100K from where does the 1M come from? FIB table sizes,

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/4/13, 12:58 PM, Brian Dickson wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Except that we have a hard limit of 1M total, which after a few 100K from where

Re: Naive IPv6 (was ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Except that we have a hard limit of 1M

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: Nope... I look at the consumer side pricing and the fact that cellular providers by and large are NOT losing money. I assume that means that the rest of the math behind the scenes must work somehow. Cost != price. Also, wireless providers are not

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Mark Andrews
In message cec4c38b.3a8eb%...@asgard.org, Lee Howard writes: On 12/3/13 7:14 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message 529d9492.8020...@inblock.ru, Nikolay Shopik writes: On 03/12/13 02:54, Owen DeLong wrote: I have talked to my bean counters. We give out /48s to anyone who

Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Warren Bailey
All, I realize this is not exactly relevant to the usual topics on NANOG, but I thought this list was a decent place to ask a question related to cellular data usage limits. Have any of you experienced or been subjected to a domestic data roaming policy? I am a customer of a carrier who

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
Have any of you experienced or been subjected to a domestic data roaming policy? I am a customer of a carrier who advertises Unlimited Nationwide 4G data, but limits their customers to 50MB per month while traveling in an area they do not have coverage (Alaska, for example). I've never heard

RE: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Jack Vizelter
In my experience, nationwide, typically just means the continental 48 states, for the most part. From: Jay Ashworth [j...@baylink.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:20 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Question related to Cellular Data and

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Ryan Wilkins
Since we're on the subject of T-Mobile USA, who was kind enough to send me a notification via SMS that my 10 megabytes of roaming data allotment was all used up yesterday while driving a long stretch of I-77 between somewhere in mid-Ohio all the way to somewhere about Wytheville, VA, I'm

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Jared Mauch
Traveling, I usually see better data performance natively on a network vs roaming. In outlying areas, such as Maine, Alaska, Hawaii, you're better off using a local telco. More likely to have better coverage. - Jared On Dec 4, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Jack Vizelter j...@mail.rockefeller.edu wrote:

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Henry Yen
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 22:18:12PM +, Joshua Goldbard wrote: ... When you send your data over a partners network it raises your wireless company's cost of delivering service, in some cases so much so that you become unprofitable. Some folks over at Ting(.com) suggest that the cost for

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Owen DeLong
On Dec 4, 2013, at 13:43 , Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: Nope... I look at the consumer side pricing and the fact that cellular providers by and large are NOT losing money. I assume that means that the rest of the math behind the scenes

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net In outlying areas, such as Maine, Alaska, Hawaii, you're better off using a local telco. More likely to have better coverage. Not in Hawaii. Hawaiian Telcom used to (still do?)

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Joshua Goldbard
Ting is an MVNO (just like my company 2600hz) and while it would violate the terms of my NDA to confirm the 10x number I can say that we found it to be prohibitively expensive. One should be aware that, just like in the IP transit world, the small players have different rules than the big

RE: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Frank Bulk
For example, the regional wireless carrier my $DAYJOB has partnered with has rate-limiting in place with its two major roaming partners, to help control roaming costs. And when it uses the word unlimited in its marketing materials it means you can access data anywhere where there is access, not

Comcast DNS Issue?

2013-12-04 Thread Childs, Aaron
Good Afternoon, If there is a Comcast DNS Engineer on the list could you contact me off-list? We are experiencing an odd issue with 75.75.75.75. Thanks, Aaron [Description: Description: Description: logo-email] Aaron Childs, CCNA Associate Director, Networking Information Technology

RE: Anyone competent within ATT Uverse?

2013-12-04 Thread SMITH, STEVEN B
Phil if you can send me your full name, address, billing telephone number, contact number, U-Verse BAN if you know it, and what is wrong and for how long, I can escalate this to get immediate attention. Steve -Original Message- From: Phil Karn [mailto:k...@philkarn.net] Sent:

RE: blogs.cisco.com not available via IPv6

2013-12-04 Thread Frank Bulk
My Cisco IPv6 contacts confirmed that they were made aware of this 12 hours ago and it's being worked on. Frank -Original Message- From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:23 AM To: Henri Wahl Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: blogs.cisco.com not

Re: ATT UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-12-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote: Depends on your carrier. From ATT, I have $29 unlimited and I have definitely cranked down more over that (faster) LTE connection in some months than through my $100+ cable connection. From VZW, I'm paying $100+/month and only getting 10GB over LTE, but

Re: Question related to Cellular Data and restrictions..

2013-12-04 Thread Warren Bailey
Blanket reply.. :) So at what point does unlimited mean unlimited? Roaming agreements have always been two sided. In my case.. I roam on to ATT's network, the same as ATT folk roam into tmo when they do not have coverage. At the end of the month the two are reconciled and someone gets paid. If